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United States Military Recruitment

Postby Scandoslavkostia » Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:35 pm

People who want to join the US military. I made this forum for young people who are hoping to get into the military to discuss their reasons, branch, and what they want to do. If you don't want to join you can still talk here, I can't stop you, but if you are just coming here to dis the military please move on.

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Postby Scandoslavkostia » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:48 am

Does nobody want to join, only me?
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Postby Untecna » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:51 am

Scandoslavkostia wrote:Does nobody want to join, only me?

Joining the military is a net negative decision
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:59 am

Being forced to sign up for Selective Service under threat of fines and imprisonment, along with being hounded constantly by recruiters the instant I turned 18, left a less than positive association with the idea of joining the military.
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Postby Jabberwocky » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:59 am

I came this close to being drafted to go to Vietnam. No military for me.
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Postby Kernen » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:04 am

Untecna wrote:
Scandoslavkostia wrote:Does nobody want to join, only me?

Joining the military is a net negative decision


Cant agree, there's nowhere else you can do some of the cool shit legally.

Beyond that, service often accrues certain soft skills significantly faster than other career choices.
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Postby Christian Confederasion Military » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:08 am

I'm going to college and have no intention of dying for oil in Iran or to kill other Christians in Russia. May join up if we go to war with the Commies in China otherwise hell no.
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Postby Kernen » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:11 am

Christian Confederasion Military wrote:I'm going to college and have no intention of dying for oil in Iran or to kill other Christians in Russia. May join up if we go to war with the Commies in China otherwise hell no.

If you want to fight the Chinese and want to sign up at the start of a fight, your odds of making it through training by the time the conflict is over are slim. You spend around 18 months in training from the start of boot until you can be placed in a combat role. At minimum, generally.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:11 am

Christian Confederasion Military wrote:I'm going to college and have no intention of dying for oil in Iran or to kill other Christians in Russia. May join up if we go to war with the Commies in China otherwise hell no.

China is actually quite capitalist. If they actually were communist or socialist, then our corporations would not be moving jobs there to take advantage of the lack of regulation.
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Postby Haganham » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:12 am

  • Constantly degrade exactly the demographics that have historically enlisted
  • Create policy that is openly hostile to American's wellbeing.
  • Poison your recruiting pool to the point that most aren't fit for service
  • Fill every officer position with the least qualified malevolent narcissists you can find
  • Abuse and betray your vets while treating them like criminals
  • Make every step of dealing with your organization like dealing with an unholy lovechild of the IRS and Spirit Airlines
  • Pay less then federal minimum wage

"why does no one want to enlist? "

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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:13 am

I always wanted to join the military. Unfortunately, the military did not want me. The military rejects 70% of applicants.

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Postby Kernen » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:16 am

Glorious Freedonia wrote:I always wanted to join the military. Unfortunately, the military did not want me. The military rejects 70% of applicants.


Lack of fitness, discipline, and mental wellness has really harmed recruiting pools. Not just in the US. China has similar problems, amusingly.
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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:26 am

Kernen wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:I always wanted to join the military. Unfortunately, the military did not want me. The military rejects 70% of applicants.


Lack of fitness, discipline, and mental wellness has really harmed recruiting pools. Not just in the US. China has similar problems, amusingly.


General Knox was a fatty fatty boombalatti, and he was put in charge of the artillery. If the population be fat, the military can be fat too. Just because you have a big butt doesn't mean you cant kick some butt. I am not even talking about iron marshmallows, I am talking about all patriotic marshmallows. We need to take the physical fitness and health requirements down a few notches and add a few notches to military belts. Unleash the fatties on our enemies. We will pancake them.

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Postby Kernen » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:29 am

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Kernen wrote:
Lack of fitness, discipline, and mental wellness has really harmed recruiting pools. Not just in the US. China has similar problems, amusingly.


General Knox was a fatty fatty boombalatti, and he was put in charge of the artillery. If the population be fat, the military can be fat too. Just because you have a big butt doesn't mean you cant kick some butt. I am not even talking about iron marshmallows, I am talking about all patriotic marshmallows. We need to take the physical fitness and health requirements down a few notches and add a few notches to military belts. Unleash the fatties on our enemies. We will pancake them.

