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A Kingdom without a King (OOC Thread)

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A Kingdom without a King (OOC Thread)

Postby Boguila » Sat May 25, 2024 4:35 am

Background

[*] The Kingdom of Boguila had over the last several years grown into a corrupt state undermined by criminal triads and underground black market activity. King Saikou II proved largely ineffective in combating this corruption and widespread criminality over the course of his reign. This lead to General Aja Daramy on April 10th, 2024 declaring the capital city of Ouangore under martial law in order to end the triads. This however lead to a political crisis and worsening of tension.

[*] After nearly a month under martial law on May 4th, 2024, with growing pressures from Genes, to where many Boguilan nobles, including the Duke of Camarra had fled to fearing the growing strength of the military, soldiers arrested King Saikou II and executed him via firing squad in the royal palace. The king’s widow, Queen Hawa and son, Prince Tairu were imprisoned and shortly afterwards General Aja Daramy declared herself President of the new Boguilan Republic.

Summary

[*] Since General Daramy seized power, there has been increasing tension between Boguila and its neighbors on the continent of Meillur. The Genoise have so far lead the royalist cause, hosting the Duke of Camarra who declared himself a prince Regent and forced a government in exile, as well as a royalist army. Mediama meanwhile had lead a campaign of economic sanctions against Boguila, as well as pushing to get Boguila’s immediate neighbors, Liegalla, Njomero, Tavaland and Gualla to side with them.

[*] Along the Boguilan-Liegallan Border, largely made up by the Syrende River, both sides have mobilized armed forces in the region, which has lead to riots and royalist violence on the Boguilan side of the border as the rural agricultural region resists the new government. Meanwhile in the north in the Sowe Mountains the Shukomia Valley Region has declared its independence from Boguila, taking advantage of the death of King Saikou and teaming up with the triads.

[*]In Ouangore, On May 24, 2024 following a failed rescue attempt by Ephyrean SEALs meant to liberate Queen Hawa, the ex-Queen was publicly executed and her son has since disappeared, presumed dead. This execution coincided wit(the arrival of Imperian expeditionary forces in Boguila in support of President Daramy, and the escalation of violence with Boguila and worsening of tensions with its neighbors.




This thread shall serve as an OOC forum in relation to the IC Thread of A Kingdom without a King

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Postby The Selkie » Sat May 25, 2024 4:40 am

Hello, there.
General Selkie.

Fun aside, I'm here. Questions, remarks, compliments, threats - I'm all ears.
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
My people are called the Selkie, the nation is usually called the Free Lands in MT-settings. Thanks.

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Postby Mediama » Sat May 25, 2024 10:19 am

Just leaving this here for reference.
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Postby Generic empire » Sat May 25, 2024 10:43 am

-Marking for reference-

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Postby Shimono » Sat May 25, 2024 11:27 am

Tagging with a quick ORBAT of my two CBGs which just sortied, for my future reference

Battle Group Taiho

1x aircraft carrier Taiho
Carrier Air Wing: 30x Raiden fighters (navalized F-2) in three 10-plane squadrons / 2x E-2D airborne AEW aircraft / 5x helicopters
1x guided missile cruiser Shiranui
1x attack submarine Oryu
2x anti-air warfare destroyer Teruzuki & Suzutsuki
2x anti-submarine warfare destroyer Makinami & Onami
+ various supply ships

Battle Group Jogaku

1x aircraft carrier Jogaku
Carrier Air Wing: 30x Raiden fighters (navalized F-2) in three 10-plane squadrons / 2x E-2D airborne AEW aircraft / 5x helicopters
1x guided missile cruiser Asahi
1x attack submarine Taigei
2x anti-air warfare destroyer Akizuki & Fuyuzuki
2x anti-submarine warfare destroyer Takanami & Suzunami
+ various supply ships
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Postby Cosacakaya » Sat May 25, 2024 1:19 pm

Tagging for future reference

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Postby Awesome Imperium » Sat May 25, 2024 4:42 pm

Imperial Expeditionary Fleet

Aircraft Carriers
x1 Cavour-class Aircraft Carrier
- Cavour

Amphibious Warfare Ships
x1 San Giorgio-class Amphibious Transport Dock
- Mauretania
x1 Andromeda-class Amphibious Assault Ship
- Andromache
x1 Windigo-class Amphibious Attack Ship
- Neptune

Battleships
x2 Duchess of Marquesas-class Fast Battleship (Project Nightwatcher)
- Rosa Atra, Vae Victis

Cruisers
x2 Accesnion-class Global Cruiser
- Ascension, Dominion

Destroyers
x2 Audax-class Destroyer
- Audax, Fortis
x3 TF2000-class Destroyer
- Tarsus, Tyrus, Trapezus
x2 Bonifaz-class Destroyer
- Bonifaz, Roger de Lauria
x6 Aquitaine-class Destroyer (FREMM-class)
- Auvergne, Bretagne, Normandie, Provence, La Spezia, Castellamare

