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Postby Liberal Malaysia » Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:30 am

Since the previous thread was locked due to insufficient OP, I'm reposting this topic with what is hopefully a more substantive OP.

What do you think of PCs? Do you prefer laptops or desktops? What brands do you prefer? What chips (CPU, GPU) do you prefer? Which OS do you prefer?

I haven't owned or used a desktop PC for about 20 years now. I've been using laptop after laptop my entire adult life. I get why some people prefer desktops as they tend to be more powerful and, as someone said, easier to repair. But I personally prefer laptops due to how easy it is to bring them with me everywhere I go. I can bring it to work and I can carry it with me abroad. I've lived in several different countries and I'd hate to leave my computer behind whenever I move places. I'm not ruling out any future moves.

I game in my free time and I prefer powerful gaming laptops with at least 16GB of RAM and massive amounts of storage space (at least 2TB) that don't crash three times in 20 minutes, forcing me to press and hold the power button to perform a hard reset each time. (This literally happened to me last night. FML.)

The most important thing is that the parts I'm using aren't made in China. Luckily, Taiwan fills the gap in the semiconductor market, so they have that going for them. I prefer Asus laptops (that don't crash repeatedly) because they're made in Taiwan. I guess I also prefer Intel to AMD because Intel chips are partly made in Israel and it's nice to do my part to support Israel by buying Intel. I don't know which brands or parts are actually better though in terms of performance. My chip and brand preferences are purely geopolitical.

I tend to prefer Windows because I've been using it my entire life and I've always found it peculiar how MacOS users only have one mouse button. Like, how do you even right-click? Lol. :p

I've been told that MacOS, like most Apple products, are very rigid and very closed-off to the outside world. Songs downloaded from iTunes can only be uploaded to iOS devices that also use iTunes, for instance, whereas files saved to a Windows PC can be transferred by USB directly to an Android device without the need for a third-party app. Windows and Android are very much compatible in a way that they aren't with iOS or MacOS. I don't want to use Apple products due to the company's close ties to the CCP. Apps that were used to facilitate political dissent in China and HK have been removed from the App Store. Tim Cook is an asshole and Steve Jobs would be rolling in his grave. So that's a no from me to Apple.

As for Linux, it kind of feels like an OS that only someone who is particularly tech-savvy would use. It's supposed to be open source, but is it as good as Windows?
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Postby Liberal Malaysia » Thu Oct 10, 2024 1:26 am

Has anyone noticed that laptops these days no longer come equipped with CD/DVD players? I can't play some of my old games anymore. :(
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Postby Sveniland » Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:00 am

Liberal Malaysia wrote:Has anyone noticed that laptops these days no longer come equipped with CD/DVD players? I can't play some of my old games anymore. :(

no one really uses CDs anymore aside from enthusiasts and people who requires CD/DVDs for their work, so companies won't bother to include them since they won't miss out a lot of customers and no disk drives will also make the Laptop itself much cheaper.
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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:19 am

Sveniland wrote:
Liberal Malaysia wrote:Has anyone noticed that laptops these days no longer come equipped with CD/DVD players? I can't play some of my old games anymore. :(

no one really uses CDs anymore aside from enthusiasts and people who requires CD/DVDs for their work, so companies won't bother to include them since they won't miss out a lot of customers and no disk drives will also make the Laptop itself much cheaper.

So how do people get computer games if not from CDs. Do you download them somehow?

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:08 am

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Sveniland wrote:no one really uses CDs anymore aside from enthusiasts and people who requires CD/DVDs for their work, so companies won't bother to include them since they won't miss out a lot of customers and no disk drives will also make the Laptop itself much cheaper.

So how do people get computer games if not from CDs. Do you download them somehow?

Last time I tried to install my Total War games from the CD, the installer just downloaded them from Steam anyway...

Also, you guys can get an external CD drive if your computer doesn't have one installed.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:15 am

I prefer desktops over laptops.
I've built every computer I've owned, since pre-builts just well, suck.

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Postby Cerespasia » Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:17 am

PCs and Laptops.

I have a Dazumba-made CPU and AOC-made monitor.
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Postby Sveniland » Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:24 am

Cerespasia wrote:PCs and Laptops.

I have a Dazumba-made CPU and AOC-made monitor.

um I've seen a AOC monitor, but what the hell is a Dazumba CPU?
guess i'll share my PC build.
i own 2 PCs
a Samsung Galaxy 2 Laptop (for schoolwork)
and a All-white gaming PC (with a Ryzen 7 7700X cpu and a RX 7700XT, yes i love 7s and AMD)
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Postby Cerespasia » Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:30 am

Sveniland wrote:
Cerespasia wrote:PCs and Laptops.

I have a Dazumba-made CPU and AOC-made monitor.

um I've seen a AOC monitor, but what the hell is a Dazumba CPU?
guess i'll share my PC build.
i own 2 PCs
a Samsung Galaxy 2 Laptop (for schoolwork)
and a All-white gaming PC (with a Ryzen 7 7700X cpu and a RX 7700XT, yes i love 7s and AMD)

I know next to nothing about Dazumba. Might be a local brand for all I know.

