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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:36 am

Safer Space Act

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Wagner the Great

Description: The enforcement of mandatory weapons emplacements on each nations borders to deter invasion. All Nations must establish comprehensive Area denial and long,Medium and short range strike capabilities, Air denial system, Naval denial systems airborne and mine based systems as a minimum, All nations must have a sizable patrol fleet, All nations must maintain special forces, Civilian bomb shelters, A reactionary force and internal troops finally all nations must have a high level second strike missile/strike capability.

And resubmitted. Strength change, but still a blog.

And mandates we all build the Maginot Line.
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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:07 am

Leppikania wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:
Ban of Political Parties

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Thalerland

Description: Defining a political party as as an organised group of people with at least roughly similar political aims and opinions, that seeks to influence public policy by getting its candidates elected to public office.

Noting that political parties produce a sight of perpetual sectionalism.

Understanding the many impacts of sectionalism in a nation, leading to conflicts and separation of citizens.

Also understanding that the approval of this resolution will create a betterment of democracy, where people can lead the way with their own opinions and not the opinions of others.

Recognizing that citizens and members treat their party like a sports team, rooting for them without understanding the parties motivation or who is backing them. They will shut down any that try to challenge their positions because they lack the knowledge to defend it properly.

Acknowledging that the focus of many political parties is to destroy the others work when they get the chance.

Realizing that political parties will tear a nation’s citizens apart and keep the government from being united, so the country will never be at peace.

Admitting that without opposing points of view from very opposites end of the political spectrum, it is hard to come to a conclusion.

Criticizing political parties because they create factions of individuals who operate on a system of promises and alliances, instead of voting on the issues that are in the best interest of the citizens.

Hereby, encourages nations to ban political parties and factions and encourage their citizens to develop their own opinions and not adapt to others that are forced upon them.

Does nothing but bloviate.

Also category violation and ideological ban.

Can someone please point out how this is an ideological ban, and how it is a category violation?

Grays Harbor wrote:And mandates we all build the Maginot Line.

Can you imagine the Maginot Line in space? It would be freaking awesome to see. :p
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Postby Leppikania » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:17 am

The Silver Sentinel wrote:
Leppikania wrote:

Also category violation and ideological ban.

Can someone please point out how this is an ideological ban, and how it is a category violation?

Banning political parties sounds a lot more like political stability then furtherment of democracy. Also, some countries, like mine, (NS, not RL) treat them as an ideology.
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Postby Wrapper » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:19 am

The Silver Sentinel wrote:Can someone please point out how this is an ideological ban, and how it is a category violation?

Looks more like a strength violation to me. The sole active clause is an "encourages" clause, so this can really only be mild.

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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:26 am

Leppikania wrote:Banning political parties sounds a lot more like political stability then furtherment of democracy.

Wrong.

Political Stability - A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

The Furtherment of Democracy - A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Leppikania wrote:Also, some countries, like mine, (NS, not RL) treat them as an ideology.

Good for you. Unfortunately your nation is not the entire WA.

Ideological Bans

Okay, so you hate capitalism. That's nice, but you can't ban it. Proposals cannot outlaw, whether through direct or indirect language, religious, political or economic ideologies. e.g. A proposal can mandate that elections are transparent and fair. In this way no ideology has been outlawed as this would affect nations that have elections while not forcing it on nations without an election system. You may consider the banning of slavery an oppression of your "economic ideology", we do not.


Wrapper wrote:
The Silver Sentinel wrote:Can someone please point out how this is an ideological ban, and how it is a category violation?

Looks more like a strength violation to me. The sole active clause is an "encourages" clause, so this can really only be mild.

That's borderline. It is a pretty sweeping mandate, and thus could qualify as significant. Either way, I don't think it is illegal.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:48 am

The Silver Sentinel wrote:
Leppikania wrote:Banning political parties sounds a lot more like political stability then furtherment of democracy.

Wrong.

