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What do you think of the American Revolution?

Postby Almighty Biden » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:08 pm

Hello again folks, I've decided to start another thread

well, folks, something i've noticed lately is that people like comparing the state of the states to 1790s france, 1930s germany, and bc 40s rome, citing everthing from rampant inflation, to class oppression, to exploitation of the working class, to wealth gaps, to moral decline, to you name it. what i think is worth discussing nationststes, is, is this a relevant concern? is the united states heading towards a revolution? if we are, what will this upgeaval look like? will it be political, social, cultural, militarial, or what? are we a republic, tottering on the brink of tyranny, waiting for the cliffs edge to clapse us into the abyss of empire? or are we an oppressive oligarchy, where the common wirking class has been exploited by "the Elites"TM, waiting for the last straw to fall on the camels back and break the system til the prple revolt? i personally honestly completely have no idea what the heck is going to happen, but i can guarentee that anything that happens during of after the '20s will br inertesting
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Postby Saarenmaa » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:11 pm

Almighty Biden wrote:Hello again folks, I've decided to start another thread

well, folks, something i've noticed lately is that people like comparing the state of the states to 1790s france, 1930s germany, and bc 40s rome, citing everthing from rampant inflation, to class oppression, to exploitation of the working class, to wealth gaps, to moral decline, to you name it. what i think is worth discussing nationststes, is, is this a relevant concern? is the united states heading towards a revolution? if we are, what will this upgeaval look like? will it be political, social, cultural, militarial, or what? are we a republic, tottering on the brink of tyranny, waiting for the cliffs edge to clapse us into the abyss of empire? or are we an oppressive oligarchy, where the common wirking class has been exploited by "the Elites"TM, waiting for the last straw to fall on the camels back and break the system til the prple revolt? i personally honestly completely have no idea what the heck is going to happen, but i can guarentee that anything that happens during of after the '20s will br inertesting


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Postby The Chads » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:11 pm

My friend pointed something out recently, the US looks deadly similar to Russia before WW1 and I can’t stop thinking about it

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Postby Almighty Biden » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:13 pm

The Chads wrote:My friend pointed something out recently, the US looks deadly similar to Russia before WW1 and I can’t stop thinking about it

we have a czar :blink:
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Postby Keltionialang » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:19 pm

Thought this would be about the actual one, but oh well.


Anyways, I do think that a second Revolution will eventually happen, but when, I am not sure. The main event that would need to happen are the older generations dying off. The older generations are the main ones holding up the American State, and if they go, the Republic goes. It will be extremists who cause the uprising, that's for certain. I am personally not too educated on this (or anything), so take this with half a grain of salt. The earliest date I can imagine it happening would be around 2040-ish, but otherwise, I don't think it'll be happening any time soon.

It is getting increasingly similar to the old societies, however. Eventually, the corps will get too much power, and that will be the event that actually triggers "Revolution". Again, I am not too educated on this, so my opinion may be objectively wrong.

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Postby Washington-Columbia » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:26 pm

I doubt that a Revolution would have the means to topple the US Government, without help. Even if a militia would have gained some significant track, and prove to be powerful enough to cause a battle in Washington DC, they're likely no match for a squadron of A-10s or F-22 Raptors and a military with a annual budget of over $700 billion. Let alone outside help and intervention.
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:26 pm

There is some tensions present between some of the communities within our country. I would say mainly in the big cities. Much of it has been present for the entirety of the existence of this country and some have also been caused by the state of our economy the past 40 years.

I wouldn't exactly say we are at the tipping point yet, especially in comparison to Somalia, Iraq, or Yemen, but there are some tensions as January 6 has shown. I don't think most Americans want to fight a civil war nor are they willing, but there are a handful that do.

I don't really have a solution to the problem as I am not that knowledgeable on the political atmosphere of US politics as someone who lives in the country, but I do hope we unite and remove some of the tensions present. There is definitely much reform that needs to be done to reverse the damage of the past 40 years.

I'm not sure what reform as I'm no political expert. Not on the level as some prominent NSGers (and yes, you've earned the title of expert from me lol), but I do think we need to regulate the banks, regulate the lobbyists present in our Congress, set term limits for our aging politicians and bring more youthful candidates to the seats of Congress.