Frigates
x5 Admiral Ronarc'h-class Frigate
- Admiral Castex, Admiral Louzeau, Admiral Cabainer, Nearchos, Formion

Ballistic Missile Submarines
x1 Ravana-class Ballistic Missile Submarine
- Caetus
Attack Submarines
x2 Heartrender-class Attack Submarines
- Heartrender, Vengeance
x6 Type 209-class Attack Submarine
- Latakia, Damietta, Poseidon, Dardanellia, Suvla Bay, Souda Bay
x2 Type 212-class Attack Submarine
- Scire, Galatea
x2 Type 214-class Attack Submarine
- Matrozoz, Katsonis

Non-combattant/Support Ships
x2 Provider-class Dry Cargo/Ammunition Ship
- P-01, P-02
x2 Barque-class Fast Combat Support Ship
- B-01, B-02
x8 Tiamat-class Expeditionary Fast Transport
- P-22, P-23, P-24, P-25, P-26, P-46, P-47, P-48
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Postby The Selkie » Sat May 25, 2024 5:16 pm

Awesome Imperium wrote:Imperial Expeditionary Fleet

Aircraft Carriers
x1 Cavour-class Aircraft Carrier
- Cavour

Amphibious Warfare Ships
x1San Giorgio-class Amphibious Transport Dock
- Mauretania
x1 Andromeda-class Amphibious Assault Ship
- Andromache
x1 Windigo-class Amphibious Attack Ship
- Neptune

Battleships
x2 Duchess of Marquesas-class Fast Battleship (Project Nightwatcher)
- Rosa Atra, Vae Victis

Cruisers
x2 Accesnion-class Cruiser
- Ascension, Dominion

Destroyers
x2 Audax-class Destroyer
- Audax, Fortis
x3 TF2000-class Destroyer
- Tarsus, Tyrus, Trapezus
x2 Bonifaz-class Destroyer
- Bonifaz
- Roger de Lauria
x6 Aquitaine-class Destroyer (FREMM-class)
- Auvergne, Bretagne, Normandie, Provence, La Spezia, Castellamare

Frigates
x5 Admiral Ronarc'h-class Frigate
- Admiral Castex, Admiral Louzeau, Admiral Cabainer, Nearchos, Formion

Ballistic Missile Submarines
x1 Ravana-class Ballistic Missile Submarine
- Caetus
Attack Submarines
x2 Heartrender-class Attack Submarines
- Heartrender, Vengeance
x6 Type 209-class Attack Submarine
- Latakia, Damietta, Poseidon, Dardanellia, Suvla Bay, Souda Bay
x2 Type 212-class Attack Submarine
- Scire, Galatea
x2 Type 214-class Attack Submarine
- Matrozoz, Katsonis

Non-combattant/Support Ships
x2 Provider-class Dry Cargo/Ammunition Ship
- P-01, P-02
x2 Barque-class Fast Combat Support Ship
- B-01, B-02
x8 Tiamat-class Expeditionary Fast Transport
- P-22, P-23, P-24, P-25, P-26, P-46, P-47, P-48


Small question, AI: Is this going to be the maximum extend of Imperia's naval forces, which will be deployed to the region for the duration of this crisis, even if it turns into a war?
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
My people are called the Selkie, the nation is usually called the Free Lands in MT-settings. Thanks.

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Postby Awesome Imperium » Sat May 25, 2024 5:32 pm

The Selkie wrote:
Awesome Imperium wrote:Imperial Expeditionary Fleet

Aircraft Carriers
x1 Cavour-class Aircraft Carrier
- Cavour

Amphibious Warfare Ships
x1San Giorgio-class Amphibious Transport Dock
- Mauretania
x1 Andromeda-class Amphibious Assault Ship
- Andromache
x1 Windigo-class Amphibious Attack Ship
- Neptune

Battleships
x2 Duchess of Marquesas-class Fast Battleship (Project Nightwatcher)
- Rosa Atra, Vae Victis

Cruisers
x2 Accesnion-class Cruiser
- Ascension, Dominion

Destroyers
x2 Audax-class Destroyer
- Audax, Fortis
x3 TF2000-class Destroyer
- Tarsus, Tyrus, Trapezus
x2 Bonifaz-class Destroyer
- Bonifaz
- Roger de Lauria
x6 Aquitaine-class Destroyer (FREMM-class)
- Auvergne, Bretagne, Normandie, Provence, La Spezia, Castellamare

Frigates
x5 Admiral Ronarc'h-class Frigate
- Admiral Castex, Admiral Louzeau, Admiral Cabainer, Nearchos, Formion

