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2024 Motor Racing: Now Playing 24h of Daytona

Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Jan 27, 2024 7:55 pm

These generally don't go over well but a passing comment in a doomed thread made me marginally hopeful.

Not one specific series but anything going on in motorsport as it becomes relevant.

Currently: The 24 Hours of Daytona.

A few weeks before NASCAR has their quaint 500 mile enduro race on the famed tri-oval IMSA races twice around the clock after adding a few rights in the infield to make it a road course.

We're almost 8 hours deep in the race at the moment, streaming on Peacock or the IMSA feed or something else (with probably better coverage) somewhere else.

As of this writing according to timing and scoring Cadillac leads Porsche in GTP (Grand Touring Prototype, or some sort of half spec half prototype compromise to qualify for LMh or Le Mans Hypercar which is really just another prototype series). Acura sits between the 2nd and 4th place Porsche with the BMWs filling out the four make field towards the end.

BOOOOOOO! While I was writing this, Porsche #6 took a ten second penalty for...producing too much power? Meh...MEH!

Jenson Button has come to a stop on on the track in his Acura GTP. Full course caution.

Also, all these positions shifted while i wrote about other series. Now its Caddy/Caddy/Acura at the top. BMW/Ferrari/Corvette in GTDPro and still Lexus/AMG/AMG

LMP2...who cares...Timing and scoring doesn't give team names and they're all in Orecas since it's basically a spec series for super rich people.

GTDPro (GT3 cars with an all pro line up): BMW, Ferrari, Porsche. The Corvette, however, appears to be on a mission.

GTD (GT3 with a mix of pro drivers and rich people/people who haven't yet established pro status): Lexus/AMG/AMG.

Stories for the race:
-Cadillac has a new engine. They seemed excited about it. I couldn't really be that interested.
-Porsche has customer 963s (GTPs) to fluff out the field since IMSA haaaaad to be special so not all the LMh prototypes can compete, so no Ferrari etc.
-In the production classes, Corvette is finally offering a customer version of their Corvette GT3. Everyone else has been doing this forever.
-AO racing after winning the livery wars with Rexy and Roxy (which now can be bought as a Hot Wheel) has continued to dominate with Spike.
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-There are 9 women in the field, the most since the race started.
(Trivia that will do you no good...the first NASCAR race to feature a woman driver was...the first NASCAR race. Women were in racing and then were pushed out. It was a whole thing.)

So far it has been rain free but there's a suggestion of maybe. Overall temperatures have been high for the average.


In other racing:
Dakar- American Ricky Brabec wins the bike category on a Honda.
Manuel Andujar from Argentina won quads on a Yamaha
Carlos Sainz finally brought the Audi RS Q e-tron its victory (serial hybrid)

Supercross:
Three weekends, three different winners after Jett Lawrence ended last season with a clean sweep of motocross (supercross=stadiums, motocross=outdoor tracks. Supercross is qualifying/heats/last chance qualifier/main. Motocross is two motos averaged.)
Jett took the win at Anaheim 1, in a de facto jet ski race in the rain in San Francisco Chase Sexton returned to the top, for San Diego for a slightly less wet race the cowboy and crowd favorite Aaron Plessinger took the top spot.

I'm not looking for 250 results because threading the needle to avoid results from today was hard enough.

Australian V8 supercars are probably like mid-season right now but I haven't been able to catch any of it.

NASCAR:
Feb 18th the Daytona 500 will kick off the NASCAR season...I have no idea what's going on in NASCAR.

IRL
Even less. I don't even know what their season opener is. March 10th at St Petersberg. First race on American soil is Long Beach on April 21. Maybe this time? I've been down south a few years now, still haven't gone to the Long Beach Grand Prix (which also hosts an IMSA race)

WRC
Started last week at Monte Carlo. Looks like it's Toyota vs Hyundai? Clearly have lost track of this series.

MotoGP
Starts in Quatar in March. I've never known much about this. I like Ducatis...

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sat Jan 27, 2024 7:58 pm

IMSA.TV has the 24, for those of us outside of Yankistan.

https://www.imsa.com/tvlive/
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:11 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:IMSA.TV has the 24, for those of us outside of Yankistan.

https://www.imsa.com/tvlive/

Thanks for that. Also radio le mans has radio coverage.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:21 pm

Nerts...stupid Cadillacs...

EDIT: Rain is coming, apparently. Expected about 1am race track time.

EDIT2: I'm not bumping this because clearly no one cares.

