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Ghana passes bill making identifying as LGBTQ+ illegal

Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:41 pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-68353437

Ghana's parliament has passed a law that makes it illegal to identify as LGBTQ. It imposes a prison sentence of up to three years for anyone convicted of identifying as LGBTQ+. It also imposes a maximum five-year jail term for forming or funding LGBTQ+ groups.

It is truly depressing to see such hate and intolerance towards people because of something they did not choose. This seems to be a growing thing in Africa.

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Postby Urine Town » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:45 pm

I see this as a byproduct of a nation running under a religious dictatorship. Conservatism, or preserving the status quo is an ideology I disagree with, but one still grounded in reality. What is happening in Ghana is not conservatism, but reactionary thought. In my opinion, actively wanting to bring a country backwards is both despicable and not grounded in reality. And this seems to be what most American “conservative” politicians want
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Postby Fort Viorlia » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:45 pm

Well, yes, it’s sad, but…don’t you think 2SLGBTQIA+ do choose?
Also fully against this law.
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Postby Mektore » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:45 pm

This is a tragedy, So much hate for someone simply for who they are. I hope this is one of those laws that are in the books but not truly enforced. Similar to prohibition in the US when that was a thing. I hope things get better

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Postby Ors Might » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:49 pm

Fort Viorlia wrote:Well, yes, it’s sad, but…don’t you think 2SLGBTQIA+ do choose?
Also fully against this law.

My brother in Christ, I did not choose to find both men and women attractive.
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Postby Fort Viorlia » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:49 pm

Mektore wrote:This is a tragedy, So much hate for someone simply for who they are. I hope this is one of those laws that are in the books but not truly enforced. Similar to prohibition in the US when that was a thing. I hope things get better

Except that prohibition kind of thing didn’t always bring good things…
Better yet, I hope this law is repealed.
Urine Town wrote:I see this as a byproduct of a nation running under a religious dictatorship. Conservatism, or preserving the status quo is an ideology I disagree with, but one still grounded in reality. What is happening in Ghana is not conservatism, but reactionary thought. In my opinion, actively wanting to bring a country backwards is both despicable and not grounded in reality. And this seems to be what most American “conservative” politicians want
Whatever their twisted perversions of ‘cOnSeRvAtIsM’ can go to shit.
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Postby Urine Town » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:49 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Fort Viorlia wrote:Well, yes, it’s sad, but…don’t you think 2SLGBTQIA+ do choose?
Also fully against this law.

My brother in Christ, I did not choose to find both men and women attractive.


Amen

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Mektore wrote:This is a tragedy, So much hate for someone simply for who they are. I hope this is one of those laws that are in the books but not truly enforced. Similar to prohibition in the US when that was a thing. I hope things get better

Except that prohibition kind of thing didn’t always bring good things…
Better yet, I hope this law is repealed.
Urine Town wrote:I see this as a byproduct of a nation running under a religious dictatorship. Conservatism, or preserving the status quo is an ideology I disagree with, but one still grounded in reality. What is happening in Ghana is not conservatism, but reactionary thought. In my opinion, actively wanting to bring a country backwards is both despicable and not grounded in reality. And this seems to be what most American “conservative” politicians want
Whatever their twisted perversions of ‘cOnSeRvAtIsM’ can go to shit.


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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:51 pm

Fort Viorlia wrote:Well, yes, it’s sad, but…don’t you think 2SLGBTQIA+ do choose?
Also fully against this law.


I didn't wake up one morning and decide I like guys.

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Postby Fort Viorlia » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:52 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Fort Viorlia wrote:Well, yes, it’s sad, but…don’t you think 2SLGBTQIA+ do choose?
Also fully against this law.

I didn't wake up one morning and decide I like guys.

Ors Might wrote:
Fort Viorlia wrote:Well, yes, it’s sad, but…don’t you think 2SLGBTQIA+ do choose?
Also fully against this law.

My brother in Christ, I did not choose to find both men and women attractive.

Okay.
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Postby ARIsyan- » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:52 pm

I'm not going to interact with this thread any more than this post because people will come here just to spread negativity and get a reaction out of people because they feed off of the suffering and despair of others.

That being said, this is purely a distraction. Just like Uganda, they want people focusing on this instead of the other things the country is facing such as economic instability, poor sanitation, corruption, lack of access to food, water, clothing, shelter etc.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:53 pm

Fort Viorlia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I didn't wake up one morning and decide I like guys.

Ors Might wrote:My brother in Christ, I did not choose to find both men and women attractive.

Okay.


All the evidence says it's not a choice.

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Postby Fort Viorlia » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:54 pm

ARIsyan- wrote:I'm not going to interact with this thread any more than this post because people will come here just to spread negativity and get a reaction out of people because they feed off of the suffering and despair of others.

That being said, this is purely a distraction. Just like Uganda, they want people focusing on this instead of the other things the country is facing such as economic instability, poor sanitation, corruption, lack of access to food, water, clothing, shelter etc.

But it’s still a problem, it shouldn’t be ‘Lets ignore this trans/homophobia’.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:03 pm

Sure enough, just barely under the surface...American evangelicals.
Although the meeting in Uganda was billed as an attempt to protect the "sovereignty" of African states, it was actually co-sponsored by an American Christian right-wing organisation, Family Watch International (FWI).

