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Best Debater?

Arch
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29%
Alger
42
46%
Galloism
6
7%
Kowani
6
7%
Other
11
12%
 
Total votes : 91

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Jolthig
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Best Debater On NSG?

Postby Jolthig » Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:43 pm

Who is/was the best debater on NSG? I'm not sure if this would be considered part of the memorable NSers thread (as no one has posted in it for months so I want to try something slightly different in regards to the best debaters).

NSG has obviously, a long history. Many users have come and go, and many changes have come within the past years. I happened to join NSG (although I did participate occasionally in the past) in 2018, and have been posting on and off ever since. I've witnessed many changes, but in all my interactions with the people in my opinion, the best debaters of NSG, I would have to give it to Galloism. Probably the GOAT of debating on here. He will throw nothing but pure academic research and facts at you, and there is no way to refute him in an argument. He is the top tier and the walking embodiment of how to properly conduct a debate.

Another good debater I would have to give it to Vistulange because while we may have our differences in our views, I do respect him for speaking academically on various subjects, and reminding me the best way to conduct any debate is to look at the facts, and use facts to back opinions, even if we both don't see eye to eye on a lot of things.

Ifreann comes to mind as well. He's been on here ever since I joined this forum. I like his stance on prison reform although I must admit, I don't pay attention to him enough not interact but his post about prison reform alone is a standout for me.

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MauzerX
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Postby MauzerX » Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:45 pm

Definitely not me. Most good debaters I think are The Archregimancy, Alger, Picairn, Farnhamia and many others.
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Postby Querria » Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:49 pm

Obviously Alger.
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Postby Almighty Biden » Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:51 pm

arch obvs
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Postby Cyptopir » Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:53 pm

I'm voting Alger because he's the great God-Emperor so he must be good at everything
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Postby Dantek » Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:53 pm

Never have I thought I would have ever seen the word 'best' and NSG in the same sentence
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Postby New Temecula » Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:53 pm

Eternal Algerstonia, because satire and random = good argument.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:54 pm

We use to have a lot of good ones. Now Gravlen and Arch are so far and away better than anyone else it's not even close. It helps that they both demonstrate a monstrous level of patience. Some poster with a Z name...like...Zuk something or other...I'm not 100% sure I've seen that cat debate but they've been great at keeping things current. I don't know if that's the same one that does like...pavilions? I don't know...has some name for elections happening and their results. Again, don't know that I've seen them debate but at least I know what's going on. Sort of, I think they write those posts as if we knew the players and following links doesn't always help.

After that there are a handful that don't suck then there's the rest of us.
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Postby Picairn » Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:56 pm

Impossible, everyone knows that the entry requirement for NSG is to abandon your brain at the gates.

Anyway, Arch and Kowani.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:01 pm

Picairn wrote:Impossible, everyone knows that the entry requirement for NSG is to abandon your brain at the gates.

Anyway, Arch and Kowani.

Oh yeah, Kowani. I don't really have an impression of them but I slowdown and will at least glance at their posts so I assume they're consistent enough to warrant attention.
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Postby Jolthig » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:04 pm

I forgot about Arch...he's very knowledgeable in his fields. I think he mentioned to me years ago, he's an archaeologist. Am I correct, Arch?
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Postby Querria » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:20 pm

Jolthig wrote:I forgot about Arch...he's very knowledgeable in his fields. I think he mentioned to me years ago, he's an archaeologist. Am I correct, Arch?


Correct. He's am an ancient immortal made of bones who does modeling work for memes on the side.
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Postby Vikanias » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:26 pm

Ofc it’s our god emperor Alger
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:36 pm

Kowani's the first name that comes to mind for me, though I haven't seen him around for a while, so I'm not sure if he's still active.
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Postby Jewish Partisan Division » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:47 pm

NSG has a surprising amount of good debaters. However, I believe Alger is one of the best one due to his use of satire. It's a real breath of fresh air to see someone who doesn't take themselves or their arguments so seriously. Another one who qualifies as one of the best is Arch due to his vast amount knowledge he has on a lot of subjects.

Those are the only two I nominate since I haven't been on NSG long enough to see anymore debaters who are outstanding.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:56 pm

aLGER IS THE MASTER DEBATER.
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Postby Keltionialang » Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:59 pm

Haha, me, of course!


Seriously though, probably Arch. I don't go on NSG much, but they're definitely the best debater of the few that exist.

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Postby Magical Puppet » Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:02 pm

Suprising amount of Alger supporters here.

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Postby Dantek » Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:23 pm

Magical Puppet wrote:Suprising amount of Alger supporters here.

It's Alger ffs
It shouldn't be surprising
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Postby Querria » Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:37 pm

Magical Puppet wrote:Suprising amount of Alger supporters here.


Alger is love, alger is life.
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Postby Luziyca » Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:13 am

While Arch is easily the best debater on NSG, and Kowani is a close runner-up, I'd argue that Sibirsky is probably the third best debater that NSG ever had: if I recall correctly, they won a silver medal in some kind of NSG competition for "best debater" in the late 2000s/early 2010s, and were pretty active on NSG until around 2015 or so when they stopped participating on NSG.
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Sai.

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