Porsche wins at Daytona! They've done it like a bunch of times over various classes.

A Lexus GT car caught fire exiting the pits, caused a caution. Porsche got out of the pits ahead of the Caddy that was kinda walking away up to that point, in the remaining 30 minutes Porsche was able to stay ahead.

Though it seems like they called the race a lap early. Kinda vague on that and it didn't come up again.
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Postby Northern Estrian Islands » Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:59 pm

Any sort of motorsport, from NASCAR to F1 to local short track racing to Supercross, let's have some discussions!

I meant to post this before the Rolex 24 but completely forgot.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:04 pm

Northern Estrian Islands wrote:Any sort of motorsport, from NASCAR to F1 to local short track racing to Supercross, let's have some discussions!

I meant to post this before the Rolex 24 but completely forgot.

Merged your nascent thread into this one. To be honest, yours could have used a better OP.
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Postby Northern Estrian Islands » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:06 pm

Farnhamia wrote:Merged your nascent thread into this one. To be honest, yours could have used a better OP.

Thanks. I didn't see the other one.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:08 pm

Clash at the Colosseum got moved up due to weather. It's being ran tonight instead of tomorrow.
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Postby Northern Estrian Islands » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:10 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Clash at the Colosseum got moved up due to weather. It's being ran tonight instead of tomorrow.

Apparently they're letting in people for free according to Pockrass. Haley being locked into the Clash is surprising, wasn't expecting that from him.
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Postby Northern Estrian Islands » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:47 pm

Fox deserves a medal for their ability to miss any NASCAR accident, it's remarkable.
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Postby Bombadil » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:51 pm

All that and you omit the news that Lewis Hamilton has left Mercedes to join Ferrari..
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:58 pm

Bombadil wrote:All that and you omit the news that Lewis Hamilton has left Mercedes to join Ferrari..

What in the actual fuck...holy shit, that's for real!

That's an awkward year with Mercedes...
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:07 pm

That's how out of tune with NASCAR I am. I'm in LA and had my only other friend who is into racing visiting today and we were trying to figure out something to do and we just went to the Peterson Automobile Museum. Probably couldn't have gotten in, and he doesn't like NASCAR more than I don't like NASCAR. Though we did go to a NASCAR race at Sears Point (Sonoma Raceway).

EDIT: I see now from the highlights, no spectators. Kinda weak. I'm sure some of the original ticket holders would have showed up.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:09 pm

Also, while the thread is up for a moment...it was in fact a truncated 24 Hours of Daytona.
Due to an officiating error in race control, IMSA inadvertently announced and subsequently displayed the white flag with under three minutes remaining in the race. At the end of the lap, the race-leading No. 7 GTP car then received the checkered flag with 1 minute, 35.277 seconds still remaining, ending the race short of the planned 24 hours by effectively one lap.

Based on Article 49 of the 2024 IMSA Sporting Regulations and Standard Supplementary Regulations, should the checkered flag be inadvertently or otherwise displayed before the leading car completes the scheduled number of laps or before the prescribed time has been completed, the race is nevertheless deemed ended when the flag is displayed.

So it was the 2024 23 hours 58 minutes and 25 seconds of Daytona.

Apparently some people brought their F1/Ferrari style conspiracy to the event:
Now, it’s time to tear up some tinfoil hats. Yes, the victory ended historic droughts for Penske and Porsche. It was the team’s first win at the event since 1969. Porsche’s last overall victory in the Rolex 24 was in 2010 with Action Express Racing.

Of the baseless rumors circulating online, the most prominent conspiracy theory is that IMSA ended the race early because the Porsche was going to run out of fuel. The No. 7 Porsche and the No. 31 Cadillac, run by Action Express, made the final stops at the same time. Publicly available telemetry also showed that both cars had five percent of usable energy left, enough to complete another lap easily. Lastly, Action Express is owned by IMSA Chairman Jim France. Any rational conspiracy would have the race prolonged to give the No. 31 Cadillac a better chance at the win.
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Bombadil wrote:All that and you omit the news that Lewis Hamilton has left Mercedes to join Ferrari..

Hamilton should be considered the GOAT if he drags this busted ass Ferrari team to any remotely positive result.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:04 pm

I'll just do this at the end of a race weekend and if the thread is just, like, three of these posts in a row without anyone else I'll let it die.

So...

