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When might we be able to land on Mars?

Poll ended at Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:06 am

Mmm, give it a few more years, maybe around 2026-2030?
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Probably in the 30s-40s
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A little bit later
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Even later
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NEVER!!!
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Total votes : 33

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The Space Discussion Thread

Postby Unogonduria » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:08 am

Oh my...
I apologize to all of you that I am constantly creating "discussion threads" in the General Discussion Forum, but I just don't seem to find ones that are about the things I've created so far.

Anyways, welcome to the Space Discussion Thread!


This is the place to discuss all about the majestic cosmos and everything else space-related! I hope you do have a good time in here, as I personally think space is very interesting and there is a lot to talk about (in this thread).
Also, feel free to suggest polls about this discussion thread.

Enjoy!

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Postby Unogonduria » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:10 am

Notify me if there is such a thread that already exists.

Also yes, I took that picture
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Postby Lycom » Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:06 am

Great moon picture! What's your setup?

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Space...

the final frontier.

oh and heres this to get discussion going:
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The reality is that scientists don’t discover new planets. They were ejected into outer space by the Soviet government to trick the United States into funding a space race and therefore, spend less money on the military. It wasn’t until Jimmy Carter’s presidency when America realized we’ve been jiffed
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:53 pm

Planetary science is probably a favorite of mine, partially from the bountiful crop of exoplanets we've been getting, especially over the past ten years.

A gas giant with a surface hotter than some K-type stars, a year shorter than two days which hugs a B-type (very hot) star, and titanium vapor in the atmosphere

Larger worlds bridging the gap between small gas giants and terrestrial planets in the fuzzy categories of super-Earth and gas dwarf, some possibly being waterworlds with much deeper oceans than worlds like Earth.

Potential carbon-rich planets with mantles of diamond.

A gas giant which rains molten glass sideways in 8700 kph winds.

Plus that gas giant which might have a Neptune-mass moon which is also a gas giant.

Of course Trappist-1 too, with its seven terrestrial planets, multiple potentially Earth-like, at least some orbiting closely enough to exhibit visible disks in the sky.

It's all very fascinating.
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Postby Kerwa » Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:55 pm

Almighty Biden wrote:Space...

the final frontier.

oh and heres this to get discussion going:
Orbital Ring


I mean cool and stuff. But apart from the obvious problem in building it, it would be unstable in the plane of its orbit & also tidal forces from the moon.

Anyway, I’m holding out for a TARDIS, because I want to kick Pete Seeger in the nuts. Supercilious twat.

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Postby Eahland » Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:16 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:Potential carbon-rich planets with mantles of diamond.

This is how we get interstellar exploration funded. We just tell DeBeers that there are diamonds out there that they don't control.
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Postby Floofybit » Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:11 pm

We should invest resources for space only into defence of atseroids and solar stuff and ufos. Nothing beyond that.
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Postby Unogonduria » Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:26 am

Lycom wrote:Great moon picture! What's your setup?

Well, it's a black telescope, and it has the National Geographic logo on one side of it. I think it came from around the Czech Republic, since there were none of the store that were from Bulgaria at the time. I will ask mom for more details on it, but all I can say is that it (telescope), along with another thing I bought from the online strore, cost more than 450 levs.
I took the picture with my phone.
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Postby Unogonduria » Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:29 am

Floofybit wrote:We should invent money for space only into defence of atseroids and solar stuff and ufos. Nothing beyond that.

Why not? I think it'd be great to colonize Mars and the Moon, send astronauts to Europa and spacecraft to Titan and others; if I had the chance, I'd become a space paleontologist! But since there is no such thing yet, guess I'll resort to studying Earthly dinosaurs and others as such :(
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Mark 14:61-62 "But Jesus remained silent and gave no answer. Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?” “I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”"

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Postby Stella Nera » Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:29 am

Hooray for space! Finally, a chance for humanity to righteously expand and claim the universe as ours. Against the unknown alien species that may lurk there in the cosmos, humanity has the chance to stop its oppression amongst itself over arbitrary differences and instead focus on dominating other life forms like aliens! Space racism for the win! Though technically it isn't racist since aliens are not human.
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Postby Unogonduria » Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:34 am

Stella Nera wrote:Hooray for space! Finally, a chance for humanity to righteously expand and claim the universe as ours. Against the unknown alien species that may lurk there in the cosmos, humanity has the chance to stop its oppression amongst itself over arbitrary differences and instead focus on dominating other life forms like aliens! Space racism for the win! Though technically it isn't racist since aliens are not human.

More like human supremacist :p

Anyways, I think life in the universe might be pretty common - aside from the obvious ones in our Solar System like the gas giants' moons Europa and Titan, I think it's possible for systems such as the close Alpha Centauri and the TRAPPIST-1 system to host life :)
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Unogonduria wrote:
Lycom wrote:Great moon picture! What's your setup?

Well, it's a black telescope, and it has the National Geographic logo on one side of it. I think it came from around the Czech Republic, since there were none of the store that were from Bulgaria at the time. I will ask mom for more details on it, but all I can say is that it (telescope), along with another thing I bought from the online strore, cost more than 450 levs.
I took the picture with my phone.

