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[PASSED] Liberate Eclipsis

Postby New Makasta » Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:06 pm

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Link: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1712516559

The Security Council,

Recognizing the noble goals of the natives of Eclipsis, who carved out a place in the dawn of the Frontiers for democratic nations seeking a peaceful home,

Recognizing that darkness has befallen the region at the head of an invasion of by raider forces,

Understanding that these forces are nothing more than invaders seeking to destroy a peaceful and independent community,

Asserting that so long as raiders hold the region, the values that shine bright at the heart of Eclipsis’ community lie in peril,

Knowing that legislation by this body should accompany military action in order to mitigate the damage invaders can do to the region and stymie the ease with which raiders can permanently claim control over the region,

Hoping for the quick return of Eclipsis back to its native community, so that it may continue to thrive free from occupation or harm,

Hereby Liberates Eclipsis

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Postby Refuge Isle » Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:11 pm

Marked as legal, but noting that I observed a likely unintentional "of by" in the second "Recognizing" clause, if that matters to you.

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Postby Reventus Koth » Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:51 pm

Refuge Isle wrote:Marked as legal, but noting that I observed a likely unintentional "of by" in the second "Recognizing" clause, if that matters to you.

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Lol 3 sets of eyes can't proofread 100 characters.
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Postby Kinqueven » Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:06 pm

At this point, defenders don't defend.
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Postby All Wild Things » Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:45 am

Fachumonn wrote:Lol 3 sets of eyes can't proofread 100 characters.

...or the thread title. Though "Liberatie Eclipsis" does have a nice ring to it. It sounds like the title of a Eurovision entry.
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Postby Bhadeshistan » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:34 am

Kinqueven wrote:At this point, defenders don't defend.

Fr fr, at this point the defender community has fallen so down so hard like Biden’s approval ratings

It’s a bailout at this point, support though, but my point is point; defenders are lazy and always use the SC to make up for their laziness

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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:20 am

I would support it, but I question why every small region that gets raided should get a liberation. Just play by the game instead of asking the SC for a bailout, then go for a liberation if nothing else works.
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Postby Comfed » Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:35 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:I would support it, but I question why every small region that gets raided should get a liberation. Just play by the game instead of asking the SC for a bailout, then go for a liberation if nothing else works.

It's quite interesting how these things work sometimes! Liberate the region using the military game mechanic - fine. But liberate the region using the WA game mechanic - now you're just not playing "by the game," whatever that means. :lol2:
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Postby Fort Viorlia » Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:40 pm

Nowadays, (and I’m pretty sure for a long time now) Liberations (or libjunctions for that matter) are ineffective at doing anything.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:42 pm

Comfed wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:I would support it, but I question why every small region that gets raided should get a liberation. Just play by the game instead of asking the SC for a bailout, then go for a liberation if nothing else works.

It's quite interesting how these things work sometimes! Liberate the region using the military game mechanic - fine. But liberate the region using the WA game mechanic - now you're just not playing "by the game," whatever that means. :lol2:

After the whole Realm of the Whispering Winds fiasco, one has to wonder what's the primary strategy for defenders.
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Postby Nu Elysium » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:45 pm

do defenders even do anything? seems like every week or so there's a new region that's been raided, and a new SC proposal to liberate it imo.
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Postby Vleerian » Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:03 am

Comfed wrote:It's quite interesting how these things work sometimes! Liberate the region using the military game mechanic - fine. But liberate the region using the WA game mechanic - now you're just not playing "by the game," whatever that means. :lol2:

Because these rubber-stamped mad libs don't give natives their regions back. A military liberation does.

Was this not obvious?
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Postby Comfed » Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:20 pm

Vleerian wrote:
Comfed wrote:It's quite interesting how these things work sometimes! Liberate the region using the military game mechanic - fine. But liberate the region using the WA game mechanic - now you're just not playing "by the game," whatever that means. :lol2:

Because these rubber-stamped mad libs don't give natives their regions back. A military liberation does.

Was this not obvious?

Outer Sparta implied that liberating a region via the SC isn't playing "by the game" - and I was just pointing out that it obviously is.

And you can complain about these liberations being rubber-stamped all you like, but assembling a durable coalition of people who will regularly vote for your WA resolutions is just as "by the game" as finding 150 people to put their WA nations in a region for a week.