NASCAR: Denny Hamlin wins Clash at the Colosseum which apparently brings him close to Earnhardt. In a very specific category:
The victory is the first for Hamlin in L.A. but his fourth in a Clash event, just one shy of Dale Earnhardt’s Clash win record. Hamlin had three wins at Daytona International Speedway when it hosted the exhibition race, formerly known as the Budweiser Shootout and Sprint Unlimited.

Honestly, I'm confused about the structure of NASCAR about half of the time. In three weeks it's the Daytona 500, that's easy to understand.

There was drama and other drama.

Also, the charter between the teams and NASCAR have expired. I'm just catching up on this but apparently the teams want more of the pie to make them less reliant on sponsors to field a car.
NASCAR teams have elected to let charter negotiations with the sanction expire. This comes after previous extensions.

The series recently signed a tv deal for 2025 and beyond. In theory that should have sped up negotiations with teams. However, that isn’t the case.

Teams are currently dependent upon sponsorship to stay in business. They are looking for a larger portion of the tv revenue pie going forward. Currently, teams make just 25% as tracks make 65% and NASCAR holds onto the remaining 10%.

Additionally, teams are looking to make the charter system permanent. It was launched as NASCAR’s vision for franchises in auto racing to add value to team owners. That’s been a success in recent years as the most recent charter sale was an estimated $40M. But, the charter system could still be removed under the current agreement.

With negotiations expiring, teams are now allowed to hold conversations with series outside of the NASCAR umbrella. Which is a major development.


F1: Everyone knew this before me, Hamilton will leave Toto Wolff to drive for Ferrari, every young racer's dream (well, mine was to drive for Porsche at Le Mans because I didn't really want to do open wheel...but you know since I wasn't winning club championships it didn't exactly matter what my professional ambitions were).
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Bombadil wrote:All that and you omit the news that Lewis Hamilton has left Mercedes to join Ferrari..

Hamilton should be considered the GOAT if he drags this busted ass Ferrari team to any remotely positive result.

If he gets a championship in Ferrari red that will also mean that he has the most championships of any driver. He's currently tied with Schummacher. When he stops driving I think we'll maybe start hearing about Hamilton in the same hushed tones we now talk about Schummacher...I know I'm spelling that wrong but I don't feel like looking it up to check.

IRL: They're testing their new hybrid race car.
Altogether, the three-day debut of the latest ERS iteration at Homestead-Miami, with two cars operated by Arrow McLaren and Team Penske for Chevrolet and Andretti Global and Chip Ganassi Racing for Honda, produced some significant firsts for IndyCar in its hybrid preparations.

A combined 1446 laps were turned — 3196 miles — by 10 drivers who cycled through the cars without a single stoppage during the test. By comparison, in the last hybrid test in November, also held at Homestead-Miami, one driver was towed in six times in one day as their car refused to complete a lap, and in general, it was rare for any of the 2023 hybrid test cars to operate without some form of malfunction each day.

Also, '100 Days to Indy' is happening on the CW. Didn't watch it last time.

In sports cars, The 20th BMW art car is set.
BMW Motorsport has revealed that the No. 20 Team WRT’s M Hybrid V8 Hypercar will race at the 2024 Le Mans 24 Hours as the brand’s 20th ‘Art Car’.

The one-off livery for the No. 20, which will be driven by Sheldon van der Linde, Robin Frijns, and René Rast, is set to be revealed at the Centre Pompidou in Paris, France on May 21st.

I love BMW art cars. Such a cool concept.

Supercross: Jett Lawrence returns to that whole winning as if it wasn't that big a deal. Apparently if the conditions are good, he's fine. I never got around to watching last weeks race where he fell over his handlebars. 5 races, 4 winners, top 6 are all within a few points of each other.

Rally: Well, it was the weekend of the 23hrs 58 1/2 minutes of Daytona but Thierry Neuville handily wins Monte Carlo for Hyundai.

Nitrocross has turned this coming weekends event into an non-points event over unseasonable warmth.
I gotta be honest, I didn't know this series still existed. Anyway, it's supposed to be a snow race, to make that warmth thing make sense.

This dude I don't know in a category I'm not familiar with did well at King of Hammers, an event I'm only vaguely aware of but kind of dig in concept.
Randy Slawson rose above 160 competitors to win the Every Man Challenge at the Progressive King of the Hammers Presented by Nitto and Powered by OPTIMA Batteries. The off-road veteran skillfully made his way through the infamous rock trails and flat-out desert sections to claim his first Every Man Challenge title to go with his three Nitto Race of Kings wins.

If you don't know what King of Hammers is, it's basically taking a desert off road race and a rock crawling competition and making them kiss.


