by Pogravska » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:28 am
by Bestiela » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:32 am
by Pogravska » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:35 am
Bestiela wrote:I see where you're coming form, and I agree, but I agree on the idealism of pronouns. Like, we should resort to what other language does and makes you either an object or a person, but English is a language where anything goes. So for me I agree with the materialism but I ike the pronouns. We added B to debt so why can't I call a guy clown/clownself?
sorry if that was off topic.
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by Cyptopir » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:38 am
by Pogravska » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:38 am
Cerespasia wrote:As a person who grew up almost entirely around straight people in Indonesia, a country with a largely religious and conservative populace, I'd place my bet on the materialist point of view.
by Pogravska » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:39 am
by Dogmeat » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:42 am
by Pogravska » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:45 am
Cyptopir wrote:Also gender is not given to you but chosen by you. The majority of the world forcing a gender upon a baby of a certain sex does not make them inherently of that gender unless they decide so.
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by Cyptopir » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:46 am
Dogmeat wrote:What you describe as "materialist" is just reductivism.
by Pogravska » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:48 am
Cyptopir wrote:Dogmeat wrote:What you describe as "materialist" is just reductivism.
Of course it is, when you take something as complex and multifaceted as gender and try to reduce it to two categories, of course you're gonna cut lots of things out. Especially if you seem to not have much understanding of gender in the first place like OP.
by Bestiela » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:50 am
Cyptopir wrote:The "idealist" perspective. Skirt go spinny :3
Also gender is not given to you but chosen by you. The majority of the world forcing a gender upon a baby of a certain sex does not make them inherently of that gender unless they decide so.
by Pogravska » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:51 am
Dogmeat wrote:What you describe as "materialist" is just reductivism.
by Pogravska » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:53 am
Bestiela wrote:
I find it find if you treat a baby who won't remember in 15 years like a little girly girl just from the sex, but at some age I find it weird to treat people based off their genitals, at some point gender is chosen by you. A 3 year old can't grasp gender, so you treat them off sex, or you treat them agender, because they don't have a gender yet. Personally, I prefer an agender approach bc being raised cis puts alot of pressure on your o be cis in later years and gets the parents used to a stereotypical girl/boy.
by Cyptopir » Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:59 am
Pogravska wrote:Cyptopir wrote:Of course it is, when you take something as complex and multifaceted as gender and try to reduce it to two categories, of course you're gonna cut lots of things out. Especially if you seem to not have much understanding of gender in the first place like OP.
Intersex is materially the non-binary gender since you're born with both male and female biological characteristics. Those who cut this part out are often the idealistic religious or reactionary dogmatic ones.
by Pogravska » Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:01 am
Cyptopir wrote:Intersex is materially an inter sex, not gender. Sex =/= gender. This is gender theory 101.
by Platypus Bureaucracy » Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:04 am
Pogravska wrote:Dogmeat wrote:What you describe as "materialist" is just reductivism.
I don't agree that gender is completely fluid. My view of gender is that there are men and women and a small amount of Intersex people. Between the fluidity there is the tomboy (woman who dresses up as a man and behaves like one) and the femboy (a man who dresses up as a woman and behaves like one). Gender isn't really that "complex" as the gender idealists like to believe (referring to the radical liberal postmodernism of gender). Sure there are minor things to be addressed but gender is easily understandable from the macro points too had one been learning basic biology at school.
by Pogravska » Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:04 am
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:I love that you started out pretending to have a serious, very abstract and philosophical discussion, but within a page you've used the word "femboy".
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by Pogravska » Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:05 am
Bestiela wrote:Where are y'all getting gender theory 101???
by Cyptopir » Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:07 am
Bestiela wrote:Where are y'all getting gender theory 101???
Pogravska wrote:I get it from basic biology and ofc gender materialism.
by Pogravska » Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:07 am
North Anlitelcontizard and Zontilezland wrote:I mean, for me, I would look at it in a materialistic way. I didn't mean that there are more genders than male, and female but sometimes there are too much genders and some which shouldn't even exist.
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