The best way to describe a setup I've seen so far after seeing so many reddit posts griping about other people's setups

I got a telescope as an early Christmas present and have been using it to look at whatever planet was currently available to see whenever conditions were right. Jupiter and its moons have been cool, and so have Saturn's rings. Shame almost every day since then has been too damn cloudy or rainy to see more
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:43 am

Floofybit wrote:We should invent money for space only into defence of atseroids and solar stuff and ufos. Nothing beyond that.


Woah, what's this money thing? Sounds like a pretty radical invention.

And what's this about "Ufos" and "solar stuff". You might want to elaborate.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:50 am

Floofybit wrote:We should invent money for space only into defence of atseroids and solar stuff and ufos. Nothing beyond that.

Us never leaving Earth is deliberately choosing to die a preventable early death, considering that it reduces our maximum achievable lifespan to "passively waiting for the Sun to boil us alive".
Unogonduria wrote:
Stella Nera wrote:Hooray for space! Finally, a chance for humanity to righteously expand and claim the universe as ours. Against the unknown alien species that may lurk there in the cosmos, humanity has the chance to stop its oppression amongst itself over arbitrary differences and instead focus on dominating other life forms like aliens! Space racism for the win! Though technically it isn't racist since aliens are not human.

More like human supremacist :p

Anyways, I think life in the universe might be pretty common - aside from the obvious ones in our Solar System like the gas giants' moons Europa and Titan, I think it's possible for systems such as the close Alpha Centauri and the TRAPPIST-1 system to host life :)

Considering that life started practically the moment Earth became habitable but intelligent spacefaring life took over four billion years to evolve, I wouldn't be surprised if very simple life is extremely common throughout the universe while intelligence is incredibly rare.

Because of that, intelligence probably would also tend to evolve on more longer-lived worlds orbiting K-type and maybe M-type stars which last for tens of billions of years and provide more time for that to happen, so we might instead see most intelligence developing in the far future.
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Jan 21, 2024 2:44 pm

Unogonduria wrote:
Floofybit wrote:We should invent money for space only into defence of atseroids and solar stuff and ufos. Nothing beyond that.

Why not? I think it'd be great to colonize Mars and the Moon, send astronauts to Europa and spacecraft to Titan and others; if I had the chance, I'd become a space paleontologist! But since there is no such thing yet, guess I'll resort to studying Earthly dinosaurs and others as such :(

Needless waste of resources and extremely unsafe for travellers.
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Jan 21, 2024 2:46 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:We should invent money for space only into defence of atseroids and solar stuff and ufos. Nothing beyond that.


Woah, what's this money thing? Sounds like a pretty radical invention.

And what's this about "Ufos" and "solar stuff". You might want to elaborate.

Shoot typo. By solar stuff I mean things like solar flares. By UFOs I mean unidentified flying objects. I don't get what needs elaboration on UFOs.
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Jan 21, 2024 2:48 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Floofybit wrote:We should invent money for space only into defence of atseroids and solar stuff and ufos. Nothing beyond that.

Us never leaving Earth is deliberately choosing to die a preventable early death, considering that it reduces our maximum achievable lifespan to "passively waiting for the Sun to boil us alive".

There's no need to worry. The sun won't boil us alive any time soon. And plus, we won't be in this mortal realm long enough for that to happen. Plus, combatting human caused global warming here in Earth is a much better solution to screwing up another planet.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sun Jan 21, 2024 2:58 pm

Floofybit wrote:There's no need to worry.

Deliberately creating an arbitrary limit for us is absolutely a reason to worry. Restricting ourselves to Earth makes fixing the planet more difficult to do.
Floofybit wrote:The sun won't boil us alive any time soon.

Never too early to make plans.
Floofybit wrote:And plus, we won't be in this mortal realm long enough for that to happen.

There's no guarantee of that.
Floofybit wrote:Plus, combatting human caused global warming here in Earth is a much better solution to screwing up another planet.

1. The initial investments required for space exploration/colonization are miniscule compared to tinkering with Earth's environment...plus if we take a longer perspective, having more infrastructure to work with out there makes keeping Earth stable easier to do.
2. I'd imagine that we'd not be "screwing up" planets if we're actively working to fix Earth.

Space exploration/expansion is an asset for making Earth better, it's not a competitor.
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:22 pm

No need to apologize for such.

I too am a frequent thread maker.

I love space and my favorite planet would probably be Jupiter.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:24 pm

Jolthig wrote:No need to apologize for such.

I too am a frequent thread maker.

I love space and my favorite planet would probably be Jupiter.

Jupiter's a neat planet, especially if you factor in its wide variety of moons.

My personal pick would probably be Saturn, I find the planet itself along with its rings and Titan to be fascinating.
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:27 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Jolthig wrote:No need to apologize for such.

I too am a frequent thread maker.

I love space and my favorite planet would probably be Jupiter.

Jupiter's a neat planet, especially if you factor in its wide variety of moons.

My personal pick would probably be Saturn, I find the planet itself along with its rings and Titan to be fascinating.

Titan...the only moon with a thick atmosphere comparable to that of earth, with the exception that it's nitrogen and methane.
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:29 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Jolthig wrote:No need to apologize for such.

I too am a frequent thread maker.

I love space and my favorite planet would probably be Jupiter.

Jupiter's a neat planet, especially if you factor in its wide variety of moons.

My personal pick would probably be Saturn, I find the planet itself along with its rings and Titan to be fascinating.

Saturn could float in a celestial bathtub.
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