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RU Supreme Court Declares LGBTQ Activism "Extremist"

Postby Makko Oko » Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:47 am

About 3 days ago on November 30th, Russia's top court declared that LGBTQ activism was extremist and banned the movement completely. Just yesterday, the effect that the ban had on the populace was seen with police raids on dozens of LGBTQ bars and establishments, what's the coorelation? Not really sure. To be honest I think Russia just wanted an excuse to "legally" persecute gays, and Putin forced the Supreme Court to do his bidding. Only a rumor though, unsubstaintiated.

Anyways, what are NSG's thoughts on this ruling? Was it politically motivated? Is it related to the war? What effect will it have on Russia's already piss poor economy? My thoughts on the ruling is that it is complete shit. They are creating targets to distract from the war so that way they aren't overthrown to hell and back.

"Russian society is soaked in fear. With every word you're crossing a mine field. Say one thing and it might land you in prison for five years; say something else, and you'll get 10 or 15 years behind bars."


Russia has truly become an Orwellian society imo. How long until thinkspeak becomes true?
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Postby Cessarea » Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:49 am

Makko Oko wrote:About 3 days ago on November 30th, Russia's top court declared that LGBTQ activism was extremist and banned the movement completely. Just yesterday, the effect that the ban had on the populace was seen with police raids on dozens of LGBTQ bars and establishments, what's the coorelation? Not really sure. To be honest I think Russia just wanted an excuse to "legally" persecute gays, and Putin forced the Supreme Court to do his bidding. Only a rumor though, unsubstaintiated.

Anyways, what are NSG's thoughts on this ruling? Was it politically motivated? Is it related to the war? What effect will it have on Russia's already piss poor economy? My thoughts on the ruling is that it is complete shit. They are creating targets to distract from the war so that way they aren't overthrown to hell and back.

"Russian society is soaked in fear. With every word you're crossing a mine field. Say one thing and it might land you in prison for five years; say something else, and you'll get 10 or 15 years behind bars."


Russia has truly become an Orwellian society imo. How long until thinkspeak becomes true?

LGBTQ is not even an existing legal organisation or even a unified movement. How any serious and unbiased court can make such a decision is beyond me.
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Postby True Heaven » Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:51 am

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Postby Greater Rostoria » Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:53 am

Cessarea wrote:
Makko Oko wrote:About 3 days ago on November 30th, Russia's top court declared that LGBTQ activism was extremist and banned the movement completely. Just yesterday, the effect that the ban had on the populace was seen with police raids on dozens of LGBTQ bars and establishments, what's the coorelation? Not really sure. To be honest I think Russia just wanted an excuse to "legally" persecute gays, and Putin forced the Supreme Court to do his bidding. Only a rumor though, unsubstaintiated.

Anyways, what are NSG's thoughts on this ruling? Was it politically motivated? Is it related to the war? What effect will it have on Russia's already piss poor economy? My thoughts on the ruling is that it is complete shit. They are creating targets to distract from the war so that way they aren't overthrown to hell and back.

"Russian society is soaked in fear. With every word you're crossing a mine field. Say one thing and it might land you in prison for five years; say something else, and you'll get 10 or 15 years behind bars."


Russia has truly become an Orwellian society imo. How long until thinkspeak becomes true?

LGBTQ is not even an existing legal organisation or even a unified movement. How any serious and unbiased court can make such a decision is beyond me.


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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:04 am

liberals when it's their turn to be called extremist and get banned :eek:
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Postby Makko Oko » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:12 am

Cessarea wrote:
Makko Oko wrote:About 3 days ago on November 30th, Russia's top court declared that LGBTQ activism was extremist and banned the movement completely. Just yesterday, the effect that the ban had on the populace was seen with police raids on dozens of LGBTQ bars and establishments, what's the coorelation? Not really sure. To be honest I think Russia just wanted an excuse to "legally" persecute gays, and Putin forced the Supreme Court to do his bidding. Only a rumor though, unsubstaintiated.

Anyways, what are NSG's thoughts on this ruling? Was it politically motivated? Is it related to the war? What effect will it have on Russia's already piss poor economy? My thoughts on the ruling is that it is complete shit. They are creating targets to distract from the war so that way they aren't overthrown to hell and back.

"Russian society is soaked in fear. With every word you're crossing a mine field. Say one thing and it might land you in prison for five years; say something else, and you'll get 10 or 15 years behind bars."


Russia has truly become an Orwellian society imo. How long until thinkspeak becomes true?

LGBTQ is not even an existing legal organisation or even a unified movement. How any serious and unbiased court can make such a decision is beyond me.


Its easy when you keep the decision classified. Then nobody can laugh at you and destroy your "legal opinion". :rofl:
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Postby Lazio-Toscana and Veneto-Lombardia » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:14 am

While I didn't expect anything else from Russia, it is kinda ridiculous. I mean, even North Korea doesn't have those laws, I don't think.
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Postby Mediama » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:20 am

Lazio-Toscana and Veneto-Lombardia wrote:While I didn't expect anything else from Russia, it is kinda ridiculous. I mean, even North Korea doesn't have those laws, I don't think.


