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The Great Heldervinian Civil War OOC

Postby Heldervin » Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:17 am

Lord Chaburteen XIV sat down in his office. Moments later, he saw an all-out brawl out his window between a slavemaster and her slaves. The monarch stands up, fuming, and says, "Why, those CSL bigots have inspired our slaves! Lanzo. Lanzo! LANZO, PICK UP THE PHONE!

Meanwhile, Lanzo Stromann VIII, the Military Advisor, finally awakes from his slumber and notices the phone ringing. He answers, mildly annoyed that his midday nap was interrupted. The conversation went something like this:

Lord Chaburteen: I have news for you.

Lanzo: Oh boy.

Lord Chaburteen: The slaves are revolting.

Lanzo: WHAT! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! EXECUTE THE LOT OF THEM! THIS IS WAR!

And so the House of Monarchs and the House of Ministers and Advisors met, and collectively agreed that this was an act of treason. And so war was declared on all revolting slaves, and so MORE slaves revolted. These slaves call themselves the "Liberated Peoples of New Heldervinia", openly opposing the Superior Monarchy rather, violently, to say the least. What has the CSL done!?!?!

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Postby European Federal Union » Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:51 am

OOC: Maybe you didnt saw it, but the ban of fertiliser imports was more of a ressitrction, and all farms have been nationalised but they are still able to get fertiliser. It just restricted nermal civilians and Heldervinians to get fertilizer, so they cant use it to make bombs/explosive material or rocket fuel
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Postby European Federal Union » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:18 am

Heldervin wrote:The convoy holding the 300 helderbus would be about half the distance from the border checkpoint.

"In a half-kilometer, take the exit onto Lake Annabel Road, Heldervinian Route 18 East, T-45 North."

The driver would turn on his microphone. "Halfway there boys. Once we pass through, these helderbus can mate." The occasional pothole seemed to not bother the helderbus within.


Could I get a response to the air attacks?
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Postby Heldervin » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:19 am

European Federal Union wrote:
Heldervin wrote:The convoy holding the 300 helderbus would be about half the distance from the border checkpoint.

"In a half-kilometer, take the exit onto Lake Annabel Road, Heldervinian Route 18 East, T-45 North."

The driver would turn on his microphone. "Halfway there boys. Once we pass through, these helderbus can mate." The occasional pothole seemed to not bother the helderbus within.


Could I get a response to the air attacks?

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Postby European Federal Union » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:26 am

What kind of an EMP is it, a Nuclear or a Non-Nuclear EMP?
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Postby Heldervin » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:42 am

European Federal Union wrote:What kind of an EMP is it, a Nuclear or a Non-Nuclear EMP?

Non-nuclear

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Postby European Federal Union » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:43 am

Heldervin wrote:
European Federal Union wrote:What kind of an EMP is it, a Nuclear or a Non-Nuclear EMP?

Non-nuclear


Alr, kinda assumed that due to the rule tho I just wanted to make sure
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Postby Heldervin » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:52 am

European Federal Union wrote:
Heldervin wrote:Realizing the error in grounding the aircraft, all military and commercial planes were ordered to take flight. Although most survived, some 20 aircraft were downed or destroyed while out of action, primarily the ones near the border.

SIC: The Superior Monarchy took this as an act of war, and, justifying that the EFU slaughtered helderbus, a vulnerable species, mercilessly, and attacked the nation, construction began underground of a biological weapon.


OOC: How many aircraft does Heldervins airforce have left, after the previous war?

Hmm... take away 4, add 2 to the power of 2, carry the 8, plus 17, divided by 13, times 3 to the power of 3... some 12,482 left.

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Postby European Federal Union » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:56 am

Heldervin wrote:
European Federal Union wrote:
OOC: How many aircraft does Heldervins airforce have left, after the previous war?

Hmm... take away 4, add 2 to the power of 2, carry the 8, plus 17, divided by 13, times 3 to the power of 3... some 12,482 left.


And how many of these are comabt aircraft?

And where would they land if all/most of Heldervins airbases and airports have already been bombed, they would just run out of fuel after a few hours and crash back into the ground.

Also being able to bring up over 10,000 aircraft within just a few minutes also gives off strong godmodding vibes
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Postby Assassins BrotherHoodd » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:58 am

European Federal Union wrote:
Heldervin wrote:Hmm... take away 4, add 2 to the power of 2, carry the 8, plus 17, divided by 13, times 3 to the power of 3... some 12,482 left.


