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Should We be More Fair to Cows?

Postby Almighty Biden » Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:10 pm

Hello NSG.

In Chapter VI of his magnum opus the Wealth of Nations, Adam Smith discussed farmers renting property from landlords. Among a farmers expenses, he listed four things, among them paying rent to the landlord, and paying wages for the maintenance of farmhands and laboring cattle. It is no secret, however, that these days no one pays wages to laboring cattle. Perhaps one can attempt to explain it away in that we no longer use oxen to pull plows and wagons, but cows are still used for a variety of other tasks. Take for instance, if you will, the fact that we milk cows. Although we take their hard earned labor, we do not pay them for it! And that's not even touching on what goes on in butcheries and meat packing plants.
Personally, I think we should act before our livestock have a cow. We should grant our cattle the right to unionize, and give them the same benefits we do all other laborers. In fact, I think if we don't start paying them, that they are going on strike, or worse. After all, it's no secret that a cow started the great Chicago fire, undoubtedly because she couldn't handle the unfair working conditions anymore.

What do you think NSG? Should cows be treated more fairly?

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Postby Adharcaili » Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:30 pm

No. Slaughter the methane-making Betsy bastards.
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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:39 pm

OK. Give animals rights. Long live Comrade Napoleon!
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Postby Existential Cats » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:13 pm

To answer the question unironically, yes, at least with factory-farmed cattle, which are treated abysmally.
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Postby Limitata » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:18 pm

Yes, we should give them voting privileges and let them replace humans in society.
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Postby Ineva » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:19 pm

Not sure I would want to give my in-laws more rights. /j

Eh, I mean, I guess?
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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:21 pm

Limitata wrote:Yes, we should give them voting privileges and let them replace humans in society.
I am not being held hostage by a cow, please do not help

Thesis, please.
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Postby Tianming » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:21 pm

We should have more fair prices for Burgers, if that's what you meant.
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Postby Keltionialang » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:24 pm

I think a good solution to this problem would be to give up Oregon to the cows and let them create their own republic there.

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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:43 pm

Keltionialang wrote:I think a good solution to this problem would be to give up Oregon to the cows and let them create their own republic there.

As long we fenced it off, we wouldn’t miss much.
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Postby Trump Almighty » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:54 pm

No! Meat is the gift given to God’s country, America. I believe everyone should eat meat every single day. Especially hamburgers like a Big Mac or Quarter Pounder. Yugely delicious. The argument I always run into is that animals like cows and pigs are sentient and deserve to live just like humans do. If that’s the case, then why are they made out of food?

And as for the Chicago fire argument, this should fortunately happen less often as we pump more carbon emissions into our atmosphere. Everyone knows that rising temperatures help prevent hordes of horrible nasty nasty forest fires. Sad!
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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:56 pm

TRUMP almighty wrote:No! Meat is the gift given to God’s country, America. I believe everyone should eat meat every single day. Especially hamburgers like a Big Mac or Quarter Pounder. Yugely delicious. The argument I always run into is that animals like cows and pigs are sentient and deserve to live just like humans do. If that’s the case, then why are they made out of food?

How can America be God’s country? Even if you do think that God is up there somewhere, how is the worst nation in the world God’s?
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Postby Ineva » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:10 pm

Kreigsreich of Iron wrote:
TRUMP almighty wrote:No! Meat is the gift given to God’s country, America. I believe everyone should eat meat every single day. Especially hamburgers like a Big Mac or Quarter Pounder. Yugely delicious. The argument I always run into is that animals like cows and pigs are sentient and deserve to live just like humans do. If that’s the case, then why are they made out of food?

How can America be God’s country? Even if you do think that God is up there somewhere, how is the worst nation in the world God’s?

I'm plenty sure there's worse.
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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:27 pm

Ineva wrote:
Kreigsreich of Iron wrote:How can America be God’s country? Even if you do think that God is up there somewhere, how is the worst nation in the world God’s?

I'm plenty sure there's worse.

Well, perhaps not the worst nation in the world, but in the first world, I’m sure you would agree with me?
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:28 pm

TRUMP almighty wrote:No! Meat is the gift given to God’s country, America. I believe everyone should eat meat every single day. Especially hamburgers like a Big Mac or Quarter Pounder. Yugely delicious. The argument I always run into is that animals like cows and pigs are sentient and deserve to live just like humans do. If that’s the case, then why are they made out of food?

And as for the Chicago fire argument, this should fortunately happen less often as we pump more carbon emissions into our atmosphere. Everyone knows that rising temperatures help prevent hordes of horrible nasty nasty forest fires. Sad!


It's spelt 'hamberders'...

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Postby Trump Almighty » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:30 pm

Kreigsreich of Iron wrote:
Ineva wrote:I'm plenty sure there's worse.

Well, perhaps not the worst nation in the world, but in the first world, I’m sure you would agree with me?



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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:33 pm

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Kreigsreich of Iron wrote:Well, perhaps not the worst nation in the world, but in the first world, I’m sure you would agree with me?



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Well, you know what? I’m suing you for unjust termination. :rofl:
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Postby Ineva » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:36 pm

Kreigsreich of Iron wrote:
Ineva wrote:I'm plenty sure there's worse.

Well, perhaps not the worst nation in the world, but in the first world, I’m sure you would agree with me?

Even then, I'm not sure.
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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:39 pm

Ineva wrote:
Kreigsreich of Iron wrote:Well, perhaps not the worst nation in the world, but in the first world, I’m sure you would agree with me?

Even then, I'm not sure.

Who would you name?
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Postby Trump Almighty » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:40 pm

Kreigsreich of Iron wrote:
Ineva wrote:Even then, I'm not sure.

Who would you name?


Ireland probably. Some of the cloudiest gloomiest weather in Europe. Not good for playing golf!
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Postby Almighty Biden » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:41 pm

Kreigsreich of Iron wrote:
Ineva wrote:Even then, I'm not sure.

Who would you name?

San Franciscow or maybe New Jersey would be better than oregon
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Postby Ineva » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:43 pm

Kreigsreich of Iron wrote:
Ineva wrote:Even then, I'm not sure.

Who would you name?

Well, I guess it would also depend on your definition of "first-world" since the term is quite dated (Cold War-era). But, I imagine at least one particular country has a worse history than the U.S.....
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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:47 pm

Ineva wrote:
Kreigsreich of Iron wrote:Who would you name?

Well, I guess it would also depend on your definition of "first-world" since the term is quite dated (Cold War-era). But, I imagine at least one particular country has a worse history than the U.S.....

Well, yes, it I meant today.
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Postby Adharcaili » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:49 pm

TRUMP almighty wrote:
Kreigsreich of Iron wrote:Who would you name?


Ireland probably. Some of the cloudiest gloomiest weather in Europe. Not good for playing golf!

*ahem* Say that again... :evil:
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