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The Future of AI Art

Postby Guild Commonwealth » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:39 pm

Does anyone think AI is making improvements when it comes to video and still images at a very fast rate? At first I didn't like it, but now that I want to create a web comic that would require a mix of live-action looking characters and others of various animation styles, I'm kind of intrigued at how it might help small independent projects like that or even with low-budget films. Obviously, there might be a lot of cons to go along with all the pros. What do you guys think?

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:09 pm

Guild Commonwealth wrote:Does anyone think AI is making improvements when it comes to video and still images at a very fast rate? At first I didn't like it, but now that I want to create a web comic that would require a mix of live-action looking characters and others of various animation styles, I'm kind of intrigued at how it might help small independent projects like that or even with low-budget films. Obviously, there might be a lot of cons to go along with all the pros. What do you guys think?

The Generative AI boom has turned me firmly into a tech-luddite.

I think it has laid bare the vacuous, substance-less nature of how companies actually react - to shareholder whims, no matter how irrational. Apple's ChatGPT integration is an example of this. Siri works, fine.

As fine as a non-Apple user can assess, I suppose. You post a voice query, it runs a simple subroutine much like LMGTFY.com did back in the day, and you get your answer.
But Apple investors were twitching that the shiny new toy wasn't present in their investment, and Apple caved to that pressure.#

Now, all Apple users can have their phone read aloud that they should kill themselves in response to basic queries, instead of having to read those AI-generate responses in text alone.

All of these critical elements I view are equally applied to the space of AI art. I disagree that it represents a "democratisation of art". Art is already quite democratised. You find an artist you like the work of, who takes comissions, you come to a private agreement to do whatever you both consent to do and you both depart satisfied. Extra satisfied depending on your chosen remuneration. No (or few) middlemen, simple agreements, simple arrangements.

AI art does not actually improve any part of this, all it does it (for now) make the provision of art free.

My politics, and the history of every tech startup, lead me to view the likely trajectory thus:
1) free/low-cost AI art platforms offer commission-free, lead-time-free works to people put off by the low cost of commissioning art
2) this lowering of the barrier to entry leads to an influx of AI-generated art at low cost-to-user which dilutes and buries the work of real artists in the space and forces them into unsustainable price-slashing to remain relevant.
3) the work of real artists largely displaced, AI art becomes market dominant. While stage 2 largely hasn't happened, stage 3 definitely has.
4) rapid price rises on the cost to engage with AI art generators, but some artists have already gone out of business, others are hard to find, and even if you try, the market is so saturated with AI art, finding the work of an actual artist you like is nigh-impossible, so working with an AI generator is just so much easier and it's what everyone else already does, you have a deadline to work to, don't you?

So yes, I'm very negative on generative AI, whether text, speech or art.
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Postby HISPIDA » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:11 pm

"AI" art is not art and should not be tolerated within any space

also it's definitely a bubble and i genuinely cannot wait for the day it pops and all of these massive "AI" projects fail and "AI" companies go bankrupt
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:22 pm

HISPIDA wrote:"AI" art is not art and should not be tolerated within any space

also it's definitely a bubble and i genuinely cannot wait for the day it pops and all of these massive "AI" projects fail and "AI" companies go bankrupt

That probably won't be far off. As I understand it they're pretty close to the limit of what they can achieve without relying on breakthroughs in fusion power to run even bigger warehouses full of GPUs. This latest rash of AI in everything is, hopefully, the final desperate attempt to squeeze money out of investors.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:24 pm

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HISPIDA wrote:"AI" art is not art and should not be tolerated within any space

also it's definitely a bubble and i genuinely cannot wait for the day it pops and all of these massive "AI" projects fail and "AI" companies go bankrupt

That probably won't be far off. As I understand it they're pretty close to the limit of what they can achieve without relying on breakthroughs in fusion power to run even bigger warehouses full of GPUs. This latest rash of AI in everything is, hopefully, the final desperate attempt to squeeze money out of investors.

I'm so glad I was able to finally upgrade my graphics card in the brief window of market availability between Covid-bitcoin-mining-side-hustle and Gen-AI-tech-black-hole, circa 2022.
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Postby Port Carverton » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:25 pm

HISPIDA wrote:"AI" art is not art and should not be tolerated within any space

also it's definitely a bubble and i genuinely cannot wait for the day it pops and all of these massive "AI" projects fail and "AI" companies go bankrupt

It was certainly to happen, not least because anyone can recreate those images made by the computer for absolutely free.

