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The Most Thankless Job(An EU Election Thread)

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Who do you support?

EPP
5
10%
S&D
15
29%
ID
8
15%
Renew Europe
9
17%
ECR
2
4%
G/EFA
3
6%
The Left
8
15%
NIs
2
4%
 
Total votes : 52

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Postby Shrillland » Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:04 am

There's lots of votes happening in early June, and Belgium already has a thread of its own, so let's get ready for the Euro vote.

The European Parliament is up for a vote June 6-9 across the Union, and lots of European regions are having their votes to coincide with it, Belgium and Bulgaria are having general elections as well. First of all, this is set, according to Eurobarometer polls, to be the first EU election in some time to have a voter turnout of over 50% EU-wide. A big reason for this is the rise of the Right Tide flowing across the continent and the Far Left's counterflow. The issues are the same as in the individual countries, immigration, the economy, the environment, the East-West Divide and so on.

The Europarliament is made up of 720 seats from across the member nations. Luxembourg, Malta, and South Cyprus all tie for the least seats at six apiece, and Germany has the most at 96 seats. All members use some form of PR or STV, Belgium and the Netherlands allow proxy voting, Estonia lets you vote online, and many members have mail-in voting. Many of the EU parties have Spitzenkandidats(their leaders will be president of the European Commission if they win or form a coalition together), others do not. Right now, polls have the centre-right EPP leading and Germany's Ursula Von Der Leyen(CDU and long time right hand of former Chancellor Angela Merkel) getting a second term as President of the Commission.

So, let's meet the EU parties and their (more prominent)member affiliates(and a few non-EU members of these groups as well for reference)! All member lists will be alphabetical by country and include the major parties from most(not all)countries

European People's Party(EPP) led in Strasbourg by Manfred Weber(Germany/CSU): Centre-right, Christian Democratic, Liberal Conservative, Pro-Europe
Austria: ÖVP
Belgium: cd&v, LE
Bulgaria: GERB-SDS, DSB
Czechia: KDU-ČSL, TOP 09
Denmark: C
Finland: Kok, KD
France: LR
Germany: CDU/CSU
Greece: ND
Iceland(Non-EU): D
Ireland: FG
Italy: FI
Netherlands: CDA
Norway: H
Poland: PO, PSL
Portugal: AD
Romania: PNL, UMDSZ
Serbia(Non-EU): SNS
Spain: PP
Sweden: M, KD
Switzerland(Non-EU): The Centre


Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats(S&D), the Europarliament section of the Party of European Socialists(PES) led by Stefan Löfven(Sweden/S): Centre-left, Social Democratic, Progressive, Pro-Europe
Austria: SPÖ
Belgium: PS, Vooruit
Bulgaria: BSP
Czechia: SOCDEM
Denmark: A
Finland: SDP
France: PS
Germany: SPD
Greece: PASOK-KINAL
Hungary: DK, MSZP
Iceland(Non-EU): S
Ireland: Labour
Italy: PD
Netherlands: PvdA
Norway(Non-EU): Ap
Poland: NL
Portugal: PS
Romania: PSD
Serbia(Non-EU): DS
Spain: PSOE
Sweden: S
Switzerland(Non-EU): SP/PS
Turkey(Non-EU): CHP, DEM Party
United Kingdom(Non-EU): Labour, SDLP(Northern Ireland)


Identity and Democracy Party(ID) led by Marco Zinni(Italy/La Lega): Right to Far Right, Eurosceptic(more for decentralisation than outright dissolution), Right Populist, National Conservative
Austria: FPÖ
Belgium: VB
Czechia: SPD
Denmark: O
France: RN
Germany: AfD
Italy: La Lega
Netherlands: PVV
Portugal: Chega


Renew Europe, including the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats in Europe(ALDE) and the European Democratic Party(EDP), led by Valerie Hayer(France/Renaissance): Centre, Liberla, Social Liberal, Classical Liberal, Pro-Europe
Austria: NEOS
Belgium: Open VLD, MR
Bulgaria: DPS
Czechia: ANO 2011
Denmark: V, B
Finland: Kesk, SFP
France: MoDem
Germany: FDP
Hungary: Momentum
Iceland(Non-EU): C
Ireland: FF
Italy: Az, IV
Netherlands: VVD, D66
Norway(Non-EU): V
Poland: Modern
Portugal: IL
Romania: USR
Russia(Non-EU): Yabloko
Serbia(Non-EU): PSG
Spain: Cs, EAJ-PNV, CC
Sweden: C, L
Switzerland(Non-EU): FDP: The Liberals, GLP
Ukraine(Non-EU): Servant of the People, Holos
United Kingdom(Non-EU): Liberal Democrats, APNI(Northern Ireland)


