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Dumbia
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[IDK] Green warntext

Postby Dumbia » Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:40 pm

so I was just browsing through the WA forums when I saw this sh*t:
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this is moderation text but green. WTF does this mean and how is it done?
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Postby Improper Classifications » Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:44 pm

It's secret. GenSec only I believe. There's a tag for it like [warn] but it's probably not supposed to be used by the general public.
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Postby United Calanworie » Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:31 pm

It's done with *** GA Science *** just like how we have *** Mod Science. *** In all seriousness, it's a custom BBCode tag. Please don't use it unless you're a member of the Secretariat.
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Postby Dumbia » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:35 pm

United Calanworie wrote:It's done with GA Science just like how we have Mod Science. In all seriousness, it's a custom BBCode tag. Please don't use it unless you're a member of the Secretariat.

You just used the [warn] tag, and my warning level didn't rise up, how come?
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Postby La Xinga » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:49 pm

Dumbia wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:It's done with GA Science just like how we have Mod Science. In all seriousness, it's a custom BBCode tag. Please don't use it unless you're a member of the Secretariat.

You just used the [warn] tag, and my warning level didn't rise up, how come?

The tag isn't a magic way to make people's levels rise up!

And I believe one can quote mod posts with red text without having to edit them.
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Postby United Calanworie » Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:21 pm

Dumbia wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:It's done with GA Science just like how we have Mod Science. In all seriousness, it's a custom BBCode tag. Please don't use it unless you're a member of the Secretariat.

You just used the [warn] tag, and my warning level didn't rise up, how come?

Because I didn't hit the button to add a warning to your user.
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:58 pm

United Calanworie wrote:
Dumbia wrote:You just used the [warn] tag, and my warning level didn't rise up, how come?

Because I didn't hit the button to add a warning to your user.

Will a user be punished for doing so? It's not in the OSRS (like the mod tag is), so perhaps it should be placed there alongside the mod tag?
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Postby The United Bengali States » Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:55 pm

La Xinga wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:Because I didn't hit the button to add a warning to your user.

Will a user be punished for doing so? It's not in the OSRS (like the mod tag is), so perhaps it should be placed there alongside the mod tag?

I don’t think that’s technically possible of a kind.

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Postby La Xinga » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:01 pm

The United Bengali States wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Will a user be punished for doing so? It's not in the OSRS (like the mod tag is), so perhaps it should be placed there alongside the mod tag?

I don’t think that’s technically possible of a kind.

Why not?
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Postby Volstrostia » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:09 pm

La Xinga wrote:
The United Bengali States wrote:I don’t think that’s technically possible of a kind.

Why not?

Most websites allow the administrator to set role information alongside the user data, and only allow certain roles to have access to certain functions. Your user account doesn't have the "admin" attribute (or whatever equivalent applies) set, so the site knows not to even show you the buttons that would do admin-y things, and even if you somehow forged a request to do them, it would go "hey wait, this person isn't an admin!" and ignore the request.
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:36 pm

Volstrostia wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Why not?

Most websites allow the administrator to set role information alongside the user data, and only allow certain roles to have access to certain functions. Your user account doesn't have the "admin" attribute (or whatever equivalent applies) set, so the site knows not to even show you the buttons that would do admin-y things, and even if you somehow forged a request to do them, it would go "hey wait, this person isn't an admin!" and ignore the request.

I am extremely confused. The warn tag is specifically mentioned in the OSRS to not be used. Users are able to use both tags, and people who have used it have gotten warned for in the past. I asked whether a penalty is imposed on a player who uses the WA tag, and if they do get penalized, it should be also stated in the OSRS.

