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NDay11 Development Thread

Postby Chingis » Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:03 am


It's that time of year again :bow:. Change Log is in the links above and News Post will be up soon. The focus for me this year was just on fixing all the bugs and getting the code and gameplay back to a stable state. Hopefully, this feels like a cleaner version of February.

Long-term plans still include dealing with the disparities in Faction sizes, encouraging competition and also dealing with the more boring aspects of the event like bowing out early, turtling and specialties not feeling all that special.

The purpose of this thread is to serve as a general discussion thread for the way NDay is run/ideas around how to make it better. See the Previous Discussion link at the top of the post to see the thread from last NDay. Anyone is free to post here. As always, this thread is subject to good-faith guidelines. This means that posts like "This event sucks and I hate it", belong somewhere else. Constructive feedback is absolutely fine, however, e.g. "This event sucks because I'm never able to be a Military Specialist. I think it would be good to add a button that allows you to switch specialty halfway through the event. It could go on page X and do Y."

Post Event thoughts:

This was my first time playing the event since NDay 6, and I was left quite happy with my changes, to toot my own horn slightly.

- Cross Faction Shielding: I am happy with this. It's harder to shield across factions now. The levels of strategy that come from this are more complex, and there are now more tradeoffs that exist to just playing as one faction.
- Rad Penalty Reduction: I am also happy with this. Let me know if you think 0.25 is too strong, but for the first time in NDay history, I feel the event was not all-or-nothing for the factions participating.
- Shield Bank: I actually had a ton of fun refilling the shieldbank this NDay. Apologies for the integer overflow, I copied over the table definition from personal shields but it does make sense why that might not be a good data type for an entire faction of shieldbank. As things stand I might think about nerfing the bank a little bit, because I felt like it was almost too strong.
- CAPTCHA: In case people did not notice, I deactivated Captcha about two hours into the event this year. Let me know your thoughts.

Need Bug Fixes
- Faction Endorsements
- Faction WFE Preview
- Log UI
- Shieldbank overflow

My Plans
- Try to rework the way strikes, scoring and radiation work a little bit more. Even if this isn't significant changes to the gameplay, its a bit annoying with how its done backstage at the moment.
- Try to spice up the specialties a little
- Think about how to deal with disparities in faction size, puppet usage etc. To be very clear, puppet usage is a welcome and intended part of the event. The only question is how to present different challenges for different people depending on how they want to play the game.
- Ways to deal with irradiation?
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Postby Alvosa » Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:06 am

ITS TIME! MY FIRST N DAY!(Is this thread only for mods as it says “developement?)
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Postby BJMShaw » Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:38 am

With rads now deducting less, it would be cool if strats got a buff somehow. Im thinking something like more shields per prod than they do already or possibly bonus shields when they donate to the bank (wouldnt be surprised if the later would be development heavy though so probably first).

Being able to choose what specialist you are like in zday at least with wa nations would be cool for nday 12 imo, because even if a lot of people pick mil specs, more nukes, but it would require ecos to also be buffed so people actually pick it.

(Also, thank you Chingis! )

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Postby Youtube Inc » Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:37 am

Chingis wrote:Yeah, everyone is extremely busy at the moment so it's still in the air what changes happen by this NDay but ideally I will put up a change log and edit the Dispatch before we post the News Post, which should come before registration opens on the 25th.

On that note, when you say
Likewise, the Shieldbank previously needed around 1200 nukes being fired to overwhelm the minimum deployable intercepts. This number has been decreased to around 600.


does this mean the deployed shields from the bank has also been decreased? as now the minimum intercepts is lower?

also you don't get enough praise for doing these events so :clap: for all the work you do
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Postby Haganham » Tue Sep 24, 2024 9:22 am

Now, landing 100 nukes per nation in your faction is enough to guarantee a positive score.

Was this not always the case?
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Nuclear war lets goooo
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Have a ability to nuke whole groups. Like if you have enough nukes you can nuke a entire group.
Ex. If I have like 5000 nukes I can nuke EXR (example region)
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Postby Mardesurria » Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:32 pm

While I hate nuclear warfare in real life, this seems really cool and fun and stuff. I might check it out.
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I was wondering if someone skilled in the art of API could help me build a puppet farm? Thanks.

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Postby Third Empire of France » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:25 am

My first N-Day! I am both excited and terrified. But damn it did it come fast!

Anyways can I create a faction exclusively for my puppets.
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Postby Aadhiris » Wed Sep 25, 2024 7:02 am

My first N-Day, I can't wait!
I have a question though... why do the faction archives only go up to N-Day9? Will the archives for N-Day10 and N-Day11 be added someday?
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Postby Third Empire of France » Wed Sep 25, 2024 7:16 am

Aadhiris wrote:My first N-Day, I can't wait!
I have a question though... why do the faction archives only go up to N-Day9? Will the archives for N-Day10 and N-Day11 be added someday?

We get two N-Days in a year so my best guess is that they update it annually.
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:12 pm

I raised this last time, but was told I was too late but it would definitely be fixed before the next N-Day. :(

The regional faction boosts are being carried over from before.

Now as it happens we would have been boosting the same faction anyway, but that should not be assumed.
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Postby Chingis » Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:34 am

I'll see if I can deal with that next time, it was written a bit differently to the rest of the code.
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Postby Puppet2 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 10:58 am

Chingis wrote:I'll see if I can deal with that next time, it was written a bit differently to the rest of the code.

That's actually a good thing for some regions. I control a bunch of regions that are always supposed to boost the same faction and I'm not readding them manually every time.

Also: "Bikini Atoll should now function as a normal faction." It doesn't. Boosts don't accept it:

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Postby Chingis » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:16 pm

I'll deal with that in Feb
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Postby Omnicontrol » Fri Sep 27, 2024 5:06 am

Aadhiris wrote:My first N-Day, I can't wait!
I have a question though... why do the faction archives only go up to N-Day9? Will the archives for N-Day10 and N-Day11 be added someday?

I believe NDay 10 got deleted with that database crash, just like stats history and TG folders did.
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Sep 27, 2024 6:07 am

The data still exists for NDay 10, but won't be restored prior to this year's event.

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Postby Omnicontrol » Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:09 am

Sedgistan wrote:The data still exists for NDay 10, but won't be restored prior to this year's event.

Ah, thanks for the correction.
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Postby Altys » Fri Sep 27, 2024 5:34 pm

So since we buffed WA nations - maybe we should change the factions rankings per nations to factor in how WA nations are stronger than non-WAs? A different number in parenthesis indicating true strength, or perhaps even diving the nation count into non-WAs and WAs could do
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Postby All Our Base Are Belong To You » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:06 pm

Your friendly local Tinhampton here. Every nation still has 10 production six minutes into the event, even though production is supposed to go up every two minutes.
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