Ballistic Missile Submarines
x1 Ravana-class Ballistic Missile Submarine
- Caetus
Attack Submarines
x2 Heartrender-class Attack Submarines
- Heartrender, Vengeance
x6 Type 209-class Attack Submarine
- Latakia, Damietta, Poseidon, Dardanellia, Suvla Bay, Souda Bay
x2 Type 212-class Attack Submarine
- Scire, Galatea
x2 Type 214-class Attack Submarine
- Matrozoz, Katsonis

Non-combattant/Support Ships
x2 Provider-class Dry Cargo/Ammunition Ship
- P-01, P-02
x2 Barque-class Fast Combat Support Ship
- B-01, B-02
x8 Tiamat-class Expeditionary Fast Transport
- P-22, P-23, P-24, P-25, P-26, P-46, P-47, P-48


Small question, AI: Is this going to be the maximum extend of Imperia's naval forces, which will be deployed to the region for the duration of this crisis, even if it turns into a war?

Depends on the situation. If there are more nations siding with Liegalla in the case of war then it could be increased, though naval resources are strained as units have been deployed to the Banesmar Islands and a sizable force is needed in the Mediterranean and Imperium Waters. But it could increase in terms of Support Vessels if war breaks out to ensure the fleet is well supplied, and maybe a few more submarines.
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Postby The Selkie » Sat May 25, 2024 5:42 pm

Awesome Imperium wrote:
The Selkie wrote:


Small question, AI: Is this going to be the maximum extend of Imperia's naval forces, which will be deployed to the region for the duration of this crisis, even if it turns into a war?

Depends on the situation. If there are more nations siding with Liegalla in the case of war then it could be increased, though naval resources are strained as units have been deployed to the Banesmar Islands and a sizable force is needed in the Mediterranean and Imperium Waters. But it could increase in terms of Support Vessels if war breaks out to ensure the fleet is well supplies, and maybe a few more submarines.


I see. Thank you for the reply.
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
My people are called the Selkie, the nation is usually called the Free Lands in MT-settings. Thanks.

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Postby Falconzka » Sun May 26, 2024 3:15 am

The Federation of Falconzka being a authoritarian nation itself would feel threatened by the new republic and also fearing the same happening to itself would send a fleet to blockade the new-founded republic. The fleet would consist of

28 Battleships (Super battleships also included)
110 Cruisers
200 Destroyers
3 Carriers

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Postby Awesome Imperium » Sun May 26, 2024 7:44 am

Falconzka wrote:The Federation of Falconzka being a authoritarian nation itself would feel threatened by the new republic and also fearing the same happening to itself would send a fleet to blockade the new-founded republic. The fleet would consist of

28 Battleships (Super battleships also included)
110 Cruisers
200 Destroyers
3 Carriers

Did u tg Boguila to enter? And 28 battleships? Really? 200 destroyers is more than the total amounts of ships in entire major navies.

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Postby Ephyrea » Sun May 26, 2024 7:50 am

Marking for reference. I'll post in the IC on Monday I'm currently catching up!

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Postby Schwessen-Hellfohen » Sun May 26, 2024 7:53 am

Boguila, could you respond to my last three posts.
A German-like state with PM tech

A Class 1.07 Civilization according to this index.

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Postby Falconzka » Sun May 26, 2024 9:28 am

Awesome Imperium wrote:
Falconzka wrote:The Federation of Falconzka being a authoritarian nation itself would feel threatened by the new republic and also fearing the same happening to itself would send a fleet to blockade the new-founded republic. The fleet would consist of

28 Battleships (Super battleships also included)
110 Cruisers
200 Destroyers
3 Carriers

Did u tg Boguila to enter? And 28 battleships? Really? 200 destroyers is more than the total amounts of ships in entire major navies.



Im new srry

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Postby Generic empire » Sun May 26, 2024 9:49 am

Falconzka wrote:
Awesome Imperium wrote:Did u tg Boguila to enter? And 28 battleships? Really? 200 destroyers is more than the total amounts of ships in entire major navies.



Im new srry


We all were new at some point. Far be it from me to give advice, but the following might be helpful to you:

This is an OOC thread, meaning “out of character” – typically for maintenance and administrative discussion, etc. The IC (in-character) thread is here. I’d start by reading that, and then if you’re still interested in participating, send a Telegram (TG) to Boguila, the OP (original poster) expressing interest and how you’d like to get involved. Since the IC thread specifies that you need to TG, it means you need Boguila's permission to get involved.

Since you’re new to the boards, I’d recommend starting with something less ambitious than a military deployment, i.e., offering diplomatic or economic support.

Forgive me if this is redundant or pedantic.

