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[DRAFT] Repeal: GA 17 "WA General Fund"

Postby Illahee » Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:35 am

Target: https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=17/council=1

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Repeal: GA 17 "WA General Fund"

Recognizing that GA 17 "WA General Fund" contains numerous inconsistencies and oversights within its clauses, which prevent the establishment of a stable and fair funding mechanism for the World Assembly (WA);

Concerned that Clause 1’s emphasis on voluntary donations is contradicted by Clause 4, which imposes mandatory assessments based on national wealth, effectively turning voluntary contributions into coerced payments and undermining the resolution’s intent to avoid compulsory financial burdens;

Noting the lack of enforcement mechanisms to ensure member states meet assessed contributions, leaving the WA’s financial stability vulnerable to unpredictable and unreliable funding, especially during economic downturns or crises;

Acknowledging that Clause 5, which returns budget surpluses in proportion to contributions, disproportionately benefits wealthier states, creating an inequitable system resulting in greater returns and influence, undermining equality among member states;

Alarmed that Clause 7’s ban on deficit spending severely restricts the WA’s flexibility to respond to urgent global crises, such as natural disasters, pandemics, or conflicts, hindering its ability to fulfill its mission of promoting global peace and cooperation;

Further noting that while Clause 8 affirms member nations' control over domestic taxation, it fails to address the expectation of using public funds for WA donations, creating potential conflicts between national priorities and international obligations, destabilizing the WA’s financial foundation;

Disapproving of Clause 6's lack of clear safeguards, as it mandates audits by "outside agencies" without specifying criteria for independence, impartiality, or accountability, raising concerns about potential corruption, waste, and mismanagement of WA funds;

Asserting a more coherent, equitable, and reliable funding structure is necessary to ensure financial stability, fairness among member states, and the WA’s capacity to respond efficiently and effectively to global challenges;

Hereby repeals GA 17 "WA General Fund."

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Postby Haymarket Riot » Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:59 am

Support as-is. Went fishing for issues and found none.
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Postby Bisofeyr » Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:57 am

I’d be inclined to support repeal, but I would remove “Noting” as enforcement mechanisms have been created through other resolutions.

Do you have a replacement in the works?
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Postby Astrobolt » Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:17 am

Tappe: Our office awaits a replacement.
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Postby Varanius » Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:22 am

We currently have no intention of authoring a replacement. Those who wish to write one and submit after we pursue this are more than free to do so, but we are not interested in attempting one.
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Postby Astrobolt » Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:25 am

Varanius wrote:We currently have no intention of authoring a replacement. Those who wish to write one and submit after we pursue this are more than free to do so, but we are not interested in attempting one.


OOC: If this is the case you probably should remove the Asserting line from your repeal.
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Postby Anduava » Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:48 am

Varanius wrote:We currently have no intention of authoring a replacement. Those who wish to write one and submit after we pursue this are more than free to do so, but we are not interested in attempting one.


Is there an assumption that the WA can rely on existing funds until another member submits a replacement resolution, or is there a contingency plan to ensure the WA’s operations remain stable during this time?

My concern is that without a structured transition, the financial stability of the WA might be at risk, which could potentially affect its ability to fulfill its global obligations.

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Postby Illahee » Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:48 am

Astrobolt wrote:
Varanius wrote:We currently have no intention of authoring a replacement. Those who wish to write one and submit after we pursue this are more than free to do so, but we are not interested in attempting one.


OOC: If this is the case you probably should remove the Asserting line from your repeal.

The assertion is valid, even if we are not the authors of a future funding proposal.
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Postby Astrobolt » Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:29 pm

Illahee wrote:
Astrobolt wrote:
OOC: If this is the case you probably should remove the Asserting line from your repeal.

The assertion is valid, even if we are not the authors of a future funding proposal.


I mean sure, but the point is that it is misleading. It implies that a future replacement which establishes a superior funding scheme is forthcoming when it is not.
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Postby Illahee » Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:56 pm

Astrobolt wrote:
Illahee wrote:The assertion is valid, even if we are not the authors of a future funding proposal.


I mean sure, but the point is that it is misleading. It implies that a future replacement which establishes a superior funding scheme is forthcoming when it is not.