European Conservatives and Reformists(ECR, also largest party in the Group) led in Strasbourg by Nicola Procaccini(Italy/FdI) and Ryszard Legutko(Poland/PiS): Right Wing, Soft Eurosceptic, National Conservative
Belgium: N-VA(technically part of the EFA, but works with the ECR Group)
Czechia: ODS
Finland: PS
Greece: EL
Italy: FdI
Poland: PiS, SP, Kukiz' 15
Spain: Vox
Sweden: SD


Greens/European Free Alliance(G/EFA) led by Philippe Lamberts(Belgium/Ecolo) and Terry Reintke(Germany/Greens): Centre-left to Left, Pro-Europe, Regionalism, Pirate Policy, Green Policy
Pan-European: Volt Europa
Austria: Die Grünen
Belgium: Ecolo, Groen
Czechia: Pirati
Denmark: F
Finland: Vihr
France: LE
Germany: The Greens
Hungary: Párbeszéd
Iceland(Non-EU): P
Ireland: Green Party
Italy: EV
Netherlands: GroenLinks
Portugal: LIVRE
Spain: ERC, BNG
Sweden: MP
Switzerland(Non-EU): GRÜNE
United Kingdom(Non-EU): Green Party(England and Wales), Scottish Greens, Green Party Northern Ireland, SNP, Plaid Cymru


The Left led by Manon Aubry(France/LFI) and Martin Schirdewan(Germany/Die Linke): Left to Far left, Environmentalist, Democratic Socialist, Soft Eurosceptic, Some Communists
Austria: KPÖ
Belgium: PTB-PVDA-PAB
Czechia: KSČM
Denmark: Ø, Å
Finland: Vas.
France: LFI
Germany: Die Linke
Greece: SYRIZA, NA
Iceland(Non-EU): VG
Ireland: SF
Netherlands: PvdD
Norway(Non-EU): SV, Rødt
Portugal: BE, PAN
Spain: Sumar
Sweden: V


Non-Inscrits(NI): Variable Politics
Greece: KKE
Hungary: Fidesz, Jobbik-Conservatives
Italy: M5S
Spain: Junts


And that's all of them. Pick your pick! I'm going, as usual for the Greens myself.
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Postby GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:12 am

Pro Fidesz and Prime Minister Viktor Orbán of Hungary.
Jobbik.

According to this link: But the main winners in the elections will be the populist right. The major winner will be the radical right Identity and Democracy (ID) group, which we expect to gain 40 seats and, with almost 100 MEPs, to emerge as the third largest group in the new parliament.

We also predict that the European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR) group will gain 18 seats. And, if Fidesz in Hungary (which we expect to win 14 seats) decides to join the ECR rather than to sit with the non-attached MEPs, the ECR could overtake RE and ID and become the third largest group.

https://ecfr.eu/publication/a-sharp-rig ... elections/

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Postby Shrillland » Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:33 pm

GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 wrote:Pro Fidesz and Prime Minister Viktor Orbán of Hungary.
Jobbik.

According to this link: But the main winners in the elections will be the populist right. The major winner will be the radical right Identity and Democracy (ID) group, which we expect to gain 40 seats and, with almost 100 MEPs, to emerge as the third largest group in the new parliament.

We also predict that the European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR) group will gain 18 seats. And, if Fidesz in Hungary (which we expect to win 14 seats) decides to join the ECR rather than to sit with the non-attached MEPs, the ECR could overtake RE and ID and become the third largest group.

https://ecfr.eu/publication/a-sharp-rig ... elections/

I am proud to be the first one to post on Shrillland 's thread.

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I can see ID up 25 seats, but 40's a bit of a stretch. As for Fidesz, they seem more content being a bridge between ID and ECR, and they are a more Eurosceptic bunch compared to a lot of their compatriots in the EU.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat May 04, 2024 5:56 pm

As an EPP supporter, I am pleasantly surprised to see a centre-right party leading an NS poll. Usually it seems like more NSG'ers support the left or right-wing populists.