Political Stability - A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

The Furtherment of Democracy - A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Exactly. Banning political parties does not increase democratic freedoms. It removes them.
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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:53 am

Wallenburg wrote:
The Silver Sentinel wrote:Wrong.

Political Stability - A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

The Furtherment of Democracy - A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Exactly. Banning political parties does not increase democratic freedoms. It removes them.

Baloney. Why are political parties needed for democracy? The oldest democracy in the world was a direct democracy with no political parties. Everyone got a vote. Political parties restrict political freedoms, because you are forced to rely on a person to vote in your best interest.

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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:01 am

The Silver Sentinel wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Exactly. Banning political parties does not increase democratic freedoms. It removes them.

Baloney. Why are political parties needed for democracy? The oldest democracy in the world was a direct democracy with no political parties.

And the first "democracy" was built upon slaves and killed Socrates for educating people. Your point?
Everyone got a vote.

Tell that to women, slaves, and the foreign-born.
Political parties restrict political freedoms, because you are forced to rely on a person to vote in your best interest.

I don't think you know how political parties work. By this logic, labor unions restrict workers' rights, because you are "forced" to rely on a person to bargain with employers.

Banning political parties steps all over the right to association and peaceful assembly, and only restricts the right to exercise one's political freedoms.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:44 am

Army not Privatized

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: New Mexican Republics

Description: Description: Acknowledging that a lot of companies are using the army of multiple countries for their own personal interests, this resolution will search the prohibition of countries selling the armys to private companies.
If a company has an army of their own it must follow the next restrictions:
1. The army cannot interfer in revolutions or minimus wars
2. The army cannot drop nukes or chemical weapons in any war
3.-The company in case of winning a big war, it will not receive any monetary, territory or contract rewards.
In case of not following these restrictions, the companies will be punished by:
1. Quitting the company's army
2. Make them pay a quote
3. The destruction of the company

I … ummm … it's just … Huh? What did I just read?
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Postby Leppikania » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:47 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
Army not Privatized

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: New Mexican Republics

Description: Description: Acknowledging that a lot of companies are using the army of multiple countries for their own personal interests, this resolution will search the prohibition of countries selling the armys to private companies.
If a company has an army of their own it must follow the next restrictions:
1. The army cannot interfer in revolutions or minimus wars
2. The army cannot drop nukes or chemical weapons in any war
3.-The company in case of winning a big war, it will not receive any monetary, territory or contract rewards.
In case of not following these restrictions, the companies will be punished by:
1. Quitting the company's army
2. Make them pay a quote
3. The destruction of the company

I … ummm … it's just … Huh? What did I just read?

All I could find illegal with it was the category fail.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:32 am

Repeal "Freedom of Assembly"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#27

Proposed by: Darbystan

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #27: Freedom of Assembly (Category: Furtherment of Democracy; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: To make freedom in a State that has a Dictatorship will cause more problems than help. As such, any peaceful assembly can and will end in violence because there are people who provoke violence. The military will take steps to protect the government and those who pay them. Therefore, people will die and I am sure no one wants to have a bloody civil war or riot against a government who are potentially better protected and armed

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Postby United Kingdom of English States » Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:47 pm

Leppikania wrote:
The Silver Sentinel wrote:Can someone please point out how this is an ideological ban, and how it is a category violation?

Banning political parties sounds a lot more like political stability then furtherment of democracy. Also, some countries, like mine, (NS, not RL) treat them as an ideology.

Political parties didn't exist until 1800. George Washington pretty much predicted the United States Civil War. He was right...

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Postby Tinfect » Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:49 pm

United Kingdom of English States wrote:
Leppikania wrote:Banning political parties sounds a lot more like political stability then furtherment of democracy. Also, some countries, like mine, (NS, not RL) treat them as an ideology.

Political parties didn't exist until 1800. George Washington pretty much predicted the United States Civil War. He was right...


That's not relevant, and it literally proves his point. The first one, anyway.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:08 pm

The Euthanasia Act

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Agereus

Description: The purpose of this act is to legalise euthanasia under strict restrictions across all WA nations.