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Postby Mediama » Sun May 26, 2024 10:35 am

Generic empire wrote:
Falconzka wrote:

Im new srry


We all were new at some point. Far be it from me to give advice, but the following might be helpful to you:

This is an OOC thread, meaning “out of character” – typically for maintenance and administrative discussion, etc. The IC (in-character) thread is here. I’d start by reading that, and then if you’re still interested in participating, send a Telegram (TG) to Boguila, the OP (original poster) expressing interest and how you’d like to get involved. Since the IC thread specifies that you need to TG, it means you need Boguila's permission to get involved.

Since you’re new to the boards, I’d recommend starting with something less ambitious than a military deployment, i.e., offering diplomatic or economic support.

Forgive me if this is redundant or pedantic.


Given how things have escalated at this point, he wouldn’t have much diplomatic options outside of token gestures.
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Postby Generic empire » Sun May 26, 2024 10:49 am

Mediama wrote:Given how things have escalated at this point, he wouldn’t have much diplomatic options outside of token gestures.


I hold out hope for a peaceful resolution :lol2:

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Postby Awesome Imperium » Sun May 26, 2024 11:39 am

Generic empire wrote:
Mediama wrote:Given how things have escalated at this point, he wouldn’t have much diplomatic options outside of token gestures.


I hold out hope for a peaceful resolution :lol2:


Since Generia and Imperia support Boguila now, I think both of our nations could persuade General Daramy to at least have talks with the opposing side. She would have more bargaining power and her position would be supported by Generia and Imperia which could prevent intimidation at such talks by opposing delegations. The Leigallans and their allies would have to tread carefully as the scales of power are now more even between Liegalla and Boguila.

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Postby Tavaland » Sun May 26, 2024 12:19 pm

Greetings everyone,

I’ve been watching events play out for some time now, as a neighbor of Boguila, and wish to offer aid in potentially hosting a conference in order to help deescalating the ongoing crisis even the death of Queen Hawa and the arrival of Imperia’s forces seems to be pushing the continent closer and and closer to outright conflict, which it is hoped can still be avoided through a diplomatic compromise.

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Postby Awesome Imperium » Sun May 26, 2024 12:26 pm

Tavaland wrote:Greetings everyone,

I’ve been watching events play out for some time now, as a neighbor of Boguila, and wish to offer aid in potentially hosting a conference in order to help deescalating the ongoing crisis even the death of Queen Hawa and the arrival of Imperia’s forces seems to be pushing the continent closer and and closer to outright conflict, which it is hoped can still be avoided through a diplomatic compromise.


I'd accept. Assuming they are neutral, their geographic location is also far away from the conflict hotspots and the rebels.
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Postby Generic empire » Sun May 26, 2024 12:58 pm

Awesome Imperium wrote:Since Generia and Imperia support Boguila now, I think both of our nations could persuade General Daramy to at least have talks with the opposing side. She would have more bargaining power and her position would be supported by Generia and Imperia which could prevent intimidation at such talks by opposing delegations. The Leigallans and their allies would have to tread carefully as the scales of power are now more even between Liegalla and Boguila.


We shall see. These things do tend to go awkward.

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Postby Boguila » Mon May 27, 2024 8:31 am

I think for like a rule of thumb, unless you are Liegalla, Tavaland, Gualla or Njomero, direct neighbors of Boguila, if you are sending more than a fleet of 50 vessels or ten thousand soldiers or 50 aircraft, that is too much.

Shukomia Valley mobilized around that many soldiers and that was them conducting a full scale secession from the state.

Sending hundreds of vessels is neither efficient, sustainable nor realistic given the events that have thus far taken place I believe.

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Postby The Selkie » Mon May 27, 2024 8:35 am

Boguila wrote:I think for like a rule of thumb, unless you are Liegalla, Tavaland, Gualla or Njomero, direct neighbors of Boguila, if you are sending more than a fleet of 50 vessels or ten thousand soldiers or 50 aircraft, that is too much.

Shukomia Valley mobilized around that many soldiers and that was them conducting a full scale secession from the state.

Sending hundreds of vessels is neither efficient, sustainable nor realistic given the events that have thus far taken place I believe.


Would the fleet limit include appropriate support vessels (like tenders or landing craft) or is it "everything, that floats"?
Also, maximum of 50 aircraft - does that include drones, helicopters and carrier aircraft?
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
My people are called the Selkie, the nation is usually called the Free Lands in MT-settings. Thanks.

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Postby Generic empire » Mon May 27, 2024 8:54 am

The Selkie wrote:Would the fleet limit include appropriate support vessels (like tenders or landing craft) or is it "everything, that floats"?
Also, maximum of 50 aircraft - does that include drones, helicopters and carrier aircraft?


I think a Nimitz-class carries something like 70 in a typical carrier air wing, but could have it be a reduced wing for various IC reasons. Amphibious assault ships also have their own air wings of around 10-20 aircraft of all types on average.
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