So, that's that. Most seasons haven't started yet so it's still shuffling the decks etc. Lot of 'this driver is signing with these guys' kinda stuff that I'm never all that familiar with.

That's the weekend wrap up according to the articles I gleaned out of Racer and Racing News. I don't really have a goto for racing news. Honestly I don't spend much time with the behind the scenes so I learn most of the things when the commentators have to fill space during a 12 hours race.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:10 am

There was some kind of big deal sports ball thing going on that meant not a lot happened on wheels.

Supercross continues to be competitive with its fifth winner in six races. This time the top spot went to Ken Roczen who I don't know much about but has been around a bit and Jason Anderson in second with Jett Lawrence cruising to third after climbing up the field from about the mid-pack. With other past winners not getting out of the middle, that third place by Lawrence is good enough to give him the points lead going into a break. The championship remains super close.

There was drag racing somewhere but I really can barely be bothered with drag racing.



Next weekend is, of course, the...premiere of Extreme E racing, yeah!

Yeah, I didn't know either. Highlights are that Jimmie Johnson is joining an it's spec desert racing in electric SUVs...well, "SUVs"...after this first year it will switch to Extreme H where they'll do the races loaded on heroin.

I'm reading here that the cars will run on hydrogen. That's less exciting.

Oh, and I think a bunch of cars pretending to be Camaros, Mustangs, and Camrys will have a cute little sprint race at track the 24 Hours of Daytona was held at, 500 miles or so. Only taking three of the turns, though. Or maybe they'll make it a theme and it will be the Daytona 497.5

Anyway, here's the list of them. They start qualifying tomorrow.

Also, Malcom is gonna try and be all up in the middle of the XFinity series at Daytona.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:13 pm

Well, the Daytona 500 didn't happen until Tuesday with a first time winner. I couldn't stream it, so I didn't watch it. But the winner is part of what will be a new generation of drivers that started in the virtual world.

Testing has happened in Bahrain for F1 with Ferraris being quick before Hamilton even joins the team.

This came while the cars kept pulling up drain covers.

With the Daytona 500 out of the way we are underway.

If you have Fox Sports 1&2 you can catch the Craftsman Truck series and Xfinity Series qualifying in Atlanta today.

Tomorrow, Saturday.

More Bahrain testing on ESPN

More NASCAR qualifying on Fox Sports. The Xfinity and Truck series will both have their races later in the day, both on FS1

Trans Am gets underway at Sebring. This can be watched on MAVTV as well as Trans Am's youtube channel and the SpeedTourTV channel on YouTube which I'll admit I've never heard of. The other two outlets, sure. Watching a GT America race on MAVTV Pluto channel now reminded me to update the thread.

AMA Supercross will head to Dallas after a by-week, that's still on Peacock. Five winners in six races, championship points very close.

Sunday, Sunday, Sunday...

The Ambetter Health 400 out of Atlanta takes place on Fox for people who still have terrestrial tv.

The remaining 4 categories for Trans Am have their big run at Sebring, MAVTV et al.

For the Aussies, the Bathurst 500 is...now-ish? Use to be Motortrend TV would carry this but there's nothing coming up on the app.

Grabbing headlines as they grab me...

DJ Khaled maybe to join Pitbull and Micheal Jordan as celebrity NASCAR team owners.

'cause why not.

The Las Vegas GP encounters its most feared enemy, Bureaucracy.

IndyCar's switch to a hybrid power plant hits delays 'cause shit is complicated.

Speaking of street races, IndyCar will skip Nashville this year due to construction.

For the Lego fan in all of us, more Lego racing kits.


World Endurance Championship starts next week in Qatar.

Holy shit, I didn't know that DTM switched to sports cars...they don't get underway until April.

That's your racing weekend.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:23 am

Trans Am TA/2 is on its formation laps at Sebring on MAVTV (including the PlutoTV MAvTV and their YouTube channels.

TA2 is the silhouette series, cage cars wrapped in pretendy Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger bodies.

And heeeere we go.

EDIT: Well, the landing page said there were Dodges, but timing and scoring disagrees. Though, hilariously, it lists some manufacturers as 'yes'.

EDIT the Second: Connor Zilisch takes Silver Hare Racing's pretendy Camaro to victory. Zilisch's last time on track was in LMP2 at Daytona here he also won. Pretty good start of the year for the kid, who I think they said was 18. Also in the race, Boris Said Jr.