The restrictions being:

The person requesting euthanasia must be in a confirmed case of severe pain that has lasted for at least 11 months and is not likely to go away.

The person requesting euthanasia must have the approval of at least 3 doctors specialising in the area of the source of the persons pain.

The person requesting euthanasia cannot request euthanasia for psychological reasons.

If a minor requesting euthanasia for a valid reason they must have permission from parents.

The euthanasia must be done in the most humane way possible.


Already covered, so, Duplication
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Postby Leppikania » Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:40 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: gagala_1456956293

Repeal "Promotion of Clean Energy"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#357

Proposed by: Gagala

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #357: Promotion of Clean Energy (Category: Environmental; Industry Affected: All Businesses) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Repeal this proposal please.The GA shouldn't tell us what energy we can or can't use.I will not let this go as it is extremely dictatorial and it could have a harmful effect on my country and possibly many more.

Approvals: 1 (Vancouvia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 100 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 6 hours

NatSov argument, one-liner(?), bloviating.

Bloviate is the new GA buzzword.

EDIT: oh, and it's hypocritical because they are a dictatorship.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:42 pm

Increase Military Spendings

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Armed Freedom Fighers

Description: I think we need to Increase Military to deal with Foreign aggression. Let's also increase Paramilitary Training to protect our citizens. We need to Stand together and Fight back.


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Postby We Couldnt Agree On A Name » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:17 pm

Leppikania wrote:[box]Repeal "Promotion of Clean Energy"
Approvals: 1 (Vancouvia)

I know he approves everything, But it's still funny.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:19 pm

We Couldnt Agree On A Name wrote:
Leppikania wrote:[box]Repeal "Promotion of Clean Energy"
Approvals: 1 (Vancouvia)

I know he approves everything, But it's still funny.

Considering Van wrote PoCE, I'm starting to wonder if he even reads the titles of the stuff he's approving.
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Postby Leppikania » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:55 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: stechschritt_1456965382

Banning of Protest

A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Stechschritt

Description: Must we run about looking like a moron or just petition or bring process up in parliament. Allowing these protests shows younger generations that there is no respect for elders or leaders. This madness.

This will ban protests of over 50 people in whole or violent protests.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 101 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 4 hours

Category fail, blog post, incomprehensible, ideological ban(?), one-liner.

...and considering how they only had one endorsement, how did they even submit this in the first place?
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Postby Vancouvia » Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:14 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
We Couldnt Agree On A Name wrote:I know he approves everything, But it's still funny.

Considering Van wrote PoCE, I'm starting to wonder if he even reads the titles of the stuff he's approving.


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Postby Leppikania » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:53 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: epic_ninjas_1456975770

Majority Rules

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Epic Ninjas

Description: A small jury allows for stupid mistakes to happen.

I ACKNOWLEDGE that too many jury members will waste everyone's time and be useless.

I UNDERSTAND why people think that eleven people are enough to make a fair and justified decision.

I PROPOSE that every nation increases the number of jury members to 25. This will enable everyone to truly have a fair trial as well as allowing more people to share their perspectives. Juries will last longer but it will be in the name of justice!

Approvals: 1 (Epic Ninjas)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 100 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour

Bloviating, category/strength fail, could be seen as an ideological ban.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:21 pm

Leppikania wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: epic_ninjas_1456975770

Majority Rules

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Epic Ninjas

Description: A small jury allows for stupid mistakes to happen.

I ACKNOWLEDGE that too many jury members will waste everyone's time and be useless.

I UNDERSTAND why people think that eleven people are enough to make a fair and justified decision.

I PROPOSE that every nation increases the number of jury members to 25. This will enable everyone to truly have a fair trial as well as allowing more people to share their perspectives. Juries will last longer but it will be in the name of justice!

Approvals: 1 (Epic Ninjas)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 100 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour

Bloviating, category/strength fail, could be seen as an ideological ban.

