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Peace negotiations for the great Heldervinian civil war

Postby Arzastan » Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:13 am

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After the Bloody war in Heldervin and Cowardly use of biological weapons by someone who we don't know , The Federal Republic of Arzastan would be glad to host negotiations for peace and decision to what to do with The ruined and humilated nation of Heldervin in it's capital city of Arzagaan. For start, please Introduce your Agent in the negotiations and mention the side (or sides) you were supporting in the war.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:42 am

The Marajarbian Representative, Robert Thompson, would arrive. Marajarbia was supporting the rebels as one of the many nations from the CSL.
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Postby Assassins BrotherHoodd » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:07 am

The Luxembourgish, rep would walk in , Luxembourg is supporting the rebels.
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Postby Terra Magnifica Gloria » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:35 am

The Magnificent Glorian representative, Johnathan Jonestaat, enters the room. We supported the superior monarchy during the civil war.
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Postby Kostane » Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:17 am

Vice-Admiral Elli Port enters the room for Kostane. Technically we supported the rebels, but we want retribution for the destruction caused to Kostan citizens.
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Postby Arzastan » Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:46 am

Arzenese representative, Daryā Ādzāre, is waiting for them. We didn't involved in the war, but we technically supported LPNH although we recognized superior monarchy.
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Postby Camtropia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:01 am

The Camtropian CSL ambassador, James Maxwell, enters the room. Although Camtropia only sent troops to support the LPNH when the war was basically over, they had previously embargoed Heldervin and sent funds to the LPNH.

Camtropia was affected by residue from Heldervin's use of chemical weapons, but a fortunate wind change prevented the fallout from the WMD launched at the end of the war by unknown parties from entering Camtropia.

James Maxwell has three goals. In order of priority:

1: obtain reparations from Heldervin to pay for the damage caused by their chemical weapons

2: find out who launched the WMD strike that ended the war, and why

3: try to establish some form of stable democratic government in Heldervin, to prevent this happening again
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Postby Kostane » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:04 am

Camtropia wrote:The Camtropia CSL ambassador, James Maxwell, enters the room. Although Camtropia only sent troops to support the LPNH when the war was basically over, they had previously embargoed Heldervin and sent funds to the LPNH.

Camtropia was affected by residue from Heldervin's use of chemical weapons, but a fortunate wind change prevented the fallout from the WMD launched at the end of the war by unknown parties from entering Camtropia.

James Maxwell has three goals. In order of priority:

1: obtain reparations from Heldervin to pay for the damage caused by their chemical weapons

2: find out who launched the WMD strike that ended the war, and why

3: try to establish some form of stable democratic government in Heldervin, to prevent this happening again

Elli Port has two goals, in order of importance:
1. Gain substantial amount of influence / control.

2. Disguise Kostane’s intentions.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:10 am

Camtropia wrote:The Camtropia CSL ambassador, James Maxwell, enters the room. Although Camtropia only sent troops to support the LPNH when the war was basically over, they had previously embargoed Heldervin and sent funds to the LPNH.

Camtropia was affected by residue from Heldervin's use of chemical weapons, but a fortunate wind change prevented the fallout from the WMD launched at the end of the war by unknown parties from entering Camtropia.

James Maxwell has three goals. In order of priority:

1: obtain reparations from Heldervin to pay for the damage caused by their chemical weapons

2: find out who launched the WMD strike that ended the war, and why

3: try to establish some form of stable democratic government in Heldervin, to prevent this happening again


Marajarbia has similar goals as Camtropia, especially when it comes to reparations and the establishment of a democratic government in the region. While Marajarbia was not impacted by the chemical weapons, Heldervin’s slave trade was one of the causes which started the war, and Heldervin must pay for its policies that allowed for the slave trade to exist in the first place.
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Postby Arzastan » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:12 am

And these are Ādzāre's goals:
•Create an stable government in Heldervin by keeping superior monarchy as a ceremonial thing but giving the main power to LPNH
•Find out who started the biological weapons crap(prove that it was Janpia)
•prevent Heldervin's territorial and Economic lose as much as possible
gain some legitimate influence and in Heldervin
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Postby Arzastan » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:18 am