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Postby Shrillland » Sat May 04, 2024 6:05 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:As an EPP supporter, I am pleasantly surprised to see a centre-right party leading an NS poll. Usually it seems like more NSG'ers support the left or right-wing populists.


Only eight people have voted on it so far, so it may just be a fluke.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sat May 04, 2024 6:09 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:As an EPP supporter, I am pleasantly surprised to see a centre-right party leading an NS poll. Usually it seems like more NSG'ers support the left or right-wing populists.


Only eight people have voted on it so far, so it may just be a fluke.


I’d vote for the parties associated with Socialists and Democrats.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 21, 2024 10:38 am

Apparently there's going to be twenty seven running here in Ireland Midlands-North-West. Gonna be unfurling my ballot like I'm reading a royal proclamation.
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Hopefully the National Party ( Ireland) will pick up some steam after June 7th and the get the ball rolling for a true nationalist populist movement going in Ireland again, since Sinn Fein's abandonment of the principle.

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Based Illinois wrote:Hopefully the National Party ( Ireland) will pick up some steam after June 7th and the get the ball rolling for a true nationalist populist movement going in Ireland again, since Sinn Fein's abandonment of the principle.

If it’s any assurance, I’m rooting for your irrelevant fascist party too.
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El Lazaro wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:Hopefully the National Party ( Ireland) will pick up some steam after June 7th and the get the ball rolling for a true nationalist populist movement going in Ireland again, since Sinn Fein's abandonment of the principle.

If it’s any assurance, I’m rooting for your irrelevant fascist party too.


We'll see how for much longer theyre irrelevant. With irish public opinion massively against immigration despite the established parties insistence, and recent success's in shooting down the hate speech law and constitutional amendment, there is some serious discontent growing among the Irish citizenry. Independent candidates are projected to do better this election cycle than they have in years.

Their telegram and Twittter pages are blowing up too, eith them at around a tenth of the followers of Sinm Fein on X. If they even get close to 10% of the vote on June 7th, it's going to a huge moment in Irish politics!
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 21, 2024 7:37 pm

Based Illinois wrote:Hopefully the National Party ( Ireland) will pick up some steam after June 7th and the get the ball rolling for a true nationalist populist movement going in Ireland again, since Sinn Fein's abandonment of the principle.

I wouldn't expect much from the Nazis who can't decide who their leader is and who can't keep a hold of their fortune in gold bars.
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Postby Based Illinois » Tue May 21, 2024 10:10 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:Hopefully the National Party ( Ireland) will pick up some steam after June 7th and the get the ball rolling for a true nationalist populist movement going in Ireland again, since Sinn Fein's abandonment of the principle.

I wouldn't expect much from the Nazis who can't decide who their leader is and who can't keep a hold of their fortune in gold bars.


The national party kicked out Barret for being an inept Hitlerian Jackass, then moved their gold assets to prevent him from stealing it. At least theyre preventing their party leadership from being run by corrupt asshats, unlike some other parties...

*cough*Ansbacher*cough*

Anyway, haven't you learned from France and Germany's example by now that trying to downplay the nationalists isn't working? Rember when everyone called the AfD and National Partei nazis? How'd that workout for yall?: the NP is the 2nd single largest party in the national assembly today, AfD is the 5th largest in the Bundestag and current polling suggests they're the 2nd most popular party in the country.

I would say that yall need new strategies, because just calling all your opponents nazis doesn't seem to be working like it used to - or don't, I'm perfectly fine with the current trend of patriotic revivals across Europe and America.
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Postby Liberal Malaysia » Wed May 22, 2024 1:56 am

Based Illinois wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:If it’s any assurance, I’m rooting for your irrelevant fascist party too.


We'll see how for much longer theyre irrelevant. With irish public opinion massively against immigration despite the established parties insistence, and recent success's in shooting down the hate speech law and constitutional amendment, there is some serious discontent growing among the Irish citizenry. Independent candidates are projected to do better this election cycle than they have in years.

Their telegram and Twittter pages are blowing up too, eith them at around a tenth of the followers of Sinm Fein on X. If they even get close to 10% of the vote on June 7th, it's going to a huge moment in Irish politics!