And also the fact that learning how to draw is absolutely free thanks to the internet.

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Postby Sarduri » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:32 pm

there is no 'future' for AI art.

Large language models and their cousins like StableDiffusion are the idiot billionaire’s solution to the problem of creating true ‘AI’. You scrape the entire internet’s worth of human structured text (committing a boatload of copyright infringement in the process) and point several gigantic computational clusters at it to build associations between words within the gigantic corpus of text. You then take the resultant collection of associations and create a prompt-response user interface that takes the collection of words a user inputs into the prompt box and assembles a probabilistic ‘answer’ based on the associations between the words in the prompt and the words in the database.

Crucially, there is no ‘intelligence’ there. It is entirely dependent on what’s in that training dataset - it cannot make inferences or connections or assemble new things that are entirely outside of that context. The only novelty it can create is the same novelty many typewriting chimpanzees could: by re-assembling already existing information.

It’s also of course a dead end. People have analyzed the ability of these models to grow in complexity and sophistication, and in order to achieve a linear rate of improvement you need to exponentially increase the available structured text. The problem being of course that it was already trained on almost all of the available human text - there just isn’t exponentially more text out there to mine. And because these LLMs are already out in the wild and people are using them to generate reams of spam search engine optimized pages, any future scraped collections of the internet will be poisoned with LLM outputs.

It’s just the latest thing, like the metaverse and crypto, that tech companies have tried to generate to be the Next Big Thing and secure their profits for years to come. you can see this unfolding with things like Apple's announcement of its partnerships with OpenAI, with Microsoft's Recall tool and every other tech company announcing new and unwanted 'AI' integrations in their products. they're all trying to harvest every drop of their users' data and generate just enough novelty to spur either their LLM tools or provide a nice payout in selling off their data to the big fish.

it's all a runway to nowhere though, as you can tell by things like Altman announcing he wants 7 trillion dollars for his gambit to develop the next generation of chips for 'AI' development. 'AI' will sadly go bust, but he'll end up at the top of a gigantic state-industrial chipmaking endeavour that can easily be sold as onshoring American technological capacity or whatever else the next big angle is.

We’re probably about two years away from this thing popping, if not less.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:50 pm

Ifreann wrote:
HISPIDA wrote:"AI" art is not art and should not be tolerated within any space

also it's definitely a bubble and i genuinely cannot wait for the day it pops and all of these massive "AI" projects fail and "AI" companies go bankrupt

That probably won't be far off. As I understand it they're pretty close to the limit of what they can achieve without relying on breakthroughs in fusion power to run even bigger warehouses full of GPUs. This latest rash of AI in everything is, hopefully, the final desperate attempt to squeeze money out of investors.

Said investors apparently have been showing themselves to the door for a while.

There are a bunch of variations on that them if you google "AI investment slowing". I was looking for a half remembered thing I heard on NPR but didn't find it.

This article points to the immense up front investment in an AI start up and the low revenue from built out ones. From what I can tell, the money in an AI company is selling yourself wholesale to a major company that needs AI for its 'something else', like Apple partnering with ChatGPT to...make Siri write for you? You sons of bitches. The only purpose this really should have served was to make us be able to talk to computers the way they do in Star Trek. But if ChatGPT knew that they would have tried to make their new model sound like Nurse Chapel, not Scarlett Johansen from the cautionary tale about AIs...

Anyway, the half remembered part which probably is 3/4s wrong because I'm getting something wrong is the models are running out of shit to train themselves on and now are learning on garbage...including their own garbage.

Also Google's oopsie where their AI undermined the very model for the internet they created by not directing people to websites to answer questions but just aggregating the information with absolutely nothing vetting that information...which means as soon as someone figures out how the model scraps and correlates could create enough lorem ipsum content to train AI to lie about whatever the culture jammer wanted it to.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:56 pm

I think it’s funny that the Internet could get too contaminated with AI-generated product to be a clean source of training data.
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Ifreann wrote:That probably won't be far off. As I understand it they're pretty close to the limit of what they can achieve without relying on breakthroughs in fusion power to run even bigger warehouses full of GPUs. This latest rash of AI in everything is, hopefully, the final desperate attempt to squeeze money out of investors.

Said investors apparently have been showing themselves to the door for a while.

There are a bunch of variations on that them if you google "AI investment slowing". I was looking for a half remembered thing I heard on NPR but didn't find it.