It isn't an ideological ban, but it is also illegal for legislating on non-members.
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Postby Tinfect » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:54 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Leppikania wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: epic_ninjas_1456975770

Majority Rules

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Epic Ninjas

Description: A small jury allows for stupid mistakes to happen.

I ACKNOWLEDGE that too many jury members will waste everyone's time and be useless.

I UNDERSTAND why people think that eleven people are enough to make a fair and justified decision.

I PROPOSE that every nation increases the number of jury members to 25. This will enable everyone to truly have a fair trial as well as allowing more people to share their perspectives. Juries will last longer but it will be in the name of justice!

Approvals: 1 (Epic Ninjas)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 100 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour

Bloviating, category/strength fail, could be seen as an ideological ban.

It isn't an ideological ban, but it is also illegal for legislating on non-members.


Well, it may not be an Ideological Ban per say, but there are certainly Nations in the WA that don't use Juries. Or even have recognizable Trials.* Anyway, this doesn't actually mandate anything, and the use of "I" probably counts as branding.
*Such as, you know, this one.
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Tinfect wrote:and the use of "I" probably counts as branding.

No, it doesn't.

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Postby Leppikania » Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:43 am

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: imagee_1457022582

Dank-a-school

A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Educational

Proposed by: Imagee

Description: A global public school system that is funded by all nations participating.

Approvals: 1 (Imagee)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 100 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days


One-liner, no operative clause.

EDIT: oh look another one:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: the_microstate_of_basilfield_1457036969

To use Marijuana in treatment

A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.


Category: Health

Area of Effect: Healthcare

Proposed by: The Microstate of Basilfield

Description: The Region of WomenEmpire (originally suggested and written by The Most Serene Republic Of Merchantvilla) think that we can improve NationStates by:

RECOGNIZING that medical marijuana is beneficial to the health of mankind,

RECOGNIZING that medical marijuana is less dangerous than any other drug,

OBSERVING that marijuana can be used for other purposes than medical reasons,

NOTING the amount of medical marijuana legalized around the world is slowly shrinking,

UNDERSTANDING the negative effects of marijuana on humans,

REAFFIRMING the medical advancements due to use of marijuana,

DEFINING medical marijuana as

1. The use of cannabis to treat, cure, or aid the treatment of a disease or its symptoms.

2. A pill that helps sustain a disease such as HIV or lung cancer.

Therefore enact that

1. Medical Marijuana (in pill form) should be enforced legally for the benefit of the sick or terminally ill,

2. A tax on Marijuana so every government may be able to fund centers for disease control or other helpful instutions,

3. Restrictions on the sale of medical or non-medical marijuana across the world, so it can not be abused or mistreated by addicts,

4. Marijuana be recognized as a treatment for terminal illnesses.has decided that we should be:

RECOGNIZING that medical marijuana is beneficial to the health of mankind,

RECOGNIZING that medical marijuana is less dangerous than any other drug,

OBSERVING that marijuana can be used for other purposes than medical reasons,

NOTING the amount of medical marijuana legalized around the world is slowly shrinking,

UNDERSTANDING the negative effects of marijuana on humans,

REAFFIRMING the medical advancements due to use of marijuana,

DEFINING medical marijuana as

1. The use of cannabis to treat, cure, or aid the treatment of a disease or its symptoms.

2. A pill that helps sustain a disease such as HIV or lung cancer.

Therefore enact that

1. Medical Marijuana (in pill form) should be enforced legally for the benefit of the sick or terminally ill,

2. A tax on Marijuana so every government may be able to fund centers for disease control or other helpful instutions,

3. Restrictions on the sale of medical or non-medical marijuana across the world, so it can not be abused or mistreated by addicts,

4. Marijuana be recognized as a treatment for terminal illnesses.

Approvals: 2 (The Microstate of Basilfield, Hekeras)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 100 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 7 hours

Branding, possibly plagiarism, self-duplication.
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