Kunskil asked me to send their goals:
1. Find out who was behind this war prove that it was Marajarbia
2. End slavery
3. Gain the majority buddhist part of the nation
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Postby Camtropia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:33 am

Maxwell gives a short speech:

"Due to Heldervin's chemical weapons, the cost to Camtropia in both lost agricultural productivity and expensive relief efforts has been substantial. But with the current situation, there doesn't seem to be much of a state or economy left to take reparations from. Fortunately, I have another idea.

Forgive me for not being an expert, but what sort of natural resources does Heldervin have? Oil, steel, aluminium, copper, gold? Perhaps Camtropia could temporarily gain resource rights in some regions of Heldervin, until the debt has been paid?"
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Postby Arzastan » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:37 am

"to agree or disagree your offer, we should know Heldervin's opinion. Would any representive from Superior monarchy or LPNH come to this negotiations, or they are all victims of the illness?"
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:38 am

Camtropia wrote:Maxwell gives a short speech:

"Due to Heldervin's chemical weapons, the cost to Camtropia in both lost agricultural productivity and expensive relief efforts has been substantial. But with the current situation, there doesn't seem to be much of a state or economy left to take reparations from. Fortunately, I have another idea.

Forgive me for not being an expert, but what sort of natural resources does Heldervin have? Oil, steel, aluminium, copper, gold? Perhaps Camtropia could temporarily gain resource rights in some regions of Heldervin, until the debt has been paid?"


“Marajarbia would also like to receive reparations in the form of resources. These resources will be put to good use in the long reconstruction process of the region. Corporations such as the Marajarbian Construction and Shipping Group specialize in large-scale infrastructure construction with locally hired staff, workers settlements which could grow into their own new towns and cities, high-speed railway networks, and deep water ports. We can work hard to accomplish these things with these resources, as well as a democratic Heldervin.”
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Postby Arzastan » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:42 am

"we all should understand that before thinking of our nation's benefits, we should think of restoring Heldervin and somehow saving it's innocent people from this plague. Sure if we establish a democratic government in Heldervin this goals would be achieved at some part, but before anything, we should think about the people of Heldervin."
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Postby Kostane » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:45 am

Arzastan wrote:"we all should understand that before thinking of our nation's benefits, we should think of restoring Heldervin and somehow saving it's innocent people from this plague. Sure if we establish a democratic government in Heldervin this goals would be achieved at some part, but before anything, we should think about the people of Heldervin.

“I agree, I believe that retaining some sort of monarchy would be most beneficial to the survival of Heldervin. We also must not let this become a scramble for territory like what Luxembourg and the EFU have done with their occupations.”
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:46 am

Arzastan wrote:"we all should understand that before thinking of our nation's benefits, we should think of restoring Heldervin and somehow saving it's innocent people from this plague. Sure if we establish a democratic government in Heldervin this goals would be achieved at some part, but before anything, we should think about the people of Heldervin.


“My point exactly. We can help the Heldervinian people through two ways, a CSL-enforced Democratic Republic of Heldervin, and cooperative foreign investment agreements, allowing all Heldervinians to have a job and to engage in a normal life in a Heldervin without slavery.”
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Postby Arzastan » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:52 am

Foreign minister of Kunskil, Muhhamad Al-Abbas said
“ Kunskil will not allow the extraction of natural resources from Heldervin. We should instead each take a small piece of land and instate a democratic government which will eventually pay of the debt. I also call for Heldervin to stop discriminating the Buddhist and Muslim population in Heldervin. Thank you”
Ādzāre's answers:
" Unfortunately, Heldervin doesn't have any money to pay, and taking the land would make them much angrier? This is just what Entente did to Germany after WW1, and we all know what happened next. I strictly disagree any territorial or economical damage of Heldervin, except, maybe, the extraction of resources. Instead, we should shelter Heldervin until they are a wealthy and stable nation again, and just then we can take money from them."
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Postby Assassins BrotherHoodd » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:52 am