And how many of these are comabt aircraft?

And where would they land if all/most of Heldervins airbases and airports have already been bombed, they would just run out of fuel after a few hours and crash back into the ground.

Also being able to bring up over 10,000 aircraft within just a few minutes also gives off strong godmodding vibes


During the war, I bombed the shit out of their airbases.And most of their air they had, was shot down .It sounds like they, gave themselves 30k plus aircraft…
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Postby Heldervin » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:01 am

European Federal Union wrote:
Heldervin wrote:Hmm... take away 4, add 2 to the power of 2, carry the 8, plus 17, divided by 13, times 3 to the power of 3... some 12,482 left.


And how many of these are comabt aircraft?

And where would they land if all/most of Heldervins airbases and airports have already been bombed, they would just run out of fuel after a few hours and crash back into the ground.

Also being able to bring up over 10,000 aircraft within just a few minutes also gives off strong godmodding vibes

I never said that they all managed to get into the air. I also never said that they all managed to land. After the previous war only, that's the amount left, not counting what you just did. After what you just did, that's some 7,732 left. All of those are combat. It's some 163 that are commercial.

Eh, we have empty space.
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European Federal Union wrote:
And how many of these are comabt aircraft?

And where would they land if all/most of Heldervins airbases and airports have already been bombed, they would just run out of fuel after a few hours and crash back into the ground.

Also being able to bring up over 10,000 aircraft within just a few minutes also gives off strong godmodding vibes


During the war, I bombed the shit out of their airbases.And most of their air they had, was shot down .It sounds like they, gave themselves 30k plus aircraft…

I... don't recall that. Show me the relevant post.

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Postby Assassins BrotherHoodd » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:04 am

Heldervin wrote:
European Federal Union wrote:
And how many of these are comabt aircraft?

And where would they land if all/most of Heldervins airbases and airports have already been bombed, they would just run out of fuel after a few hours and crash back into the ground.

Also being able to bring up over 10,000 aircraft within just a few minutes also gives off strong godmodding vibes

I never said that they all managed to get into the air. I also never said that they all managed to land. After the previous war only, that's the amount left, not counting what you just did. After what you just did, that's some 7,732 left. All of those are combat. It's some 163 that are commercial.

Eh, we have empty space.
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During the war, I bombed the shit out of their airbases.And most of their air they had, was shot down .It sounds like they, gave themselves 30k plus aircraft…

I... don't recall that. Show me the relevant post.



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Postby European Federal Union » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:06 am

Heldervin wrote:
European Federal Union wrote:
And how many of these are comabt aircraft?

And where would they land if all/most of Heldervins airbases and airports have already been bombed, they would just run out of fuel after a few hours and crash back into the ground.

Also being able to bring up over 10,000 aircraft within just a few minutes also gives off strong godmodding vibes

I never said that they all managed to get into the air. I also never said that they all managed to land. After the previous war only, that's the amount left, not counting what you just did. After what you just did, that's some 7,732 left. All of those are combat. It's some 163 that are commercial.

Eh, we have empty space.


Well, you kind confused me with just 20 being lost implying that the rest managed to get away and survive which is reinforced by you saying most survived, tho my bad for asking the wrong question

Tho military aircraft cant just land on empty space, doing that would servely damage them and require major up to month long overhals to get them combat ready again, or just outright render them unsuable. Which is the reason why we use runways in the first place
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Postby Heldervin » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:09 am

European Federal Union wrote:
Heldervin wrote:I never said that they all managed to get into the air. I also never said that they all managed to land. After the previous war only, that's the amount left, not counting what you just did. After what you just did, that's some 7,732 left. All of those are combat. It's some 163 that are commercial.

Eh, we have empty space.


Well, you kind confused me with just 20 being lost implying that the rest managed to get away and survive which is reinforced by you saying most survived, tho my bad for asking the wrong question

Tho military aircraft cant just land on empty space, doing that would servely damage them and require major up to month long overhals to get them combat ready again, or just outright render them unsuable. Which is the reason why we use runways in the first place

True. But if they did land on emptiness, they would slow down considerably to minimize such damage. Also, Heldervin has largely flat land, so it's not as if it would be as damaging as say, a landing on a mountain.