A trio of a trio of "Mustangs" from Nitro Motorsports who will run the whole season follow Zilisch. In order that's Tyler Gonzalez, Rafa Matos, and Thomas Annunziata. I know nothing about them.

Now, apparently, they're just letting people drive their cars in a slow procession around the track...I wanna do that.

EDIT the Third: 17, the kid is 17 years old.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:06 pm

I think this will be about when I give up on this thread as no one is interesting, but it was a whopper of a weekend for dramatic finishes.

I didn't get to see it, but the NASCAR Cup race ended three abreast with timing and scoring registering it as a tie. The win goes to Daniel Suarez

Over in Supercross Jett Lawrence was casually leading the 450 class like it was a Sunday drive until he got twisted in the air and lost first, very nearly got his position back before losing it again on the last turn ending in 4th. In 250s someone ragdolled into the wall after getting headbutted by his own handlebars.

The Bathhurst 500 happened. I didn't find a streamer.

Missed the second day of Trans Am as well as I overslept.

The 963 looks strong at Qatar.

Le Mans has the 2024 entry list out, 23 Hypercars. That, I am led to believe, is a record for the 21st century for entries in the top class. Haven't confirmed that. 16 LMP2s, one more than the minimum says the article. Another 23 LMGT3 entries.

LMh is bolstered by a heaping helping of Porsche 963 customer cars, on the other end of the spectrum Ferrari makes up the bulk of the GT brands, but there are like 9 brands. Checking my own math here...Ferrari, Porsche, Lexus, Corvette, BMW, Aston Martin, Mustang, McLaren, Lamborghini. Only two 911s and no AMG GTs...weird.

Formula 1 stuff.
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According to Marshall Pruett, Honda might be entering NASCAR.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:00 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:According to Marshall Pruett, Honda might be entering NASCAR.

Documentation.
Talk about a fourth manufacturer joining NASCAR is nothing new. Dodge has typically been the fan favorite to join Chevrolet, Ford, and Toyota, though we've been burned by those rumors enough over the last few years. Likewise, there have long been discussions about Honda potentially entering the top-flight Cup Series, but I've always considered that as likely as a snowstorm in Daytona on the Fourth of July. Maybe I shouldn't be so dismissive, though, because multiple recent reports point to Honda seriously weighing its decision to go stock car racing.

These rumblings were given more credence when veteran motorsport reporter Marshall Pruett mentioned Honda and NASCAR on his podcast earlier this week. Pruett mainly focuses on IMSA and IndyCar, not NASCAR, though Honda and its sub-brand Acura are hugely prominent in both series. He has arguably the closest relationships with these manufacturers of any journalist in the paddock, so when he talks about this stuff, it's worth paying attention to.

"I have a list—I wish I could tell you what's on it—of things that I know are in the works, could happen, are being discussed," Pruett said. "I would say for anybody who's followed the Honda thing a little bit in however many years past and seen it pop up here, keep following. If you're a Honda fan and you like NASCAR, you're probably going to be really happy in the future."


Given how important Acura has been to the Grand-Am come combined series owned by Bill France it makes sense that they would extend that relationship.

Dodge not being in the mix will forever be the weirdest shit to me. So much of Dodge/Plymouth mystique in the muscle car era is wrapped up in NASCAR. The two most iconic and insane NASCAR race cars ever built, the Charger Daytona and the Superbird, are MOPAR creations. Especially given how Dodge's shambling relevance is built around their retro muscle car pairings with the Charger and Challenger.

With NASCAR moving to a silhouette formula I have a hard time thinking of the cars as the names they painted on the side and an even harder time thinking of any of those cars as a 'Camry.' Painting "Accord" on the side will be about the same.

Anyone remember the time that VW thought about going for a NASCAR bid?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:45 am

The Qatar Airways Qatar 1812 Km is underway but already wins with the most awkward name for an event.

I completely forgot about it, missed the first two hours and took the 'stay asleep' pills for the insomnia that makes watching endurance sports cars so much easier...I'm gonna be in and out on this one.

Things are going well for me...Porsche Penske leads the race ahead of a privateer Porsche, a Peugeot, then the other privateer Porsche. Don't know what happened to the second Penske Porsche down in 9th. The Lamborghini LMh car is...doing its best.

Porsche at the moment leads GT3 but they're cycling pit stops.
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Postby Kerwa » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:50 am

I didn’t think Honda made a V8. Or maybe NASCAR changed the rules. Or maybe I am thinking of something else. I do seem to remember something about the manufacturers having to make a stock V8 at some point though.

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