This article points to the immense up front investment in an AI start up and the low revenue from built out ones. From what I can tell, the money in an AI company is selling yourself wholesale to a major company that needs AI for its 'something else', like Apple partnering with ChatGPT to...make Siri write for you? You sons of bitches. The only purpose this really should have served was to make us be able to talk to computers the way they do in Star Trek. But if ChatGPT knew that they would have tried to make their new model sound like Nurse Chapel, not Scarlett Johansen from the cautionary tale about AIs...

Anyway, the half remembered part which probably is 3/4s wrong because I'm getting something wrong is the models are running out of shit to train themselves on and now are learning on garbage...including their own garbage.

Also Google's oopsie where their AI undermined the very model for the internet they created by not directing people to websites to answer questions but just aggregating the information with absolutely nothing vetting that information...which means as soon as someone figures out how the model scraps and correlates could create enough lorem ipsum content to train AI to lie about whatever the culture jammer wanted it to.


the bolded bit is an important part to understand because the open secret here is that nobody has figured out how to make money with LLMs yet. you can use ChatGPT for free right now, and a fair number of people are, to create things like SEO-optimized spam websites and eerie facebook spam pictures of Jesus as a shrimp. a lot less people are paying for the 'pro' version at $20 a month, and a subscription service where a few thousand people pay for a slightly more advanced model of ChatGPT isn't going to keep the lights on. LLMs and their ilk are incredibly expensive and capital-intensive things, after all.

you can see the missed step coming: to keep this thing going you need explosive growth and a business model to support it, and neither of those things seem to be really materializing. that's down to a lot of factors, from higher interest rates to more distrust of Silicon Valley tech types to widely publicized problems with LLMs, to the fact that as you point out later, everyone seems far more interested in pivoting themselves to be a downstream beneficiary of an 'AI' revolution by someone else as a broker of user data. Eventually people are going to realize that said someone else doesn't exist, and the bubble will pop.
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Postby Juansonia » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:02 pm

Guild Commonwealth wrote:Does anyone think AI is making improvements when it comes to video and still images at a very fast rate? At first I didn't like it, but now that I want to create a web comic that would require a mix of live-action looking characters and others of various animation styles, I'm kind of intrigued at how it might help small independent projects like that or even with low-budget films. Obviously, there might be a lot of cons to go along with all the pros. What do you guys think?
LLMs and other generative models (such as image generation models, the focus of this video) are constrained by a few things:

1. Data poisoning is inevitable. There's a lot of BS on the internet, and generated works sometimes end up getting scraped into training data.
2. As long as works are stolen for training use, people will use tools like glaze and nightshade - bags of ink in a stack of money, for the best analogy.
3. Model design - LLMs understand language really well, but they have no concept of logic or category theory. Image generators don't understand their subjects. Refactoring will be necessary for meaningful improvement.
4. For those who want real art (and not just the pretty picture), AI will never suffice. For those who care mostly about the details of the results, they'll probably want control beyond what a prompt can provide.
5: It's hard to monetise the results and cover the cost of running servers. The most monetisable use case - chatbots - already has free options with and without filters.
6. "AI" and its ilk are buzzwords which appeal to shareholders. MBAs will put LLMs where they do not belong, wasting resources and causing massive failures.

Nvidia and AMD seem to be doing really well, at least.
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Postby Sarduri » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:24 pm

Juansonia wrote:4. For those who want real art (and not just the pretty picture), AI will never suffice. For those who care mostly about the details of the results, they'll probably want control beyond what a prompt can provide.


there are amusing anecdotes about this on twitter from game art directors already. I can't find the link right now but it was a story about how said director found out two of their artists were using 'AI' to generate their work.

the jist of it was that the director requested a particular piece of concept art from the artists: they supplied it to the director, who took it along to their superiors for feedback. the superiors gave notes and the director passed them on to the artists, asking them to implement the requested changes - changing a character's clothes to a different colour, changing the background, etc.

they sent back another, different piece that didn't include all the changes. the director then realized that the artists were using generative 'AI' to create the initial bit of concept art (say 'an elf warrior standing on the crest of a hill overlooking ruins'), and the AI was resolutely failing to incorporate feedback. because the artists couldn't actually use Illustrator and didn't have the skill to touch up their pieces, they kept asking the 'AI' and it kept failing to give them what was asked.

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Postby Zetaopalatopia » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:49 pm

HISPIDA wrote:"AI" art is not art and should not be tolerated within any space

also it's definitely a bubble and i genuinely cannot wait for the day it pops and all of these massive "AI" projects fail and "AI" companies go bankrupt



Given recent developments, that would include a growing part of Microsoft and as of this week, Apple.