None of this is correct but I love love love the meme.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:30 am

Haganham wrote:
  • Constantly degrade exactly the demographics that have historically enlisted
  • Create policy that is openly hostile to American's wellbeing.
  • Poison your recruiting pool to the point that most aren't fit for service
  • Fill every officer position with the least qualified malevolent narcissists you can find
  • Abuse and betray your vets while treating them like criminals
  • Make every step of dealing with your organization like dealing with an unholy lovechild of the IRS and Spirit Airlines
  • Pay less then federal minimum wage

"why does no one want to enlist? "

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And I am not particularly interested in fighting for corporate interests abroad either, which is what our military is often used for.
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Postby Scandoslavkostia » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:37 am

If that is all you guys, see in the military no wonder you don't want to join. I am planning on enlisting for the honor of defending my nations ideals and carrying on a legacy of famous people in my family who fought. Whoever joins for the money is a fool. I know how hard it is going to be, I know I will be paid only $24,000 a month, I know I will most likely die, and I love every bit of it.
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Postby Kernen » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:40 am

Scandoslavkostia wrote:If that is all you guys, see in the military no wonder you don't want to join. I am planning on enlisting for the honor of defending my nations ideals and carrying on a legacy of famous people in my family who fought. Whoever joins for the money is a fool. I know how hard it is going to be, I know I will be paid only $24,000 a month, I know I will most likely die, and I love every bit of it.

But you aren't defending ideals. In most situations you're laundering taxes for the MIC and intervening on behalf of business interests.
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Postby Distruzio » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:44 am

I'll actively encourage my sons to laugh at the recruiters.

I don't hate them enough to tolerate the inclination to join.
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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:46 am

Kernen wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:
General Knox was a fatty fatty boombalatti, and he was put in charge of the artillery. If the population be fat, the military can be fat too. Just because you have a big butt doesn't mean you cant kick some butt. I am not even talking about iron marshmallows, I am talking about all patriotic marshmallows. We need to take the physical fitness and health requirements down a few notches and add a few notches to military belts. Unleash the fatties on our enemies. We will pancake them.

None of this is correct but I love love love the meme.


It is true. Knox was a fatty. How come he can serve but I can't?

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Postby Katinea » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:46 am

I have always wanted to join the (British) Military, But I'm unsure wether I should now, because of the Rascism and Politically Correctness. I want to serve my Country, but I dont want to be part of an Organisation that is nothing more than a Billboard for Woke Discrimination.
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Postby Kernen » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:50 am

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Kernen wrote:None of this is correct but I love love love the meme.


It is true. Knox was a fatty. How come he can serve but I can't?

He was an officer. A senior one. When you're a senior officer you can be fat.
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Postby Arkgal » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:51 am

Scandoslavkostia wrote:If that is all you guys, see in the military no wonder you don't want to join. I am planning on enlisting for the honor of defending my nations ideals and carrying on a legacy of famous people in my family who fought. Whoever joins for the money is a fool. I know how hard it is going to be, I know I will be paid only $24,000 a month, I know I will most likely die, and I love every bit of it.

Bro you're not getting 24k per month it's like 24k/year

And the sentiments that the users who are opposed to joining are that
1. The US military doesn't stand for the ideals that either right wing idealists or left wing idealists want.
2. The US military is a worse job than basically anything in consulting or finance, which college educated people like myself can fairly consistently get if they're competitive applicants.
3. The US military can take you away from friends, family, your life on a whim and literally get you killed, even though you don't actually stand for its ideals.
--> There is no practical or idealistic reason to join the military. In fact, it's a net negative.

And even if you wanted to join the military to become a powerful general, your odds of that happening are razor slim, basically 0. And even if you were a powerful general, you're ultimately always at the behest of your superior. The US military is not going to be launching a coup anytime soon.

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Postby Usca » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:54 am

I actually would love to join the military and definitely plan to, I have my eyes on the air force right now

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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:56 am

Scandoslavkostia wrote:If that is all you guys, see in the military no wonder you don't want to join. I am planning on enlisting for the honor of defending my nations ideals and carrying on a legacy of famous people in my family who fought. Whoever joins for the money is a fool. I know how hard it is going to be, I know I will be paid only $24,000 a month, I know I will most likely die, and I love every bit of it.

It is actually 24,000 a year, but that is not the deal breaker for me.

I am someone who would be willing to fight for ideals and ideals alone, but let's be honest, our military doesn't fight for ideals. It fights on behalf of business interests, such as defense contractors, oil companies, and whenever a nation's government decides to nationalize their own natural resources as opposed to selling it to our corporations at a loss. There is nothing resembling ideals in that.
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Postby Katinea » Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:57 am

I think this Thread is meant for people who want to join the Military, Not Left-Wing People who don't like the Military.
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