“And kunskil.keeps the Buddhist parts.”
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:58 am

Arzastan wrote:Foreign minister of Kunskil, Muhhamad Al-Abbas said
“ Kunskil will not allow the extraction of natural resources from Heldervin. We should instead each take a small piece of land and instate a democratic government which will eventually pay of the debt. I also call for Heldervin to stop discriminating the Buddhist and Muslim population in Heldervin. Thank you”
Ādzāre's answers:
" Unfortunately, Heldervin doesn't have any money to pay, and taking the land would make them much angrier? This is just what Entente did to Germany after WW1, and we all know what happened next. I strictly disagree any territorial or economical damage of Heldervin, except, maybe, the extraction of resources. Instead, we should shelter Heldervin until they are a wealthy and stable nation again, and just then we can take money from them."


Ignoring the Kunskili demands, the representative would say:

“No. We need to do something now. The so-called “Superior Monarchy” surrendered to the rebels and to the CSL, one of the most powerful factions in the world. We need a democratic Heldervin ASAP that the CSL can assist in establishing, and we need reparations that are fair. A foreign investment plan helps both sides equally.”
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Postby Arzastan » Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:58 am

" as I knew, Luxembourg and EFU have joined the war to support Librated people, not to annex new territory. Right? However, we would agree of they occupy the land for 10 or 5 years, and then we will give the land back to Heldervin.
And I agree that Kostane has a point. People of Heldervin are extremely nationalist and monarchist, and they wouldn't accept a republic which in their eyes is a puppet of CSL. I would say a constitutional monarchy, sheltered by CSL, Kostane, Arzastan and Kunskil would be the best."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:00 am

Arzastan wrote:" as I knew, Luxembourg and EFU have joined the war to support Librated people, not to annex new territory. Right? However, we would agree of they occupy the land for 10 or 5 years, and then we will give the land back to Heldervin.
And I agree that Kostane has a point. People of Heldervin are extremely nationalist and monarchist, and they wouldn't accept a republic which in their eyes is a puppet of CSL. I would say a constitutional monarchy, sheltered by CSL, Kostane, Arzastan and Kunskil would be the best."


“Marajarbia won’t support a monarchy. A monarchy is what started the war in the first place, and it both allowed for slavery and created those chemical weapons that impacted the poor, unfortunate Camtropians that have to deal with the consequences now. A democratic republic is a much better idea.”
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Postby Arzastan » Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:07 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Arzastan wrote:" as I knew, Luxembourg and EFU have joined the war to support Librated people, not to annex new territory. Right? However, we would agree of they occupy the land for 10 or 5 years, and then we will give the land back to Heldervin.
And I agree that Kostane has a point. People of Heldervin are extremely nationalist and monarchist, and they wouldn't accept a republic which in their eyes is a puppet of CSL. I would say a constitutional monarchy, sheltered by CSL, Kostane, Arzastan and Kunskil would be the best."


“Marajarbia won’t support a monarchy. A monarchy is what started the war in the first place, and it both allowed for slavery and created those chemical weapons that impacted the poor, unfortunate Camtropians that have to deal with the consequences now. A democratic republic is a much better idea.”

" Indeed the corrupted regime of superior monarchy started the whole thing, however people of Heldervin still support it. If we actually do care for the people, we should let them have their monarchy as a ceremonial thing, when a democratic government that has no difference with a republic's. Just to keep the democracy alive for them."
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Postby Camtropia » Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:07 am

"Look, I know that Camtropia's involvement in this war wasn't as significant as many of the other nations here today, but we need to pay for our economic damage one way or another. Whether through temporary resource rights or direct control of a small part of Heldervin containing those resources as Kunskil suggested.

We would prefer the former; the people of Heldervin have already been through a lot and dividing them against each other would be cruel. A unified democracy, even with a constitutional monarch, would be much more stable in the long term."
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