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Edgy kids: Harmless or Harmful???

Postby The second Akane Kurokawa » Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:50 pm

Hey NSG! I’ve got another thread for y’all!

Are edgy kids harmless or harmful? Personally, while I do understand that they want to be provocative and rebel, I think that it’s harmful cuz they tend to promote hate.

For the purposes of this thread, edgy kids are kids who use dark humor(eg. Holocaust jokes) and try to be provocative by using socially unacceptable jokes.

However, lets not blame them. Ya wanna know why:

Because they are just kids, now I am not saying that we should let them spread hate. I am saying that we should not blame them either. Kids have a natural tendency to rebel against the norm. What we should do is just explain to them the seriousness of these kinds of jokes, and possibly get them help, because what I find is that edgy kids tend to have underlying issues, such as loneliness, bullying and even depression.

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Postby Ineva » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:22 pm

The second Akane Kurokawa wrote:Hey NSG! I’ve got another thread for y’all!

Are edgy kids harmless or harmful? Personally, while I do understand that they want to be provocative and rebel, I think that it’s harmful cuz they tend to promote hate.

For the purposes of this thread, edgy kids are kids who use dark humor(eg. Holocaust jokes) and try to be provocative by using socially unacceptable jokes.

However, lets not blame them. Ya wanna know why:

Because they are just kids, now I am not saying that we should let them spread hate. I am saying that we should not blame them either. Kids have a natural tendency to rebel against the norm. What we should do is just explain to them the seriousness of these kinds of jokes, and possibly get them help, because what I find is that edgy kids tend to have underlying issues, such as loneliness, bullying and even depression.

But what do YOU think? I am interested in your opinion, but remember

Don’t let this thread go south please, keep it unlocked and trawl-free

I love me some dark humor, including and especially about touchy subjects. When that humor becomes light is the problem. So long as we can recognize these topics as belonging in the "dark" category, I really see no problem with it. And, if we didn't laugh at ourselves every so often, wed probably cry instead, so I really take no issue with a good sense of humor.

Edgy kids are just kids, just as you said. They'll either grow out of their immature ways or face the consequences in the adult world. I'm satisfied with either outcome.
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Postby Vorkat » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:26 pm

I think its a case by case basis. And not all edge is necessarily political or related to historical Fascist dictatorships and hate movements.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:34 pm

The issue with 'kids will be kids' is that yeah, of course they will...but you're supposed to teach them better or they become adult pieces of shit.

I don't truck with the notion that so-called 'participation trophies' have any effect whatsoever on the development of youth, but I'll borrow the language, being 'edgy' is like looking for a participation trophy for being an interesting person and should be treated as such. Dark humor, same thing. There's a place for dark humor but it's not 'holocaust jokes because the holocaust is the most serious thing my young mind can think of.'

Personally, though, the biggest pet peeve with 'edginess' is how so fucking repetitive and unoriginal it is and how low the bar is for their success. Any reaction at all, including nothing at all, is marked down as a success. And if, say, you managed to stick around a forum that attracts late high schoolers and college undergraduates for decades you end up having to watch 15 year olds regurgitate the same shit like they just discovered the wheel and it starts to grate on you until you're outside giving clouds a good talking to.
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Postby New Ziedrich » Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:20 am

Oh man, when you said edgy, I was thinking something along the lines of "was obsessed with Sephiroth in high school".

...I may have been obsessed with Sephiroth in high school. :unsure:
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:25 am

Page wrote:When I was 15 I claimed to be an Animal Liberation Front operative (and I wasn't even fully vegan!), I said stuff along the lines of "9/11 was good, actually", and I wrote a poem for a girl I liked comparing her (favorably) to a school shooter. Yeah, it's all cringe to me now looking back, but it was just a part of growing up.


Did the poem work?
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Postby New Ziedrich » Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:25 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Page wrote:When I was 15 I claimed to be an Animal Liberation Front operative (and I wasn't even fully vegan!), I said stuff along the lines of "9/11 was good, actually", and I wrote a poem for a girl I liked comparing her (favorably) to a school shooter. Yeah, it's all cringe to me now looking back, but it was just a part of growing up.


Did the poem work?

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Postby Gaybeans » Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:29 am

I genuinely don't see the harm, especially when they're going to take 2d4 psychic damage when they reflect on their cringe period.

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The Blaatschapen wrote:
Page wrote:When I was 15 I claimed to be an Animal Liberation Front operative (and I wasn't even fully vegan!), I said stuff along the lines of "9/11 was good, actually", and I wrote a poem for a girl I liked comparing her (favorably) to a school shooter. Yeah, it's all cringe to me now looking back, but it was just a part of growing up.


Did the poem work?


She was charmed by it cause she was also edgy, but I never managed to get out of the friendzone.
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Postby Todestruppen » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:48 am

Page wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Did the poem work?


She was charmed by it cause she was also edgy, but I never managed to get out of the friendzone.


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Postby Repreteop » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:55 am

I make a bad joke every so often, but I don't make it my personality. I'm generally not that morbid and weird.
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Postby Repreteop » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:56 am

Page wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Did the poem work?


She was charmed by it cause she was also edgy, but I never managed to get out of the friendzone.


The lesson is that you should never sell your soul for ladies. Instead make them sell their soul to you.
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Postby MauzerX » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:59 am

Edgy kids — I'd say it's in the grey zone. Some, harmless, but if things get worse, they may get harmful.

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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:31 am

People can make jokes about anything they find funny. There is no harm in this.

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Postby Kaumudeen » Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:34 am

Most kids grow out of it, some don't.
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Postby Jolthig » Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:59 am

I was once an edgy kid especially during the first six years of being on this site. I grew out of it as everyone else had.

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Postby Puppet of britain » Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:03 am

As a highschooler myself reading all of y'alls younger days stories makes me want to start taking notes on what not to do
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:09 am

Different groups of people find different things funny. One of the weirder things to pathologise and try to turn into a social problem.
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Once you say something harmful, you should be dealt with according (reteaching and rehabilitation, learn about something called empathy)
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:15 am

Puppet of britain wrote:As a highschooler myself reading all of y'alls younger days stories makes me want to start taking notes on what not to do

That doesn’t really work. You get so obsessed trying not to make other people’s mistakes that you cut yourself off from having your own experiences. Very little of what you’re doing now matters. Make your own mistakes now while you’re still resilient enough to bounce back from them. The things you did will always be a better story than the things you didn’t.

Just don’t use easy triggers to get people mad on the internet. That’ll never be a good story.

Also, some of what you do now matters. You can make your future easier by taking advantage of opportunities that won’t be as easy later…trying to figure out which is which is basically the whole game.
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Postby Neonian Imperium » Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:41 am

Rebellion bad, authority good.
I absolutly HATE edgy kids (even hate more gothic ones).
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:57 am

To a point being "edgy" is a normal developmental step in growing up. The child is becoming it's own person, and establishing their own identity. It does that by expressing ideas and values opposite of the mainstream.
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Postby Kashimura » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:04 pm

Only if they never grow out of it. Getting a rise out of people is attention-seeking rebel behavior children engage in, just as described. Letting it build an ideology out of memes you saw when you were 12 is more problematic down the line. When you take shitposts seriously, you end up with the real conspiratorial type. That’s why the funniest shitpost threads I see here in General are conspiracies.
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