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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:18 pm

Comfed wrote:
Vleerian wrote:Because these rubber-stamped mad libs don't give natives their regions back. A military liberation does.

Was this not obvious?

Outer Sparta implied that liberating a region via the SC isn't playing "by the game" - and I was just pointing out that it obviously is.

And you can complain about these liberations being rubber-stamped all you like, but assembling a durable coalition of people who will regularly vote for your WA resolutions is just as "by the game" as finding 150 people to put their WA nations in a region for a week.

I'm not surprised it's a TNPer that's trying to argue that glorified policy LARP is just as gameplay as Gameplay. =P
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Postby Fachumonn » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:42 am

It looks like both of these are going to miss quorum?
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Postby Comfed » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:35 pm

Angeloid Astraea wrote:
Comfed wrote:Outer Sparta implied that liberating a region via the SC isn't playing "by the game" - and I was just pointing out that it obviously is.

And you can complain about these liberations being rubber-stamped all you like, but assembling a durable coalition of people who will regularly vote for your WA resolutions is just as "by the game" as finding 150 people to put their WA nations in a region for a week.

I'm not surprised it's a TNPer that's trying to argue that glorified policy LARP is just as gameplay as Gameplay. =P

And in turn, I am not surprised that someone from a region that only has raiding going for it, is trying to argue that some parts of gameplay don't count, actually :P

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Postby Omnicontrol » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:40 pm

Comfed wrote:
Angeloid Astraea wrote:I'm not surprised it's a TNPer that's trying to argue that glorified policy LARP is just as gameplay as Gameplay. =P

And in turn, I am not surprised that someone from a region that only has raiding going for it, is trying to argue that some parts of gameplay don't count, actually :P

out of all the raider regions you could've thrown this at sparkalia is arguably the most roleplayer one out of them, bar lotd maybe.
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:59 pm

Omnicontrol wrote:
Comfed wrote:And in turn, I am not surprised that someone from a region that only has raiding going for it, is trying to argue that some parts of gameplay don't count, actually :P

out of all the raider unity regions you could've thrown this at sparkalia is arguably the most roleplayer one out of them, bar lotd maybe.

Some responses are too out of touch to be worth responding to. Comfed's about Sparkalia is one of them. I appreciate it, though, Omni. =P
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Postby Osheiga » Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:38 pm

Just want to share that I believe this is currently being quorum raided. I had approved this proposal and in response received this telegram on Thursday from Fresonic, who I assume is a puppet considering they were only recently refounded and have not joined the World Assembly/had any other recent happenings that would suggest this was a main account.
Hello. I am reaching out today as a concerned citizen of the world. It has become clear to me that defenders are not willing to support natives in any meaningful way. Time and time again they rely on the Security Council to do their dirty work. It is not fair to us that they sit back on their thrones of shiny badges and medals instead of actually protecting us.

Even in their most recent proposal they wrote

Knowing that legislation by this body should accompany military action in order to mitigate the damage invaders can do to the region and stymie the ease with which raiders can permanently claim control over the region,


Despite this “promise”, Defenders failed to deliver. They mustered less than half the force of the invaders on the first day and promptly gave up after a single try. Defenders need to be shown we are unapproving of their poor efforts, but also unapproving of their measly begs for saving their necks.

I implore you unapprove the proposal “Liberate Eclipsis”
page=UN_view_proposal/id=new_makasta_1712516559


After not responding to the above telegram, I was knocked out of my delegacy during minor update today by what appears to be some of the same organizations that are currently occupying Eclipsis. No actual damage has been done to my region or anything, but I feel this is suspicious behavior and suggests foul play by some of the people campaigning against this proposal. I personally will be voting 'for' once this gets to vote, mostly out of spite.
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:39 pm

Osheiga wrote:I personally will be voting 'for' once this gets to vote, mostly out of spite.

That's valid! =]
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Postby Osheiga » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:56 am

Angeloid Astraea wrote:
Osheiga wrote:I personally will be voting 'for' once this gets to vote, mostly out of spite.

That's valid! =]

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Postby Lans Isles » Wed May 01, 2024 9:15 am

Voting for, even though I was banned from there, I want to get back on good terms.
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