by Oceasia » Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:19 am
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by Raskana » Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:54 am
Hutsuls wrote:In extremely simplistic terms, Sudanese civil war is a proxy war between USA and Russia.
by Attestaltarragbistan Brassilistan » Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:58 am
Hutsuls wrote:In extremely simplistic terms, Sudanese civil war is a proxy war between USA and Russia.
by Azassas » Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:59 am
by Hutsuls » Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:18 am
by Turenia » Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:28 am
by El Lazaro » Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:15 am
by Turenia » Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:22 am
El Lazaro wrote:There is a small but present chance that this spills over into an extremely messy regional brawl centered around Ethiopia. The RSF and Fano (tl;dr basically an Ethiopian RSF/an ethno-nationalist militia that helped the Ethiopian government do a little ethnic cleansing before taking up arms to resist disbandment) could ally due to their shared enemies in the SAF and Tigrayan People’s Liberation Front, as could Fano and Eritrea if renewed tension with Ethiopia goes hot. Rival ethnic militias could take advantage of this distraction by resuming the fight with the Ethiopian government, as could the Islamic State, because of course they’re involved. Meanwhile, a Somali-Egyptian military alliance has been formed to counter the threats posed by filling the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (which could cause drought and famine upstream in Egypt and Sudan) and Ethiopia deal with Somaliland (a separatist state in Somalia) to gain port access in exchange for international recognition. The irony is that the Ethiopian Prime Minister is a Nobel Peace Prize laureate.
by El Lazaro » Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:32 am
Hutsuls wrote:Raskana wrote:How is the USA involved?
To be more clear, Sudanese war is because SAF and RSF are fighting for power. USA, ignoring their sermons of democracy which they do when it serves their interests indulged with SAF head and there was conspiracy that SAF head wanted RSF head dead.
Which is why this started. USA is or was supporting SAF for oil and other resources and Russia supporting RSF for gaining domination in North Africa along with China.
Recently though, comically, both countries have switched sides, which is why RAF is amenable to USA talks, they attacked Russian plane, and SAF getting support of Russia, China and Iran.
For additional information on the causes of Sudanese civil war:
https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023 ... -diplomacy
by Oceasia » Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:56 am
El Lazaro wrote:Hutsuls wrote:
To be more clear, Sudanese war is because SAF and RSF are fighting for power. USA, ignoring their sermons of democracy which they do when it serves their interests indulged with SAF head and there was conspiracy that SAF head wanted RSF head dead.
Which is why this started. USA is or was supporting SAF for oil and other resources and Russia supporting RSF for gaining domination in North Africa along with China.
Recently though, comically, both countries have switched sides, which is why RAF is amenable to USA talks, they attacked Russian plane, and SAF getting support of Russia, China and Iran.
For additional information on the causes of Sudanese civil war:
https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023 ... -diplomacy
The article isn’t about the causes of the war, and it doesn’t really support the claim that America could have prevented the conflict. America is opposed to a military government of any sort in Sudan, but there’s no real way to combat either side except arming the fuck out of South Sudanese-backed rebels.
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by Rio Cana » Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:09 am
by Kaumudeen » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:07 pm
Turenia wrote:This whole war is clusterfuck. Let them fight it out, fuck them. The RSF seem like the side to be on; totalitarian brutes, but so is the other side. Both sides took part in the Khartoum massacre, so there's no good guy.
But the RSF seems more amenable to the west politically; I believe it held talks with Israel and is an ally of the UAE, a militant opposer of Iranian influence in the middle east. Sadly, the RSF are supported by Russia, Wagner and other crooks.
by Turenia » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:13 pm
Kaumudeen wrote:Turenia wrote:This whole war is clusterfuck. Let them fight it out, fuck them. The RSF seem like the side to be on; totalitarian brutes, but so is the other side. Both sides took part in the Khartoum massacre, so there's no good guy.
But the RSF seems more amenable to the west politically; I believe it held talks with Israel and is an ally of the UAE, a militant opposer of Iranian influence in the middle east. Sadly, the RSF are supported by Russia, Wagner and other crooks.
"Amenable to the West"
"Supported by Russia"
make up your mind.
by Vrbo » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:15 pm
by Oceasia » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:21 pm
Kaumudeen wrote:Turenia wrote:This whole war is clusterfuck. Let them fight it out, fuck them. The RSF seem like the side to be on; totalitarian brutes, but so is the other side. Both sides took part in the Khartoum massacre, so there's no good guy.
But the RSF seems more amenable to the west politically; I believe it held talks with Israel and is an ally of the UAE, a militant opposer of Iranian influence in the middle east. Sadly, the RSF are supported by Russia, Wagner and other crooks.
"Amenable to the West"
"Supported by Russia"
make up your mind.
Jurassic World has announced a new attraction coming this June. No other details were given.
by Oceasia » Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:04 am
Jurassic World has announced a new attraction coming this June. No other details were given.
by Turenia » Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:36 am
by Risottia » Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:04 am
by Adamede » Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:27 am
Hutsuls wrote:Raskana wrote:How is the USA involved?
To be more clear, Sudanese war is because SAF and RSF are fighting for power. USA, ignoring their sermons of democracy which they do when it serves their interests indulged with SAF head and there was conspiracy that SAF head wanted RSF head dead.
Which is why this started. USA is or was supporting SAF for oil and other resources and Russia supporting RSF for gaining domination in North Africa along with China.
Recently though, comically, both countries have switched sides, which is why RAF is amenable to USA talks, they attacked Russian plane, and SAF getting support of Russia, China and Iran.
For additional information on the causes of Sudanese civil war:
https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023 ... -diplomacy
Risottia wrote:Well, the Sudanese can just ask for the help of the Arab League, Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, Ethiopia, China, Russia, and other entirely effective, absolutely well-meaning and non-colonial entities; unlike those evil Europeans.
by Adamede » Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:30 am
Turenia wrote:This whole war is clusterfuck. Let them fight it out, fuck them. The RSF seem like the side to be on; totalitarian brutes, but so is the other side. Both sides took part in the Khartoum massacre, so there's no good guy.
But the RSF seems more amenable to the west politically; I believe it held talks with Israel and is an ally of the UAE, a militant opposer of Iranian influence in the middle east. Sadly, the RSF are supported by Russia, Wagner and other crooks.
by Oceasia » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:26 am
Jurassic World has announced a new attraction coming this June. No other details were given.
by Adamede » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:31 am
by Turenia » Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:21 am
Adamede wrote:Turenia wrote:This whole war is clusterfuck. Let them fight it out, fuck them. The RSF seem like the side to be on; totalitarian brutes, but so is the other side. Both sides took part in the Khartoum massacre, so there's no good guy.
But the RSF seems more amenable to the west politically; I believe it held talks with Israel and is an ally of the UAE, a militant opposer of Iranian influence in the middle east. Sadly, the RSF are supported by Russia, Wagner and other crooks.
Yah no. Lip service alone is not what makes one amenable to anything, let alone when they’re actively allied to your main enemy.
Regardless I’d rather we supported less armed strongmen, not more.
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