[PASSED] Liberate Eclipsis

[Nova Vinelandia]

Knowing that legislation by this body should accompany military action in order to mitigate the damage invaders can do to the region and stymie the ease with which raiders can permanently claim control over the region.

So glad to see this came true. Just in time to give us our shiny badge though!

[Aleena Connolly]

Thank the heavens that the evil intentions of this proposal failed to materialize. Pass it or do not. It no longer matters.

[The Ever-Wanderer]

The security council may legislate that military action should accompany its Liberations all it likes, but if its members do not actually take up arms and fight, then it means nothing.

At least we've saved this body the trouble of passing this, repealing it, watching the region get re-raided, passing it again, then repealing it again. It would be silly if we ever had to do that, right?

[New Westmore]

Defenders and the MGC are like the modern-day United Nations: a weak and ineffective force that only has power because people view its name in a positive light, and nothing more. My time in NPA has only shown me how wrong I was to believe that modern-day defending is as chivalrous, as good-hearted, and most of all effective as it once was. Fuck me, the Philippines literally got reclaimed a short while ago after the defenders left!

This lib will achieve nothing in the long run, just as every other SC proposal of this kind has. I have seen enough of these to know that nothing ever comes of it and nothing will come of it. Raiding may be shitty and all but the way it is handled by defenders now? That's just a shame, especially since they're quite literally supposed to be the antithesis to raiding.

In any way, I hope the natives of Eclipsis can start anew elsewhere on the site. I hope that they can move on beyond this and rebuild, stronger than before. It may hurt to lose a region, but that is just one of the risks you take building one on NS.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Have changed my vote to “Against” due to the region’s changed circumstances. I would suggest others do the same.

[Zlavoria]

Personally I voted to liberate Eclipsis because Raiders just sound like annoying squeaky brats who can take a regions history away with 1 raid

[Reventus Koth]

Personally I voted to liberate Eclipsis because Raiders just sound like annoying squeaky brats who can take a regions history away with 1 raid

Only because players like you would rather throw around petty insults than actually put your WA nation where your mouth is. If even a handful of your kind stepped up and tried to stop us, it is highly likely that the stretch goal of total region destruction could have been avoided.

This kind of operational victory is the product of inaction by armchair defenders, not mechanical bias towards raiders. Go become a defender or don't bother acting tough on the forum. Could go join The Grey Wardens, I hear that the barrier to Warden-Lieutenant has never been lower.

[Hiybkk]

Eh, sure, late but sure, why not

[Rosartemis]

Full support, I think the region should be liberated from raider hands.

[Neo-Hermitius]

For since the region has a password. But Libjuctions are stupid and should be replaced with a system of defenders saying "raider no raidy" 3 times a day to stop raids

[Cyptopir]

Full support, I think the region should be liberated from raider hands.

Yes, we need to liberate it from the evil raidas!!!11!1!1!! Liberations just kick out the raiders, right??? /j

[Saturn Military Administration]

Against

It just seems like another defender Liberation + Injunction to add to the pile that I honestly could not be bothered to support.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Full support, I think the region should be liberated from raider hands.

Yes, we need to liberate it from the evil raidas!!!11!1!1!! Liberations just kick out the raiders, right??? /j

No, they just remove the WA Delegate imposed password.

This Liberation will have no such effect as there is no WA Delegate and the Governor has set the password. By supporting this you will be giving a shiny badge to the raiders.

I see that TSP’s Delegate has already switched their vote to “Against”.

[Improper Classifications]

/j

No, they just remove the WA Delegate imposed password.

This Liberation will have no such effect as there is no WA Delegate and the Governor has set the password. By supporting this you will be giving a shiny badge to the raiders.

You seem to have missed Cypto's /j. I've expanded it to four times the size for you.

[Thal Dorthat]

Full support. The raidas should be kicked out!!!!!11222 The raider menace must be stoppeded!!!!!!11

Yes, we need to liberate it from the evil raidas!!!11!1!1!! Liberations just kick out the raiders, right??? /j

No, they just remove the WA Delegate imposed password.

This Liberation will have no such effect as there is no WA Delegate and the Governor has set the password. By supporting this you will be giving a shiny badge to the raiders.

I see that TSP’s Delegate has already switched their vote to “Against”.

Us raiders want shiny badges! I like shiny badges. You should give us a shiny badge.

[Anonymegg]

It's quite interesting how these things work sometimes! Liberate the region using the military game mechanic - fine. But liberate the region using the WA game mechanic - now you're just not playing "by the game," whatever that means.

Because these rubber-stamped mad libs don't give natives their regions back. A military liberation does.

Was this not obvious?

Look at Warzone Asia's WFE and you'll hate its delegate forever

[Th3 Galactic Empire]

Author: New Makasta
Link: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1712516559

The Security Council,

Recognizing the noble goals of the natives of Eclipsis, who carved out a place in the dawn of the Frontiers for democratic nations seeking a peaceful home,

Recognizing that darkness has befallen the region at the head of an invasion of by raider forces,

Understanding that these forces are nothing more than invaders seeking to destroy a peaceful and independent community,

Asserting that so long as raiders hold the region, the values that shine bright at the heart of Eclipsis’ community lie in peril,

Knowing that legislation by this body should accompany military action in order to mitigate the damage invaders can do to the region and stymie the ease with which raiders can permanently claim control over the region,

Hoping for the quick return of Eclipsis back to its native community, so that it may continue to thrive free from occupation or harm,

Hereby Liberates Eclipsis

Co-Authors: vorhollah and westinor

This is not our nation's problem this doesn't involve me and neither will my empire get involved in this. it may be sad raiders have occupied an area but that's on them, A strong military will protect them. I would how however be happy to send a few legions of Stormtroopers over.

[Tricorniolis]

It is not at all reassuring to see the grand fall of the defender community. Given that the invader Governor has already removed all authority from the WA Delegate, what much good will a Libjunction do? And as soon as the defence retreats the invasion will occur once again. Seeing how half-hearted the initial efforts were, can the region really be saved again?

[Wascoitan]

It is not at all reassuring to see the grand fall of the defender community. Given that the invader Governor has already removed all authority from the WA Delegate, what much good will a Libjunction do? And as soon as the defence retreats the invasion will occur once again. Seeing how half-hearted the initial efforts were, can the region really be saved again?

To honestly answer this question: no. It can no longer be saved. The way r/d works once the raiders have the governor it's game over for a region. no WA proposal is able to remove us.

[Donald t]

I am just against all raider regions

[Improper Classifications]

Sir another resolution has hit Eclipsis

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Liberate Eclipsis was passed 6,797 votes to 5,666.

[Vleerian]

Look at Warzone Asia's WFE and you'll hate its delegate forever

I'd love for you to TG an explanation of what I'm meant to take issue with, seeing as this proposal has nothing to do with WZAsia

Anyway, very exciting to see the liberation badge on Eclipsis next to a raider governor, and a raider flag. Get your wayback machine snapshots in.