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When will pre-crash census data be visible again?

Postby Tinhampton » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:00 am

All national census data from February 2016 (when this sort of data started to be published, as part of the Fast Issues update) up until the server crash in April 2024 is still invisible, almost six months after we went back online. Examples of this can be seen on my WA Endorsements trend page and Kyupaa's Population trend page, both of which have April 25th as their first data point. (However, regional population history graphs have all data available.)

There was some concern about this a few months after the crash, but site staff did not say anything except to clarify that the data would be visible again one day. Do we have an ETA on this or are Elu, Aav and friends still working on it?
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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:04 am

We have the data, but we're waiting for admin time to get it restored, as it's not a simple task (a previous attempt was made but ran into issues -- it is possible though, just complex). There's no ETA on that.
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Postby Vylixan » Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:15 am

Not all census data is invisible, nations that were CTE at the time of the crash don't have this problem.
For example: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=rot ... ensusid=86

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Postby Enzonar » Thu Oct 10, 2024 1:40 pm

Is the crash also the reason for every nation having a default flag?
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Postby Refuge Isle » Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:25 pm

Enzonar wrote:Is the crash also the reason for every nation having a default flag?

Every nation does not have a default flag...

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Postby The Ice States » Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:17 pm

Something I noticed a while ago is also that dispatch views were reset; for example I don't think these dispatches with 10+ upvotes were only ever read once.
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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:32 am

Pile-on, but this dispatch shows as not having been edited even though I did edit it, a lot, between June 2023 and the crash.
The Self-Administrative City of TINHAMPTON (pop. 329,537): Saffron Howard, Mayor (UCP); Alexander Smith, WA Delegate-Ambassador

Authorships & co-authorships: SC#250, SC#251, Issue #1115, SC#267, GA#484, GA#491, GA#533, GA#540, GA#549, SC#356, GA#559, GA#562, GA#567, GA#578, SC#374, GA#582, SC#375, GA#589, GA#590, SC#382, SC#385, GA#597, GA#607, SC#415, GA#647, GA#656, GA#664, GA#671, GA#674, GA#675, GA#677, GA#680, Issue #1580, GA#682, GA#683, GA#684, GA#692, GA#693, GA#715, GA#757
The rest of my CV: Cup of Harmony 73 champions; Philosopher-Queen of Sophia; anti-NPO cabalist in good standing; proclaimer of WZTC's move to Palmetto
Tinhampton the player: 49yo Tory woman w/Asperger's; Cambridge graduate; currently reading nothing (sorry)

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Postby The Galactic Empire of Zimbabwae2 » Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:14 pm

Vylixan wrote:Not all census data is invisible, nations that were CTE at the time of the crash don't have this problem.
For example: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=rot ... ensusid=86

That's interesting. I couldn't find any info on why some nations still had their data.

What would be the technical reason for why nations that were CTE didn't have this problem?

I thought that redundant systems worked to keep entire backups at specific points in time, so I'm not seeing why this would happen? Though I am sure there is some technical reason
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