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Open Beta: Faster connection to NationStates

Postby Roavin » Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:46 pm

We've been tinkering with something that should, if everything works out, make NationStates load faster, particularly for players that are not in North America. You can try it out right now at https://fast.nationstates.net. This routes to the normal NationStates server and works identically to www.nationstates.net (including the API), it just connects to NS in a different way. Of course, given that this is a beta test, there's no guarantee that it won't be down for a few moments or suddenly go away entirely.

Feel free to try it out and let us know in this thread if it's faster, slower, or the same speed for you. I'm curious to see if and how it improves the player experience.
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Postby Reventus Koth » Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:51 pm

Reporting from New York, this seems roughly the same. Hope that this works out favorably for the non-NA players :)
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Postby Eternal Algerstonia » Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:52 pm

Works like a dream to me on mobile iOS. Notice an immediate faster load time. Can't get more detailed because I don't have the nerdy stats but I can tell its f a s t e r.

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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:53 pm

Faster over here in sunny Northants.
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Postby Gorutimania » Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:53 pm

Holy, this is good.
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Postby Isabella van der Feltz » Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:54 pm

From Australia/NZ here - it's faster, thanks!!
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Postby Eternal Algerstonia » Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:55 pm

Eternal Algerstonia wrote:Works like a dream to me on mobile iOS. Notice an immediate faster load time. Can't get more detailed because I don't have the nerdy stats but I can tell its f a s t e r.

Also I'm a usual Iowaposter but I'm currently in Arizona

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Postby Onionist Randosia » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:09 pm

Posting from New Zealand, I'm not sure if load times are better. I'd be inclined to say they were, but the difference is generally insignificant as far as I can tell. However, I'm on pretty decent wifi right now, so the difference might be more noticeable on a worse connection?
One thing though - when trying to switch between regular NS and the fast NS linked in the OP by editing the URL (for testing reasons), I got a DNS error. This doesn't seem to happen when using other methods of switching between the two (i.e back button and the link here) though.
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Postby Mad Jack Is Rejected » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:12 pm

It's definitely quicker, posting from the UK.

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Postby Roavin » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:16 pm

Thanks for the quick feedback, everyone! This is encouraging to hear.

Onionist Randosia wrote:Posting from New Zealand, I'm not sure if load times are better. I'd be inclined to say they were, but the difference is generally insignificant as far as I can tell. However, I'm on pretty decent wifi right now, so the difference might be more noticeable on a worse connection?


Hm, from NZ there should be a difference even with good wifi. Maybe you're currently connected to a VPN in North America? In that case, it won't make a noticable difference.

Onionist Randosia wrote:One thing though - when trying to switch between regular NS and the fast NS linked in the OP by editing the URL (for testing reasons), I got a DNS error. This doesn't seem to happen when using other methods of switching between the two (i.e back button and the link here) though.


Is this reproducible, and if so, can you give me a step-by-step? My initial intuition here is to think it was a typo.
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Postby The Ambis » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:21 pm

Roavin wrote:
Onionist Randosia wrote:One thing though - when trying to switch between regular NS and the fast NS linked in the OP by editing the URL (for testing reasons), I got a DNS error. This doesn't seem to happen when using other methods of switching between the two (i.e back button and the link here) though.


Is this reproducible, and if so, can you give me a step-by-step? My initial intuition here is to think it was a typo.

Idk if this is the same thing, I don’t speak tech, but when I navigate to my nation page and stick “fast.” In front of “NationStates.net” I’m told the server is not found.

Also, it is quicker (I timed it) if even marginally so here in the Lone Star State
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Postby Montrandec » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:25 pm

This is very fast, I'm truly amazed. Thank you!

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Postby Onionist Randosia » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:26 pm

The Ambis wrote:
Roavin wrote:
Is this reproducible, and if so, can you give me a step-by-step? My initial intuition here is to think it was a typo.

Idk if this is the same thing, I don’t speak tech, but when I navigate to my nation page and stick “fast.” In front of “NationStates.net” I’m told the server is not found.

Aside from the fact that I did it with the World page and not my nation page, this is exactly what I did and I'm pretty sure the same error message, so yes I think it's the same thing.
Roavin wrote:Thanks for the quick feedback, everyone! This is encouraging to hear.

Onionist Randosia wrote:Posting from New Zealand, I'm not sure if load times are better. I'd be inclined to say they were, but the difference is generally insignificant as far as I can tell. However, I'm on pretty decent wifi right now, so the difference might be more noticeable on a worse connection?


Hm, from NZ there should be a difference even with good wifi. Maybe you're currently connected to a VPN in North America? In that case, it won't make a noticable difference.

Definitely not connected to a VPN.
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Postby Kakastania » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:32 pm

As an Eastern USer, I am not seeing the issues my NZ friend is. Fast is a bit faster, but it could just be because less people are using it right now. I know I'm not in the target region for it.

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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:44 pm

That's just about as fast as I've ever seen this site load. Amazing!

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Postby Britain Interbellum RP » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:47 pm

Its faster than I could have ever dreamed of
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Postby The Ambis » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:55 pm

Aha! For me at least, I wasn’t deleting the www part of the address.
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Postby Sweeze » Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:04 pm

it feels a tiny bit faster coming from the mountain west but its probably mostly placebo tbqh, still pretty cool ^_^
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Postby Arstotskiano » Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:11 pm

From Scotland, I've never loaded this fast in my life. It's great. My one issue with it is that when I go to the forums I have to go back through my pages to get back to it rather than being able to just click on my top bar.
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Postby Britain Interbellum RP » Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:16 pm

Arstotskiano wrote:From Scotland, I've never loaded this fast in my life. It's great. My one issue with it is that when I go to the forums I have to go back through my pages to get back to it rather than being able to just click on my top bar.

When it's fully implemented it would just be regularly implemented instead of fast. though so it should be good long term
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Postby Kostane » Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:18 pm

I'm in North America (US Midwest) and everything loads very quickly. It's practically instant.
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Postby Onionist Randosia » Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:31 pm

The Ambis wrote:Aha! For me at least, I wasn’t deleting the www part of the address.

Same here. As far as I can tell, the issue does not occur if you do delete the www part of the address.
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Postby Volstrostia » Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:37 pm

Northeast US here - I ran a couple GET requests with cURL to a few region pages on both extra crispy (fast) and original recipe (regular NS). Barring a bit of variation that I'm attributing to changes in ambient networking conditions, extra crispy seems to load within 100ms of the time that original recipe does, erring on the side of faster (but nothing cut-and-dried - I haven't sat down and crunched the numbers, but it feels more like random chance than anything statistically significant).
ICMP round trip seems to get within a handful of milliseconds. These values are so close that I'm comfortable saying they're equivalent. I plan to run some tests with farming and whatnot to put it under a "real steel" stress test, and will either follow-up or just edit this post if/when I do, but my first-glance says it's identical.
Tl;dr I can't see much of an impact, but I'm somewhat close to the servers, and considering that I've seen other users in other locations saying the speed increase is downright magical, I've got a good feeling about this beta.
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Postby Siluvia » Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:40 pm

This actually works faster. I feel like by about 25-30%.
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Postby Bormiar » Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:49 pm

So fast! [admin] must be pretty damn proud of themselves.
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