Might not be out of the question, Cuba has similar laws thanks to Che Guevara, as does China I believe. I mean, what’s the point of having a ‘worker’s utopia’ when you run out of slaves workers?
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Cuba legalized gay marriage via referendum. While probably rigged, I do see it turning around

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Postby Cessarea » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:32 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:liberals when it's their turn to be called extremist and get banned :eek:

I guess every LGBT person is a liberal now. Hold on, I'm gonna immigrate to the US to become a member of the Democratic Party.
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:25 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:liberals when it's their turn to be called extremist and get banned :eek:

Yup, yup, Russia just "banned" an ideology and not a group of people.
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Postby Washington-Columbia » Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:48 pm

Cessarea wrote:LGBTQ is not even an existing legal organisation or even a unified movement. How any serious and unbiased court can make such a decision is beyond me.

Russia is protecting their traditional values, such as domestic abuse and shelling Ukrainian hospitals.
Seriously. It's filthy how in times of need, where countries have to stop waging war and pull out, and deal with horrible shit, that a few countries find the need to make the lives of a bunch of queer people to feel like absolute hell.

Dumb Ideologies wrote:liberals when it's their turn to be called extremist and get banned :eek:


THIS IS WHAT you're concerned about? Putin's regime gave police the power to be able to crack down on people for simply holding up signs that tell Russia to be more inclusive, and you're all like "they were libs"?
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Postby Hispida » Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:02 pm

Washington-Columbia wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:liberals when it's their turn to be called extremist and get banned :eek:


THIS IS WHAT you're concerned about? Putin's regime gave police the power to be able to crack down on people for simply holding up signs that tell Russia to be more inclusive, and you're all like "they were libs"?

you're funny.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:22 pm

It’s a ruling that’s compatible with the values, traditions and customs of the Russian people. While the western world has largely chosen to endorse, support, accept and promote the LGBT; this isn’t the norm in many other parts of the world (it’s not consistent with their religious and traditional systems). Every government should make the decisions that best represent the values of their majority, there is no obligation to adopt any one position on subjective issues regarding civil liberties. Every society must weigh the pros and cons and assess it through their own traditions and cultures.
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Postby Rusozak » Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:23 pm

Cessarea wrote:
Makko Oko wrote:About 3 days ago on November 30th, Russia's top court declared that LGBTQ activism was extremist and banned the movement completely. Just yesterday, the effect that the ban had on the populace was seen with police raids on dozens of LGBTQ bars and establishments, what's the coorelation? Not really sure. To be honest I think Russia just wanted an excuse to "legally" persecute gays, and Putin forced the Supreme Court to do his bidding. Only a rumor though, unsubstaintiated.

Anyways, what are NSG's thoughts on this ruling? Was it politically motivated? Is it related to the war? What effect will it have on Russia's already piss poor economy? My thoughts on the ruling is that it is complete shit. They are creating targets to distract from the war so that way they aren't overthrown to hell and back.

"Russian society is soaked in fear. With every word you're crossing a mine field. Say one thing and it might land you in prison for five years; say something else, and you'll get 10 or 15 years behind bars."


Russia has truly become an Orwellian society imo. How long until thinkspeak becomes true?

LGBTQ is not even an existing legal organisation or even a unified movement. How any serious and unbiased court can make such a decision is beyond me.


Like that's ever stopped persecution before.
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Infected Mushroom wrote:It’s a ruling that compatible with the values, traditions and customs of the Russian people. While the western world has largely chosen to endorse, support, accept and promote the LGBT; this isn’t the norm in many other parts of the world (it’s not consistent with their religious and traditional systems). Every government should make the decisions that best represent the values of their majority, there is no obligation to adopt any one position on subjective issues regarding civil liberties. Every society must weigh the pros and cons and assess it through their own traditions and cultures.


Cultural traditions shouldn't impact basic rights and freedom of association.
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Postby Cessarea » Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:32 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:It’s a ruling that compatible with the values, traditions and customs of the Russian people. While the western world has largely chosen to endorse, support, accept and promote the LGBT; this isn’t the norm in many other parts of the world (it’s not consistent with their religious and traditional systems). Every government should make the decisions that best represent the values of their majority, there is no obligation to adopt any one position on subjective issues regarding civil liberties. Every society must weigh the pros and cons and assess it through their own traditions and cultures.

Hmm... yes... the cons of not forcing people to repress their harmless sexual orientation.
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Postby Hispida » Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:41 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:It’s a ruling that compatible with the values, traditions and customs of the Russian people. While the western world has largely chosen to endorse, support, accept and promote the LGBT; this isn’t the norm in many other parts of the world (it’s not consistent with their religious and traditional systems). Every government should make the decisions that best represent the values of their majority, there is no obligation to adopt any one position on subjective issues regarding civil liberties. Every society must weigh the pros and cons and assess it through their own traditions and cultures.

there are no cons
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Postby Makko Oko » Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:00 pm

Washington-Columbia wrote:Russia is protecting their traditional values, such as domestic abuse and shelling Ukrainian hospitals.
Seriously. It's filthy how in times of need, where countries have to stop waging war and pull out, and deal with horrible shit, that a few countries find the need to make the lives of a bunch of queer people to feel like absolute hell.


Actually Russia recently turned 6 years old and learned right from wrong: https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/russia ... _permalink :clap:
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Saiwana wrote:I approve of this direction that Russia is taking. I plan to at minimum, implement a "don't ask don't tell" policy if this website comes under my management one of these days.

i would rather eat my own young alive like a hamster than run this website
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Postby Rusozak » Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:24 pm

Saiwana wrote:I approve of this direction that Russia is taking. I plan to at minimum, implement a "don't ask don't tell" policy if this website comes under my management one of these days.


And you wonder why no one trusts you with authority.
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