I hope you're right about Ireland. If the current crop of establishment parties is toppled, Ireland will abandon its bigoted anti-Israel stance. The same goes for Spain.

I'm looking forward to a right-wing tsunami that will sweep across Europe and (hopefully) the Americas. The anti-Islam PVV led by Geert Wilders is my favorite party by far. He is truly a man of courage and principle. The Europeans are poised to reject mass Muslim migration and the failure of Muslims to assimilate due to an unrestrained policy of multiculturalism, tackle an unprecedented wave of antisemitism and anti-Israel bigotry caused in part by mass Muslim migration, put an end to self-destructive Net Zero climate policies that will give Russia and China a competitive edge while screwing ordinary European farmers and other working-class people, and restore freedom of speech and expression and other civil liberties that have been eroded in recent years by those who believe it's preferable to "be kind" toward designated "protected categories" than to be honest, except toward Jews. Europe will project strength rather than weakness.

The corrupt, out-of-touch ruling class and their army of progressive activists, media mouthpieces, indoctrination camps AKA elite universities, and corporate and government DEI/ESG bureaucracies, all of which are waging war on Jews and ordinary non-Muslim Europeans, must be systematically and totally dismantled or reformed piecemeal. The swamp must be drained.

I'm rooting for a coalition of ID and ECR to put a spanner in the works. The "cordon sanitaire" against the "far-right" is beginning to collapse. Soon, the ruling class will pay for their arrogance.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 22, 2024 2:48 am

Based Illinois wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I wouldn't expect much from the Nazis who can't decide who their leader is and who can't keep a hold of their fortune in gold bars.


The national party kicked out Barret for being an inept Hitlerian Jackass, then moved their gold assets to prevent him from stealing it. At least theyre preventing their party leadership from being run by corrupt asshats, unlike some other parties...

Have they kicked him out? He's running under their name.

*cough*Ansbacher*cough*

Anyway, haven't you learned from France and Germany's example by now that trying to downplay the nationalists isn't working? Rember when everyone called the AfD and National Partei nazis? How'd that workout for yall?: the NP is the 2nd single largest party in the national assembly today, AfD is the 5th largest in the Bundestag and current polling suggests they're the 2nd most popular party in the country.

I would say that yall need new strategies, because just calling all your opponents nazis doesn't seem to be working like it used to - or don't, I'm perfectly fine with the current trend of patriotic revivals across Europe and America.

He quotes Hitler and dresses up in an SS uniform, I think it's an apt descriptor.
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Postby Based Illinois » Wed May 22, 2024 11:44 am

Ifreann wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:
The national party kicked out Barret for being an inept Hitlerian Jackass, then moved their gold assets to prevent him from stealing it. At least theyre preventing their party leadership from being run by corrupt asshats, unlike some other parties...

Have they kicked him out? He's running under their name.

*cough*Ansbacher*cough*

Anyway, haven't you learned from France and Germany's example by now that trying to downplay the nationalists isn't working? Rember when everyone called the AfD and National Partei nazis? How'd that workout for yall?: the NP is the 2nd single largest party in the national assembly today, AfD is the 5th largest in the Bundestag and current polling suggests they're the 2nd most popular party in the country.

I would say that yall need new strategies, because just calling all your opponents nazis doesn't seem to be working like it used to - or don't, I'm perfectly fine with the current trend of patriotic revivals across Europe and America.

He quotes Hitler and dresses up in an SS uniform, I think it's an apt descriptor.


Well that was explicitly one of the reasons why they kicked him out, in addition to being an inept mentally ill drunk.

As for the current party under Reynolds, they've been approved for Midlands Northwest and a mess of local elections.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 22, 2024 11:53 am

Based Illinois wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Have they kicked him out? He's running under their name.


He quotes Hitler and dresses up in an SS uniform, I think it's an apt descriptor.


Well that was explicitly one of the reasons why they kicked him out, in addition to being an inept mentally ill drunk.

As for the current party under Reynolds, they've been approved for Midlands Northwest and a mess of local elections.

Justin Barret is running in Midlands-North-West. As a candidate for the National Party. Clearly they haven't kicked him out very effectively.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 22, 2024 12:20 pm

Liberal Malaysia wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:
We'll see how for much longer theyre irrelevant. With irish public opinion massively against immigration despite the established parties insistence, and recent success's in shooting down the hate speech law and constitutional amendment, there is some serious discontent growing among the Irish citizenry. Independent candidates are projected to do better this election cycle than they have in years.