I personally se nothing wrong with AI art so long as all the source training is consented to. As of now, sure, no one meets that bar. But never say never. If an artist wanted to train an AI on their own library of art to make their own remixes I see nothing wrong with allowing that.

I also see nothing wrong with training AI on public works, or anything out of copyright as it harms no one. It's not stealing from artists using their art as an income as the public domain is free use anyway.
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Postby Cerespasia » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:19 pm

AI art so far hasn't ushered in a freaking dark age of technology for us.

It's just more than a bit annoying to see so many people pulling Sarah Connor cards when asked about their opinions regarding AI art left right and center.
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USHALLNOTPASS wrote:On the contrary to most people on this hellsite, I believe New Jersey should be completely vacated and transformed entirely into a server room so we can generate photorealistic images of SpongeBob voring plankton.

The most disturbing part of this will be the non-Euclidean horror of SpongeBob's fingers.
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USHALLNOTPASS wrote:On the contrary to most people on this hellsite, I believe New Jersey should be completely vacated and transformed entirely into a server room so we can generate photorealistic images of SpongeBob voring plankton.

The most disturbing part of this will be the non-Euclidean horror of SpongeBob's fingers.

In AI's defense, nobody really knows how to draw hands.

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Eahland wrote:The most disturbing part of this will be the non-Euclidean horror of SpongeBob's fingers.

In AI's defense, nobody really knows how to draw hands.


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Jewish Partisan Division wrote:In AI's defense, nobody really knows how to draw hands.


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you call it art?????? Art??? ART!?!?

it's theft plain and simple AI takes images from the internet and uses them to make "art".
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Postby Uiiop » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:21 pm

My anarchistic sensibilities have concluded me to bite the bullet and agree it's art but in practice is shit art powered by hubris rather than proper understanding of it's technical and moral limitations.

The artfulness is in it's frailty not in the fact it's an Ubermensch art that excuses destruction and degradation of laborers' careers.

Lean towards it's surrealistic failure and pay the human artists behind your Mechanical Turks rather than use as a smoke screen to turn all art into "Freelance work".
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Postby Intaglio » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:25 pm

For the most part, I dislike it and it is due to personal experiences; AI video generators all suck; I've tried multiple ones and none of them are good. AI images run the gamut from terrible to good but it's really hard to truly capture what you want in AI. AI stories suffer the same problem; I've tried some story generators and while the stories are often passable, they're just...soulless; you can just feel it was created by a machine and not a thinking, feeling human. Perhaps it will improve someday but that day definitely isn't today.

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Postby Narland » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:36 pm

Guild Commonwealth wrote:Does anyone think AI is making improvements when it comes to video and still images at a very fast rate? At first I didn't like it, but now that I want to create a web comic that would require a mix of live-action looking characters and others of various animation styles, I'm kind of intrigued at how it might help small independent projects like that or even with low-budget films. Obviously, there might be a lot of cons to go along with all the pros. What do you guys think?

How many fingers is my AI holding up? 12? 14? That's what I am thinking. :)

I would rather practice with this: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/274649277255578042/.

By the time I can use an off-the-shelf low cost or free-to-use AI to make a movie ready for prime, 100,000s of much more talented people will be doing the same. Democratization of storytelling might be a good thing if that really happens. What I do not want to see is the good tools being used for manipulation by bored narcissists who would rather play mind games. The people I feel sorry for are the actual theatre and screen scriptwriters, storyboard artists, pencillers, inkers, et. al.
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Postby Godular » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:48 pm

I despise AI art. It all looks the same, passes well into the uncanny valley, and has a higher than average probability of hiding lovecraftian monstrosities within the art.

Why the AI would think the ball of someone's foot is a good place to attach another arm, I shall never know, as I am not keen to learn.
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Postby Zantalio » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:49 pm

Godular wrote:I despise AI art. It all looks the same, passes well into the uncanny valley, and has a higher than average probability of hiding lovecraftian monstrosities within the art.

Why the AI would think the ball of someone's foot is a good place to attach another arm, I shall never know, as I am not keen to learn.

You do have a point. I might say, I’ll could show an AI picture and ask everyone here if it “passes well into the uncanny valley.”
Not sure if I could do that though.
So uh lab here wrote:you call it art?????? Art??? ART!?!?

it's theft plain and simple AI takes images from the internet and uses them to make "art".

It’s called learning. You did that.
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