I suppose my mind has been conveyed unclearly . . . again. :(
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Postby United Calanworie » Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:52 am

I'm not sure if we've ever considered putting it in the OSRS at all. GenSec barely uses it as is, it's not like they *** post with this tag *** to tell users that they're being bad, unlike *** moderators. ***
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Postby Sporaltryus » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:00 pm

United Calanworie wrote:I'm not sure if we've ever considered putting it in the OSRS at all. GenSec barely uses it as is, it's not like they *** post with this tag *** to tell users that they're being bad, unlike *** moderators. ***

If the mod team doesn't want users to use the WA tag, in the same fashion as them not wanting users to use the Warn tag, then it's not really a big drain on resources to add a line about it to OSRS.
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Postby The United Bengali States » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:32 pm

Sporaltryus wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:I'm not sure if we've ever considered putting it in the OSRS at all. GenSec barely uses it as is, it's not like they *** post with this tag *** to tell users that they're being bad, unlike *** moderators. ***

If the mod team doesn't want users to use the WA tag, in the same fashion as them not wanting users to use the Warn tag, then it's not really a big drain on resources to add a line about it to OSRS.

If you don't mind, what is OSRS?

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Postby Improper Classifications » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:34 pm

The United Bengali States wrote:
Sporaltryus wrote:If the mod team doesn't want users to use the WA tag, in the same fashion as them not wanting users to use the Warn tag, then it's not really a big drain on resources to add a line about it to OSRS.

If you don't mind, what is OSRS?

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Postby The United Bengali States » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:49 pm

Improper Classifications wrote:
The United Bengali States wrote:If you don't mind, what is OSRS?

The one stop rules shop.

Forgot again, I am so dumb rn, thanks for the reminder.

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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:35 pm

The OSRS now says the following:

*Impersonation of moderators or administrators can lead to immediate deletion. Note that using Moderation's Custom Warning Tags in your posts is deemed impersonating a moderator. *** Don't use the moderation red-text warning tags. *** Similarly, do not impersonate other staff members such as Issues Editors or General Assembly Secretariat members, and do not use the *** GenSec ruling code. ***

Hopefully that satisfies everyone's curiosity.

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Postby Dumbia » Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:08 pm

Sedgistan wrote:The OSRS now says the following:

*Impersonation of moderators or administrators can lead to immediate deletion. Note that using Moderation's Custom Warning Tags in your posts is deemed impersonating a moderator. Don't use the moderation red-text warning tags. Similarly, do not impersonate other staff members such as Issues Editors or General Assembly Secretariat members, and do not use the GenSec ruling code.

Hopefully that satisfies everyone's curiosity.

Woah, I didn't know a question like this could change a rule of the OSRS.
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The Dumbian Times ☭ | 1. A tribe was found in the east of Kolkostrov, known as the Korostrov tribe, more tribes were discovered after that, including Samestrov, Romostrov, etc. All tribes' names follow a suffix: -strov. | 2. Fire starts in west Samestrov buildings, local Samestrov tribals say that this is a "ritual", according to their glyphs. | 3. Dumbia is finally peaceful after wildfire ends

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Postby Eluvatar » Mon Dec 04, 2023 5:31 pm

It doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen pretty often.
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Postby La Xinga » Mon Dec 04, 2023 6:49 pm

Sedgistan wrote:The OSRS now says the following:

*Impersonation of moderators or administrators can lead to immediate deletion. Note that using Moderation's Custom Warning Tags in your posts is deemed impersonating a moderator. *** Don't use the moderation red-text warning tags. *** Similarly, do not impersonate other staff members such as Issues Editors or General Assembly Secretariat members, and do not use the *** GenSec ruling code. ***

Hopefully that satisfies everyone's curiosity.

Thank you Sedge!
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"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
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Postby Thal Dorthat » Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:44 pm

Are there any other warntexts/ruling code/code besides the Secratriat's and the Moderators'?
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Postby United Calanworie » Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:06 pm

No. I suppose we could give the IEs one just to make them feel special, though.
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Postby The Ambis » Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:23 pm

United Calanworie wrote:No. I suppose we could give the IEs one just to make them feel special, though.

I support this. Just a yellow text that they could use for… edits?
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Mon Dec 04, 2023 9:11 pm

[editor] no, those stat changes are not a bug [/editor]
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