There are multiple new laws that have gotten us to where we are for the past four decades, we need to write new laws to repeal those laws in order to bring the country back to a better place. Everyone tends to focus on the executive branch, but they forget it's the legislative branch that makes much of the laws in this country. I think with a consistent strategy between the executive and legislative (albeit with some difficulty coming from the trump-appointed judicial branch) we can make some great progress. But it has to be done consistently and not merely one law and then let everything else sit

Then, people also need to show interest in voting. Not just on presidential elections, but all elections so everyone is heard. That's what could help prevent a revolution. It's possible we could have one in a couple decades or so, but right now, in spite of January 6, two years ago, we haven't arrived at the point yet.
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Postby The Zirkovian Host » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:38 pm

Washington-Columbia wrote:I doubt that a Revolution would have the means to topple the US Government, without help. Even if a militia would have gained some significant track, and prove to be powerful enough to cause a battle in Washington DC, they're likely no match for a squadron of A-10s or F-22 Raptors and a military with a annual budget of over $700 billion. Let alone outside help and intervention.

Implying there aren't powerful countries that would dump billions into toppling the American government. And even if the U.S. has a military budget billions bigger than anyone else's, we've seen how effective that was in Afghanistan. An American revolution would have to last quite a while to be effective, but the American military isn't nearly as good at counter-insurgency warfare as it pretends to be.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:43 pm

The US is going through a rough patch, but a revolution or civil war isn't really on our conceivable horizon unless we have a black swan event crop up.
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Postby Order of Maesters » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:13 pm

The American Revolution was little more than an unjustified temper tantrum that went a bit too far and...

Oh. You mean present day revolution.

Well, for starters, its not a revolution. America's present difficulties are the result of a poisonous combination of economic dysfunction, social and racial cleavage that have never been healed meaningfully, and a deliberate anti-democratic trench run planned and perpetrated by the reactionary right over the series of several decades.
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Postby Almighty Biden » Mon Dec 04, 2023 9:52 am

Washington-Columbia wrote:I doubt that a Revolution would have the means to topple the US Government, without help. Even if a militia would have gained some significant track, and prove to be powerful enough to cause a battle in Washington DC, they're likely no match for a squadron of A-10s or F-22 Raptors and a military with a annual budget of over $700 billion. Let alone outside help and intervention.

What about a political revolution along the lines of hitlers roast to power? Is it possible to manipulate the system to institute a revolution of sorts within the government
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Postby New American Union State » Mon Dec 04, 2023 9:54 am

Overthrow the corrupt US government!
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Postby Kaumudeen » Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:00 am

At worst you will probably see a years of lead style campaign, or small scale uprisings.
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:19 am

New American Union State wrote:Overthrow the corrupt US government!

The FBI would like a word with you.

In all seriousness,
How would this be achieved?
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Postby Groknakioa » Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:23 am

im writing a book on it. "The American revolution and its consequences on the human race" 8)

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Postby Kaumudeen » Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:30 am

New American Union State wrote:Overthrow the corrupt US government!


Fed spotted.
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Postby Bradfordville » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:36 am

We are either headed toward or already in what I call the age of distrust. No one knows what is real and what's propoganda. Few people trust the government and even fewer trust there fellow Americans from across the political aisle. There's terror attacks and killings. People go missing and aren't ever seen again. Now the worst of this hasn't happened yet, but I predict that it will get more ugly as the years go by. It would be like the troubles but in America. You could say it's a small scale civil war or a guerilla war I'm predicting, but I don't expect us to have a high intensity conventional war here.
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Postby New American Union State » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:37 am

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Postby New American Union State » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:38 am

Jolthig wrote:
New American Union State wrote:Overthrow the corrupt US government!

The FBI would like a word with you.

In all seriousness,
How would this be achieved?

I’ll leave that to the smart people
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Postby Floofybit » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:38 am

New American Union State wrote:I AINT NO FEDERAL PIG

Sounds like fed talk
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:39 am

New American Union State wrote:
Jolthig wrote:The FBI would like a word with you.

In all seriousness,
How would this be achieved?

I’ll leave that to the smart people

Well, you can't have a revolution without a proper plan.

That's like a 13 year old communist me wanting a revolution. Lol
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Postby New American Union State » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:47 am

Floofybit wrote:
New American Union State wrote:I AINT NO FEDERAL PIG

Sounds like fed talk

Do they have feds on NS…?
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Postby The Zirkovian Host » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:52 am

New American Union State wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Sounds like fed talk

Do they have feds on NS…?

They do now
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Postby New American Union State » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:53 am

Why does everyone think I’m a fed :unsure:
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Postby Port Carverton » Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:07 pm

New American Union State wrote:Why does everyone think I’m a fed :unsure:

Because Fascism is idolatry of the state

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