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[DEFEATED] Declaration On Diplomacy.

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Bhang Bhang Duc
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[DEFEATED] Declaration On Diplomacy.

Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:00 am

Not mine, obviously. This has reached quorum.

Declaration On Diplomacy

A resolution to express a position on international affairs and obligations.

Category: Declaration

Type: Declare

Proposed by: The Hill Republic

The Security Council,

Recognizing the importance of addressing international challenges that affect the stability, peace, and prosperity of the NationStates community, including conflict resolution, collective security, and upholding human rights,

Acknowledging ongoing tensions and conflicts that have arisen in various regions, which threaten international security and the well-being of affected nations,

Expressing Concern over the rise of unilateral actions that undermine diplomatic efforts, regional stability, and international obligations, thereby threatening the principles upheld by the Security Council,

Emphasizing the need for a coordinated and multilateral approach to resolve disputes, uphold peace agreements, and foster dialogue among conflicting parties in order to achieve lasting peace and cooperation,

Declaring that all regions have a responsibility to adhere to international obligations and support global stability, including by refraining from aggressive actions, respecting regional sovereignty, and actively participating in diplomatic resolutions,

Affirming that regions and nations have the obligation to protect sapient rights, ensure fair treatment of all nations, and work towards a peaceful resolution of conflicts in accordance with international norms and Security Council guidelines,

Hereby Resolves that regions be encouraged to:

a. Prioritize diplomatic efforts in addressing conflicts, actively seeking peaceful resolutions through negotiation, mediation, and dialogue.

b. Support initiatives that promote de-escalation of tensions, including providing mediators, observers, and other resources necessary for conflict resolution.

c. Engage in multilateral forums and cooperative agreements that uphold international security, mutual respect, and peaceful coexistence.

d. Sanction regions found to be engaging in unprovoked aggressive actions or violating the sovereignty of other regions.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:06 am

I checked this for AI generation on a number of different detectors. They came back with a range of results: 85 - 100% AI generated.

Also not drafted on the forums, so against.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Sarawak Darulhana » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:59 am

"I’m not denying that with AI advancements, life gets easier in all sorts of ways. But here in this forum, we should be using our own logic and knowledge 100%, not depending on AI to do the thinking. Back in Form 5 in Secondary School, I had stacks of thick books for writing history essays and relied on resources like Wikipedia and Britannica. I didn’t need AI back then...it wasn’t even around yet! But even so, my history essays scored high because they were based on our own understanding, not AI’s."


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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:17 am

Another proposal full of useless fluff.
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Postby Xoriet » Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:58 am

Imagine being unable to write your own proposal so you have AI generate it for you. Too bad AI generated isn't grounds for removing it from vote/quorum.

Definitely against.
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Postby The Kharkivan Cossacks » Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:31 am

Criminally bad. Against.
Go write your own.
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Postby Adkissa » Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:55 am

The fact this made quorum without a thread is insane.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:20 am

Adkissa wrote:The fact this made quorum without a thread is insane.

Something something telegram campaigns something something rubber stamper delegates.
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Postby Elgomeria » Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:34 am

What with all these low effort resolutions. Against
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Postby Raiding puPpeT » Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:50 am

using AI to write a SC proposal is not sigma. against
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Postby Orifna » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:27 am

A shadowy delegate walks in.

“This shit sucks.”

The delegate leaves.


AGAINST

OOC;
Genuinely how the hell did this get into Quorum? This is the most obvious AI generated stuff EVER and it still got in. Are we going downhill?
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Postby Tricorniolis » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:43 am

Unbelievable
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Postby Xoriet » Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:02 pm

Orifna wrote:OOC;
Genuinely how the hell did this get into Quorum? This is the most obvious AI generated stuff EVER and it still got in. Are we going downhill?

Rubber stamp delegate approvals for a sufficient length of time and nobody ran a countercampaign pointing out the obvious lack of merit and falsity of the proposal.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:15 pm

Opposed due to Section d. Raiding is a part of the game and should not be precluded by force. I opposed this line of argument when it appeared in Liberate The Embassy almost four years ago and I oppose it again today.
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:46 pm

Authoring AI slop is a bold move from someone whose region is easily raidable. >=]
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Postby Xoriet » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:16 pm

Angeloid Astraea wrote:Authoring AI slop is a bold move from someone whose region is easily raidable. >=]

Even the campaign TG looks to have been AI.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:22 pm

The Hill Republic was extremely desperate to get his TGs out. He sent this tag:delegates campaign at 20:31:33 BST on Friday:


And then this, also a tag:delegates campaign, at 10:46:12 GMT on Sunday (Europe moved out of Daylight Savings Time in the early hours of Sunday):
https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=the_hill_republic_1729798824

Delegates,

The Security Council is currently gathering approvals on the Declaration on Diplomacy, a resolution aimed at reaffirming the importance of multilateralism, diplomacy, and respect for international obligations in the NationStates community.

Proposed by me, this declaration urges regions to prioritize peaceful dialogue, discourage unilateral aggression, and foster collaboration for conflict resolution. It emphasizes safeguarding sovereignty, human rights, and global stability through responsible actions.

With 38 approvals so far, this is a critical opportunity for us to solidify our shared commitment to diplomacy and stability. I encourage you to review and approve this declaration to promote a more peaceful and cooperative world. There are 17 hours remaining to do so.

Let's work together for a future rooted in diplomacy and mutual respect.

Thank you.


Then he sent me this unmarked campaign telegram, as an individual TG, at 10:49:40 GMT on Sunday, after approving Obesity Awareness (a GA proposal I co-authored and was campaigning for after TNP tried to derail it):
I approve, can you approve this pls page=UN_view_proposal/id=the_hill_republic_1729798824
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Postby Dushina » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:09 pm

It's really really disappointing that stuff like this is getting to vote.
I've written some bad stuff before, but I've never had the gall to submit a AI generated proposal and beg desperately for approvals.

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Postby Nu Elysium » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:09 pm

why is the south pacific voting for this lmao
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Postby Aadhiris » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:13 pm

Heavily, heavily against. How in the name of Max Barry and all that is holy did did this even make it to vote?
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who uses AI for a declaration?

Postby Walaciat » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:31 pm

honestly, I may be tempted to vote for this if someone didn’t use AI to make it. it pretty much gets rid of any chance of me voting for this.

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Postby Great Britain-and Northern Ireland » Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:10 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:I checked this for AI generation on a number of different detectors. They came back with a range of results: 85 - 100% AI generated.

Also not drafted on the forums, so against.

Really? Where can I find said detectors? :eyebrow:
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Postby Xoriet » Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:13 pm

Great Britain-and Northern Ireland wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:I checked this for AI generation on a number of different detectors. They came back with a range of results: 85 - 100% AI generated.

Also not drafted on the forums, so against.

Really? Where can I find said detectors? :eyebrow:

He stated on his own RMB that he uses AI.
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Postby The Palentine » Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:00 pm

I always thought Diplomacy was the art of keeping the enemy talking until you can bring your artillery into range. :p

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Postby Aurum Republic States » Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:41 pm

The Palentine wrote:I always thought Diplomacy was the art of keeping the enemy talking until you can bring your artillery into range. :p

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