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Postby European Federal Union » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:14 am

Heldervin wrote:
European Federal Union wrote:
Well, you kind confused me with just 20 being lost implying that the rest managed to get away and survive which is reinforced by you saying most survived, tho my bad for asking the wrong question

Tho military aircraft cant just land on empty space, doing that would servely damage them and require major up to month long overhals to get them combat ready again, or just outright render them unsuable. Which is the reason why we use runways in the first place

True. But if they did land on emptiness, they would slow down considerably to minimize such damage. Also, Heldervin has largely flat land, so it's not as if it would be as damaging as say, a landing on a mountain.


No, the issue is more that military aircraft are generally quite heavy both transport/auxillery and fighting ones, and they would be slowed down extremely fast while the ground creates alot of friction on them. All of that and the quick trauma shock from the rough landing would cause major and I mean major major damage to the aircraft. Tho the pilots would most likely survive
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Postby Heldervin » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:18 am

European Federal Union wrote:
Heldervin wrote:True. But if they did land on emptiness, they would slow down considerably to minimize such damage. Also, Heldervin has largely flat land, so it's not as if it would be as damaging as say, a landing on a mountain.


No, the issue is more that military aircraft are generally quite heavy both transport/auxillery and fighting ones, and they would be slowed down extremely fast while the ground creates alot of friction on them. All of that and the quick trauma shock from the rough landing would cause major and I mean major major damage to the aircraft. Tho the pilots would most likely survive

The part about heavy military craft might apply to older Heldervinian aircraft, but, unlike the navy, aircraft are regularly replaced. The fighters, which constitute the majority, along with stealth and recon jets, are smaller planes that rely on burning fuel rather than using propellers. It's only the bombers that use propellers, and, consequentially, are bigger aircraft, and transport ones as well.

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Postby Heldervin » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:22 am

European Federal Union wrote:The media also publicises daily death counts on helderbu attacks, talking each day about 80-100 Heldervinian civilians which have been killed in such attacks, and showing footage of Commonwealth troops using traps and sleeping gas to capture Helderbus instead of ussing leathal force to kill them.

OOC: ngl, that some prime propaganda material

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Postby Kostane » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:24 am

Out of interest, how would Ame3KO8 affect the EFU soldiers? Would it trigger increased aggressiveness in them as well or does it target an organ unique to Helderbus?
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Postby European Federal Union » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:25 am

Kostane wrote:Out of interest, how would Ame3KO8 affect the EFU soldiers? Would it trigger increased aggressiveness in them as well or does it target an organ unique to Helderbus?


It would trigger their Gas masks, as well as chemical warfare recivers (bassicaly airfilters which check the air for substances which are not supposed to be in it)
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Postby Heldervin » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:28 am

European Federal Union wrote:
Kostane wrote:Out of interest, how would Ame3KO8 affect the EFU soldiers? Would it trigger increased aggressiveness in them as well or does it target an organ unique to Helderbus?


It would trigger their Gas masks, as well as chemical warfare recivers (bassicaly airfilters which check the air for substances which are not supposed to be in it)

Also, it is exclusive to helderbus. It's some part of their brain that's unique to them. Millions of Helds are being poured into further research.

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Postby European Federal Union » Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:42 am

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European Federal Union wrote:snip

OOC: Yes. And I must reiterate that helderbus are powerful. And, we don't want to be smitten either.

Besides, dogs attack their owners sometimes, yet many love them.


OOC: Dogs are loved by their owners, but not celibrated as a devine being, as an example cats (the small ones not their bigger cousins) or cows which are way more passive creatures and celibrated even by many religions a big reason of which is that they dont kill humans.

Also how smart/educated is the average Heldervinian?
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Postby Heldervin » Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:57 am

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Heldervin wrote:OOC: Yes. And I must reiterate that helderbus are powerful. And, we don't want to be smitten either.

Besides, dogs attack their owners sometimes, yet many love them.


OOC: Dogs are loved by their owners, but not celibrated as a devine being, as an example cats (the small ones not their bigger cousins) or cows which are way more passive creatures and celibrated even by many religions a big reason of which is that they dont kill humans.

Also how smart/educated is the average Heldervinian?

Heldervinians have, on average, an IQ of 105. It is considered law that everyone graduates high school.

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Postby European Federal Union » Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:00 am

Heldervin wrote:Heldervinians have, on average, an IQ of 105. It is considered law that everyone graduates high school.


And what about citical/indepdenent thinking skills, like the ability to question the surroundings and disagree with the popular narrative?
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