We don't know that one isn't in the works. Perhaps you can step up and draft a superior funding scheme. Thank you for your input.
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Postby Varanius » Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:01 pm

Having just received issue #837, I’d like to make clear to the World Assembly that we will not be threatened into silence! Send all the auditors you’d like ya bastards!
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Postby The Ice States » Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:02 pm

Illahee wrote:
Astrobolt wrote:
I mean sure, but the point is that it is misleading. It implies that a future replacement which establishes a superior funding scheme is forthcoming when it is not.

We don't know that one isn't in the works. Perhaps you can step up and draft a superior funding scheme. Thank you for your input.

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Postby Illahee » Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:03 pm

The Ice States wrote:
Illahee wrote:We don't know that one isn't in the works. Perhaps you can step up and draft a superior funding scheme. Thank you for your input.

"Ambassador, if one were proposed, would your missions support it at least in principle?"

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Our support would depend on the quality of the proposal.
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Postby Varanius » Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:34 am

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Postby The Overmind » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:12 pm

Opposed. Just like its companion repeal, it's meant to hamstring the WA while fixing nothing.
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Postby Ci Arovannea » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:34 pm

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Postby Kay Pacha » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:09 am

The Overmind wrote:Opposed. Just like its companion repeal, it's meant to hamstring the WA while fixing nothing.

I think you've got it backwards. Hamstringing the WA fixes everything.

Support, as long as no replacements will be endorsed.
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Postby The Overmind » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:17 am

Kay Pacha wrote:
The Overmind wrote:Opposed. Just like its companion repeal, it's meant to hamstring the WA while fixing nothing.

I think you've got it backwards. Hamstringing the WA fixes everything.

Support, as long as no replacements will be endorsed.

Hamstringing the WA is good for nothing but perhaps scratching the itch of a grudge held against a community that is perceived to have slighted you in some way.

Any person who was actually acting purely in their own self-interest, who thought so little of the WA, would just, I don't know, leave?
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Postby Bananaistan » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:51 am

The Overmind wrote:
Kay Pacha wrote:I think you've got it backwards. Hamstringing the WA fixes everything.

Support, as long as no replacements will be endorsed.

Hamstringing the WA is good for nothing but perhaps scratching the itch of a grudge held against a community that is perceived to have slighted you in some way.

Any person who was actually acting purely in their own self-interest, who thought so little of the WA, would just, I don't know, leave?


OOC: A grudge against the community is entirely OOC. Repealing the target has only an IC impact and perhaps even a very negligible impact at that. OOC and IC the WA will continue to pass and repeal resolutions regardless of whether the target remains or not.
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Postby The Overmind » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:57 am

Bananaistan wrote:
The Overmind wrote:Hamstringing the WA is good for nothing but perhaps scratching the itch of a grudge held against a community that is perceived to have slighted you in some way.

Any person who was actually acting purely in their own self-interest, who thought so little of the WA, would just, I don't know, leave?


OOC: A grudge against the community is entirely OOC. Repealing the target has only an IC impact and perhaps even a very negligible impact at that. OOC and IC the WA will continue to pass and repeal resolutions regardless of whether the target remains or not.

I think we're both well aware that repeals can and do frequently have OOC intentions behind them. I don't think this is news to you, but citation: any regional WA vote thread.
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Postby The Ice States » Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:19 pm

"After discussion within our mission, we find these arguments to be persuasive on their merits and therefore would not oppose conditional on the authors endorsing a replacement which covers the ground which would be removed by this repeal. In light of legislation passed since the target which both reaffirms the existence of the General Accounting Office and further regulates the usage of World Assembly funds, we believe only the requirement for member nations to contribute funds as assessed by the GAO needs to be replaced."

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Postby Illahee » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:20 pm

Bisofeyr wrote:I’d be inclined to support repeal, but I would remove “Noting” as enforcement mechanisms have been created through other resolutions.

Do you have a replacement in the works?

Working on language that addresses this note.
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Postby Comfed » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:21 pm

If you pass this without a replacement all that is going to happen is the WA will run up vast amounts of deficit spending. GA#17 forbids the WA from doing that, and by repealing it you would both remove that barrier and not actually remove the WA of any of its spending obligations contained in other resolutions.

The bottom line is that it"s not possible to restore fiscal responsibility to the WA without first repealing other resolutions which are draining the General Fund.

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