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[r] possible baiting/trolling

Postby Kaumudeen » Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:17 pm

Not sure why but La Xinga continously refers to me by this term "Yishame'ili" my understanding is it is a term used for Arabs, I think La Xinga is using it derogatorily since I am not an Arab and they use it repeatedly in various threads in reference to me.

La Xinga wrote:
Kaumudeen wrote:Talmudic Judaism is very different from Biblical Judaism.

It's not everyday some Yeshma'eli pretends to be a Talmudic scholar.


La Xinga wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:I'm dead

Fairly certain he is a Yishma'eli!


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Kaumudeen wrote:Clearly you don't want peace.
No need to give back what is yours in the name of the possibility of peace.
No wonder Israel is so reviled across the civilized world.
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If you want more land just annex Kiryas Joel.
lol this yishma'eli keeps on being obsessed with chossidland literally no shaichus dude
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:19 pm

Yishma'eli just means Arab. If you consider the word "Arab" in Hebrew as trolling, then I'm not quite sure what to tell you.
Edit: Oh, you aren't Arab? I was not aware of that; it would help if you would relay that to me previously. :roll:
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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:22 pm

La Xinga wrote:Yishma'eli just means Arab. If you consider the word "Arab" in Hebrew as trolling, then I'm not quite sure what to tell you.

Others may interpret this word to refer to the descendants of Ishmael. Such folks are considered by many to mean the Arabs. In Scripture, both are blessed by God but there will always be enmity from them and they are related.

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Postby Kaumudeen » Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:23 pm

La Xinga wrote:Yishma'eli just means Arab. If you consider the word "Arab" in Hebrew as trolling, then I'm not quite sure what to tell you.
Edit: Oh, you aren't Arab? I was not aware of that; it would help if you would relay that to me previously. :roll:


Or you could just not jump to conclusions :)
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:29 pm

Kaumudeen wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Yishma'eli just means Arab. If you consider the word "Arab" in Hebrew as trolling, then I'm not quite sure what to tell you.
Edit: Oh, you aren't Arab? I was not aware of that; it would help if you would relay that to me previously. :roll:


Or you could just not jump to conclusions :)

Perhaps so! But alas, it's not relevant to Moderation; my posts were made with light language without intent to flame nor bait.

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Postby Kaumudeen » Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:30 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Kaumudeen wrote:
Or you could just not jump to conclusions :)

Perhaps so! But alas, it's not relevant to Moderation; my posts were made with light language without intent to flame nor bait.


So why didn't you just call me an Arab?
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Postby Isla Byron » Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:31 pm

La Xinga wrote:Yishma'eli just means Arab. If you consider the word "Arab" in Hebrew as trolling, then I'm not quite sure what to tell you.

i don't know, not an expert regarding linguistic (nor am i a mod ofc) but it seems like your use of the word is rather derogatory* (at least in these quotes.)
La Xinga wrote:
Kaumudeen wrote:Talmudic Judaism is very different from Biblical Judaism.

It's not everyday some Yeshma'eli pretends to be a Talmudic scholar.

La Xinga wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:I'm dead

Fairly certain he is a Yishma'eli!

La Xinga wrote:
If you want more land just annex Kiryas Joel.
lol this yishma'eli keeps on being obsessed with chossidland literally no shaichus dude


*derogatory, but maybe not inherently racist? the same way you can use pole to refer to a polish person but if you say 'this damn pole' than that does come off as standoffish at best or potentially racist at worst.

i think it would be funny to do a little word switching here, replace yishma'eli with jew, and the jewish references to be perhaps something different.

"it's not everyday some jew pretends to be a biblical scholar."

"fairly certain he is a jew!" (this isn't that bad.)

"lol this jew keeps on being obsessed with tel aviv literally he literally knows nothing about this."

am i wrong to say these sound really bad? i say most of these as a jew too, i just think NS should be a place of, you know, reasonable discussion, within reason you might say?
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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:39 pm

I am Jewish and I hope that I am offering new information but I have never thought of being a descendant of Ishmael as derogatory. If this is not new information, then I apologize for spamming.

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Postby La Xinga » Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:41 pm

Kaumudeen wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Perhaps so! But alas, it's not relevant to Moderation; my posts were made with light language without intent to flame nor bait.


So why didn't you just call me an Arab?

The only time I used the term was in regards to posts of yours expressing your limited knowledge of various things pertaining to Jews/Judaism, and used the term to highlight that, while I specifically used the Jewish variant to highlight that I had the opposite.
An Anglicized form of the term would be "Ishmaelite", something obviously not derogatory unless you despised the ethnic group I believed you were in.

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Postby Kaumudeen » Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:44 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Kaumudeen wrote:
So why didn't you just call me an Arab?

The only time I used the term was in regards to posts of yours expressing your limited knowledge of various things pertaining to Jews/Judaism, and used the term to highlight that, while I specifically used the Jewish variant to highlight that I had the opposite.
An Anglicized form of the term would be "Ishmaelite", something obviously not derogatory unless you despised the ethnic group I believed you were in.


It's odd why you would refer to me as a Ishmaelite in the first place, why not just refer to me by my username, or 'this guy?' The context in which you used it in can be construed as being derogatory.
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:47 pm

Kaumudeen wrote:
La Xinga wrote:The only time I used the term was in regards to posts of yours expressing your limited knowledge of various things pertaining to Jews/Judaism, and used the term to highlight that, while I specifically used the Jewish variant to highlight that I had the opposite.
An Anglicized form of the term would be "Ishmaelite", something obviously not derogatory unless you despised the ethnic group I believed you were in.


It's odd why you would refer to me as a Ishmaelite in the first place, why not just refer to me by my username, or 'this guy?' The context in which you used it in can be construed as being derogatory.

Because "this guy" wouldn't achieve the purpose I outlined in the post you quoted, unless Jews do not fall into the category of "guys".
Neither would "Kaumudeen" highlight your distinct lack of Jewishness. :(
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Postby Kaumudeen » Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:48 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Kaumudeen wrote:
It's odd why you would refer to me as a Ishmaelite in the first place, why not just refer to me by my username, or 'this guy?' The context in which you used it in can be construed as being derogatory.

Because "this guy" wouldn't achieve the purpose I outlined in the post you quoted, unless Jews do not fall into the category of "guys".


And what purpose was that? Being intentionally provocative?
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:52 pm

Kaumudeen wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Because "this guy" wouldn't achieve the purpose I outlined in the post you quoted, unless Jews do not fall into the category of "guys".


And what purpose was that? Being intentionally provocative?

...To provide evidence for the original post's intent, duh.
At maximum, my post was slightly snarky, which our moderators have permitted.

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Postby United Calanworie » Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:24 am

After the play, unsportsmanlike conduct, fifteen yard penalty, automatic first down.

Er, whoops, this isn't college football. I meant La Xinga is *** warned for flamebait *** for his comments as reported.

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Postby La Xinga » Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:32 pm

United Calanworie wrote:After the play, unsportsmanlike conduct, fifteen yard penalty, automatic first down.

Er, whoops, this isn't college football. I meant La Xinga is warned for flamebait for his comments as reported.

Though I'd prefer an explanation, thanks for the ruling regardless! *leaves chocolate tiramisu.*


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