I think I meant that my Computer Processing Unit, more specifically it's casing is made by that company, all the other insides are from different ones.
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Postby Sveniland » Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:32 am

Cerespasia wrote:
Sveniland wrote:um I've seen a AOC monitor, but what the hell is a Dazumba CPU?
guess i'll share my PC build.
i own 2 PCs
a Samsung Galaxy 2 Laptop (for schoolwork)
and a All-white gaming PC (with a Ryzen 7 7700X cpu and a RX 7700XT, yes i love 7s and AMD)

I know next to nothing about Dazumba. Might be a local brand for all I know.

I think I meant that my Computer Processing Unit, more specifically it's casing is made by that company, all the other insides are from different ones.

okay... what's your PC spec? just curious.
actually i'm asking to everyone looking here who has a PC.
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Postby Hirota » Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:57 am

Dazumba typically sell pre-builds and other random stuff, don't know much else about them.

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Postby Sveniland » Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:16 am

Hirota wrote:Dazumba typically sell pre-builds and other random stuff, don't know much else about them.

Main specs.
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3 or 4 laptops I use for various bits and pieces, favourite one is my surface book 2.

Planning to update my main once I get round to it, but it runs everything I need without issue, so no rush.

Nice specs!
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Postby Sveniland » Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:06 am

Senkaku wrote:I have been infected with the Mac mind virus

lol, I used to have it.
Mostly because my dad gave me a MacBook Air which he used for a while, it was way faster than my old pentium laptop so ye.
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Postby Untecna » Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:22 am

Liberal Malaysia wrote:Has anyone noticed that laptops these days no longer come equipped with CD/DVD players? I can't play some of my old games anymore. :(

External DVD drives are around $25 or so.
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Postby Neo-Hermitius » Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:29 am

my PC is actually goated tho. its a HP prebuilt 12 gigs ram a Ryzen 5600G integrated graphics like 1 TB of hard drive space like 512 gigs SSD space. it somehow handles fortnite well, handled NV well (until it became cursed and made NV never work but I'm getting off track). its like really good. Costco PC's for the win :lol:
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Postby Nanocyberia » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:14 am

I definitely prefer a desktop, for the usual reasons of performance and repairability. I have used laptops in recent years because due a particular living arrangement as it's handier to have a smaller device compared to a desktop.
Windows all the way--currently running 11!
I tried Linux Ubuntu for a couple of years on a laptop. It eventually just annoyed me because certain program updates were becoming too much of a challenge and I needed a faster laptop anyway...

Liberal Malaysia wrote:Has anyone noticed that laptops these days no longer come equipped with CD/DVD players? I can't play some of my old games anymore. :(

What annoys me far more about laptops is the high price for models with ample storage space. I don't know what planet manufacturers are on these days but having a gaming laptop, with decent hardware, and a 500 GB disk is taking the piss! Er, hello? Have you seen the space requirements of games lately? Diablo IV requires 90 GB; Baldur's Gate 3 requires 150 GB... GTA V, back when it was released, "only" took about 70 GB but with updates over the years it takes a little over 110 GB...

My previous desktops obviously had CD or DVD drives but I no longer play the games that came in that format...
My current desktop*, that I assembled way back in 2017, doesn't have such a drive--and haven't missed it. A couple of games were available as downloads via online platforms such as Steam or the ones from EA and Ubisoft. Everything else has indeed been download-only. Could do with a notably faster Internet connection, though...

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It's not like we can count on the Palestinians to produce technologically-advanced components any time soon...
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Postby Valentine Z » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:40 am

I got a PC with 96 GB RAM and a ThinkPad P51 with 48 GB RAM.

The PC has a AMD Ryzen because for that time when I was choosing the parts, it was the cheaper option. I'm glad I stick to it.

ThinkPad is a dinosaur, but not THAT much of a dino... Xeon CPU with Quadro GPU.
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Postby Inner Albania » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:43 am

Valentine Z wrote:I got a PC with 96 GB RAM and a ThinkPad P51 with 48 GB RAM.

The PC has a AMD Ryzen because for that time when I was choosing the parts, it was the cheaper option. I'm glad I stick to it.

ThinkPad is a dinosaur, but not THAT much of a dino... Xeon CPU with Quadro GPU.

A PC with how much RAM?.

I see RTX 4090 builds with less RAM than your ThinkPad.
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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:49 am

I've honestly had shit luck with PC Laptops. Granted, I've only ever bought cheap Lenovos since I'm on a budget and don't game, but the last two I've had both crapped out within months (got full refunds from Costco, though). Next time I buy a laptop, I'm going back to a Mac, I had one for years and never had a single issue.

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Postby Furrensweig » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:51 am

I prefer laptops, specifically a windows laptop, prolly because I don't use my laptop for high-end applications, and I prefer its portability.
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Postby Dragoria » Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:06 pm

I work in IT. We mostly have Dell computers at work and they hold up fairly well. Which is lucky since some of the equipment there that the computers have to interface with are older than I am.
I've just ordered a new laptop for my mother to replace the one we've had since 2016. It still runs, but it's slowing way down and can't handle Win11.
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