Their telegram and Twittter pages are blowing up too, eith them at around a tenth of the followers of Sinm Fein on X. If they even get close to 10% of the vote on June 7th, it's going to a huge moment in Irish politics!


I hope you're right about Ireland. If the current crop of establishment parties is toppled, Ireland will abandon its bigoted anti-Israel stance. The same goes for Spain.

I'm looking forward to a right-wing tsunami that will sweep across Europe and (hopefully) the Americas. The anti-Islam PVV led by Geert Wilders is my favorite party by far. He is truly a man of courage and principle. The Europeans are poised to reject mass Muslim migration and the failure of Muslims to assimilate due to an unrestrained policy of multiculturalism, tackle an unprecedented wave of antisemitism and anti-Israel bigotry caused in part by mass Muslim migration, put an end to self-destructive Net Zero climate policies that will give Russia and China a competitive edge while screwing ordinary European farmers and other working-class people, and restore freedom of speech and expression and other civil liberties that have been eroded in recent years by those who believe it's preferable to "be kind" toward designated "protected categories" than to be honest, except toward Jews. Europe will project strength rather than weakness.

The corrupt, out-of-touch ruling class and their army of progressive activists, media mouthpieces, indoctrination camps AKA elite universities, and corporate and government DEI/ESG bureaucracies, all of which are waging war on Jews and ordinary non-Muslim Europeans, must be systematically and totally dismantled or reformed piecemeal. The swamp must be drained.

I'm rooting for a coalition of ID and ECR to put a spanner in the works. The "cordon sanitaire" against the "far-right" is beginning to collapse. Soon, the ruling class will pay for their arrogance.

I’m sure the Irish National Party who’s leader quotes Hitler would be great for Irish Jews /s
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Postby Based Illinois » Wed May 22, 2024 1:10 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:
Well that was explicitly one of the reasons why they kicked him out, in addition to being an inept mentally ill drunk.

As for the current party under Reynolds, they've been approved for Midlands Northwest and a mess of local elections.

Justin Barret is running in Midlands-North-West. As a candidate for the National Party. Clearly they haven't kicked him out very effectively.


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The national register said he could run under the national party name, but without the party actually backing him, with no support, or any visible campaigning, bruv is basically running by himself.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 22, 2024 1:20 pm

Based Illinois wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Justin Barret is running in Midlands-North-West. As a candidate for the National Party. Clearly they haven't kicked him out very effectively.


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The national register said he could run under the national party name, but without the party actually backing him, with no support, or any visible campaigning, bruv is basically running by himself.

See, I feel like this undermines their credibility as an anti-immigration party. They can't keep this guy out of their party and they think they can keep foreigners out of the country?
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Based Illinois » Wed May 22, 2024 1:29 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:
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The national register said he could run under the national party name, but without the party actually backing him, with no support, or any visible campaigning, bruv is basically running by himself.

See, I feel like this undermines their credibility as an anti-immigration party. They can't keep this guy out of their party and they think they can keep foreigners out of the country?


Funny enough, the problem actually comes from the same source. The party did boot him out for his poor character - but the government is insisting they let Barret stay.

Forcing people to take on people who they really don't want to seems to be something the government really loves to do - hence why the National Party is running.

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Postby Shrillland » Wed May 22, 2024 11:24 pm

AfD's top Euro candidate forced to resign from party board and banned from future campaign appearances after he said,"Not all of the Waffen-SS were war criminals"

This is actually so severe that Marine Le Pen has said that France's RN is considering cutting its ties with AfD.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 23, 2024 11:28 am

Shrillland wrote:AfD's top Euro candidate forced to resign from party board and banned from future campaign appearances after he said,"Not all of the Waffen-SS were war criminals"

This is actually so severe that Marine Le Pen has said that France's RN is considering cutting its ties with AfD.

Damn the AfD can’t help themselves. Just recently a German court said that they could be considered an extremist party and then they go and say this. Pretty much proving the court right.

And RN might very well cut ties as cutting ties with Nazis is Le Pens entire MO for the rebrand
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Thu May 23, 2024 11:30 am

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