Dr Kapya Kaoma, a Zambian priest in the Anglican Church and an academic at Boston University in the US, says African countries are being targeted by FWI and similar US-based organisations, and that the impact of its lobbying has been "horrible and inhumane" in parts of Africa, fuelling what he calls "militant homophobia".

"It is one thing to say: 'I don't agree with you being gay', but we didn't have the militant one, where politicians now are saying: 'You go to jail for life, you go to jail for talking about being gay, you go to jail because you're living with your fellow woman'," Dr Kaoma says.

(yeah it's about Kenya and Uganda, but about the efforts to spread these laws throughout Africa)

The head of the FWI says they aren't, but in a very "I'm not tooooouuuuuuuuching you..." way.

"Family Watch opposes legislation that penalises a person for having sexual attractions or for how they identify," she says in an emailed response to the BBC.

Mrs Slater addressed African lawmakers, clerics and campaigners at their forum in Uganda's lakeside city of Entebbe in March, and later appeared in a group photo with President Museveni at his official residence.

For more than 20 years, Mrs Slater has lobbied governments on what she calls "family values" and has made it her mission to campaign against children and young people being given Comprehensive Sexuality Education (CSE), a curriculum-based sex education programme championed by the United Nations and other organisations.

"The hate we stirred up for 20 years didn't lead to this...surely not."
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:09 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Sure enough, just barely under the surface...American evangelicals.

I knew they would be behind this somehow.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:13 pm

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Sure enough, just barely under the surface...American evangelicals.

I knew they would be behind this somehow.

I kinda assumed and my search only had to go as far a 'related story' link.
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Postby Omphalos » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:15 pm

Fort Viorlia wrote:Well, yes, it’s sad, but…don’t you think 2SLGBTQIA+ do choose?
Also fully against this law.

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Postby Bayshire » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:18 pm

A big part of this is probably wanting to distinct from the west. It's obviously reprehensible, but its likely that Ghanaian people see the worst bad actors in the west (because the squeaky wheel gets the grease, extreme people one way or another get attention.) Anyway, in Ghana, I presume that they see what happens in the West, and don't want the same thing happening in Ghana.

I do think this is blatant discrimination, though, and I hope LGBT people in Ghana can stay safe.
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Postby Urine Town » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:20 pm

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Sure enough, just barely under the surface...American evangelicals.

I knew they would be behind this somehow.


Just like with Project 2025. Someone needs to tell these folks that Russia is a lovely place to move to this time of year
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Postby Galmat » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:21 pm

Slightly unrelated, but I remember when Uganda did a similar thing and people in the comment section were praising Uganda's decision. What has gotten into people? Are they tried of people being their authentic selves and want them to be killed, beaten, and imprisoned for it?

Omphalos wrote:
Fort Viorlia wrote:Well, yes, it’s sad, but…don’t you think 2SLGBTQIA+ do choose?
Also fully against this law.

Nope, God made me bisexual while I was still in Create-A-Sim

This made me verbally chuckle out loud lol

Fort Viorlia wrote:Well, yes, it’s sad, but…don’t you think 2SLGBTQIA+ do choose?
Also fully against this law.

As others said, no. Environmental factors and society can impact how one identifies, but ultimately sexuality is not a conscious choice.

And I have never seen 2SLGBTQIA+, it genuinely looks like a wifi password. I just go with LGBTQ and call it a day.
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Ghanaian Politicians: Go fuck yourselves

Ghanaian People: Go fuck who/whatever you are attracted to, no judging.
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Postby Kaumudeen » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:26 pm

Urine Town wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:I knew they would be behind this somehow.


Just like with Project 2025. Someone needs to tell these folks that Russia is a lovely place to move to this time of year


They will come to find Russia, with its high rates of HIV infection, divorce, drug addiction, and abortion, is the opposite of the BASED TRAD PUTINLAND they portray themselves to be.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:27 pm

Vonum wrote:Ghanaian Politicians: Go fuck yourselves

Ghanaian People: Go fuck who/whatever you are attracted to, no judging.


Sadly from what I can gather LGBT rights are not widely supported in Ghana.

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Kaumudeen wrote:
Urine Town wrote:
Just like with Project 2025. Someone needs to tell these folks that Russia is a lovely place to move to this time of year


They will come to find Russia, with its high rates of HIV infection, divorce, drug addiction, and abortion, is the opposite of the BASED TRAD PUTINLAND they portray themselves to be.


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Postby Bayshire » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:32 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Vonum wrote:Ghanaian Politicians: Go fuck yourselves

Ghanaian People: Go fuck who/whatever you are attracted to, no judging.


Sadly from what I can gather LGBT rights are not widely supported in Ghana.


They are quite traditional. You know so much so that the pope called African Christians "a special case."

He said that most bishops would understand in time,in regards to LGBT blessings but he wasn't sure for Africa

https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-says ... 024-01-29/
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:32 pm

Galmat wrote:Slightly unrelated, but I remember when Uganda did a similar thing and people in the comment section were praising Uganda's decision. What has gotten into people? Are they tried of people being their authentic selves and want them to be killed, beaten, and imprisoned for it?

Yes, and those people will then delude themselves into thinking they're loving, compassionate, and moral for doing it, when the opposite is true.
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