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Are owning Weapons besides guns a good idea?

Yes. We should absolutely do it.
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43%
Sort of yes, but needs to be regulated
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36%
No.
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Other
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Owning Weapons Other Than Guns

Postby NPCA » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:52 pm

Nearly 10 years ago, I've made a thread titled, Owning Weapons Other Than Guns. Now, I wish to revive interest in this subject by establishing a part 2 of this topic. I will note, my views have rather and somewhat changed since the last thread 10 years ago.

What do you think of owning Weapons besides guns? Like middle launchers, tanks, grenades, etc. A good idea?

Here is my take: We could do it. The pros of this idea is that with weapons being in the hands of the people, although admittedly, only a small handful would even be able to afford these in the first place, is that the people would be able to act in the case of if the government becomes tyrannical or too strict. It's basically a check in the government, just as guns would be.

The cons however, especially In contrast to what I have said ten years ago, is, it may not be a good idea, or perhaps, it should be heavily regulated lest we become a Syria or Afghanistan. While there would be those who would protect the citizens from any perceived tyranny of the government, at the same time, these same weapons could get into the hands of Muslim fundamentalists, neo-Nazis, KKK, African American supremacists, communists, etc. Or even worse, the gangs. It could potentially increase the already high tensions among the people.

Perhaps we could allow weapons other than guns, but in a very regulated and efficient manner that only the trustworthy could handle them.

Good idea?
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:56 pm

You should be allowed to own zero weapons.
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Postby Cerespasia » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:58 pm

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:59 pm

We should mandate all citizens owning a shield and spear.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:00 pm

Floofybit wrote:You should be allowed to own zero weapons.

No problems here
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:01 pm

Floofybit wrote:You should be allowed to own zero weapons.

My body is a weapon. And buddy, it's unregulated.
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Postby Ioudaia » Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:01 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:We should mandate all citizens owning a shield and spear.

It has the virtue of being traditional.

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Postby Bombadil » Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:14 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:You should be allowed to own zero weapons.

My body is a weapon. And buddy, it's unregulated.


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Postby Kerwa » Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:15 pm

One of my neighbors has a cannon. Full size and everything. He never fires it though. :madface:
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Postby Worm Mong » Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:20 pm

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Postby Andronya » Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:26 pm

Yes.
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Postby Saarenmaa » Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:39 pm

When a state becomes tyrannical, the possession of guns by citizens can lead to endless civil war, as seen in the politics of African countries. Easy access to guns can also allow terrorist or extremist groups to get hold of them. Even with a total ban on firearms, they can still be obtained from abroad. The cultural and political climate, as well as the standard of living and number of migrants, will also influence the legalization of guns. In general, the root of the crime problem is not the availability of guns, but the standard of living of citizens. It is possible to legalize pepper spray, stun guns, and telecoptic sticks, if such a need arises. Only the state should have a monopoly on violence.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:41 pm

Guns are not, and should not, be the only recourse to arms. They may be the most effective form of arms in the modern world--or, at least effective enough for governments across the world to claim and/or enjoy an absolute monopoly on them--but in most circumstances, they are overkill, and I say this as someone who categorically views state monopolies on arms as authoritarian swill, put charitably.
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Postby Torisakia » Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:24 pm

I always carry a pocket knife with me everywhere I go. It's actually a better idea to carry around a knife rather than a gun. Think about it: if you point a gun at someone, they can easily disarm you. But if you attack them with a knife, chances are someone isn't going to put their hand up to stop the blade (unless they know their tae-kwon-do).

If no knife is available I always have my nunchucks with me.

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Postby Gaybeans » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:18 am

I really want a sword and archery set. I don't care about defence, I just think they're cool.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:23 am

While blades can, and have been used in ethnic conflicts (hi Sampit), riots, and other violent confrontations alike, we shouldn't ban them as it's harder to commit mass murder with them, so even commoners can be trusted with them.
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Postby Jolthig » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:02 am

Definitely not a good idea, regulated or not. As part of the peace process I often advocate for, we should be doing the opposite - working towards world disarming. At least for like tanks, artillery, etc.

Knives are ok. I mean there's already laws that regulate such use.
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Postby American Legionaries » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:16 am

NPCA wrote:Nearly 10 years ago, I've made a thread titled, Owning Weapons Other Than Guns. Now, I wish to revive interest in this subject by establishing a part 2 of this topic. I will note, my views have rather and somewhat changed since the last thread 10 years ago.

What do you think of owning Weapons besides guns? A good idea?

Here is my take: We could do it. The pros of this idea is that with weapons being in the hands of the people, although admittedly, only a small handful would even be able to afford these in the first place, is that the people would be able to act in the case of if the government becomes tyrannical or too strict. It's basically a check in the government, just as guns would be.

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Perhaps we could allow weapons other than guns, but in a very regulated and efficient manner that only the trustworthy could handle them.

Good idea?


I own many weapons other than firearms. Swords, bows, polearms, blunt weapons like maces or hammers, axes, and polearms.

While it's a rather extemsive collection, these things are hardly weapons in function. They're really just sports equipment to me and anyone else playing along. And while capable of being used in their ancient role as martial arms, they're very ineffective for that purpose today.

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Postby NPCA » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:19 am

And regarding owning tanks, rocket launchers, and missiles? This was the main thing I was aiming for in the OP

Of course the less lethal and non explosive weapons are cool, though but looks like given I posted late last night, I forgot to mention the exact weapons I was even intentionally mentioning here, hence why the regulation.

Some understood the intention of the OP though.
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Postby American Legionaries » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:23 am

NPCA wrote:And regarding owning tanks, rocket launchers, and missiles? This was the main thing I was aiming for in the OP

Of course the less lethal and non explosive weapons are cool, though but looks like given I posted late last night, I forgot to mention the exact weapons I was even intentionally mentioning here, hence why the regulation.

Some understood the intention of the OP though.


Weapons like that would obviously have a far more limited use than firearms. I can't well stop a carjacker with an RPG launcher.

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Postby Bradfordville » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:29 am

I own a can of bear mace as well as a very large and sharp knife. That on top of a breechloader, a baretta APX-A and a glock 19. You can never be too careful.

Oh you mean other weapons as in stronger shit than guns. Yeah, we should legalize owning a full fledged tank. No one is gonna come near my home then.
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Postby Bradfordville » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:31 am

A m e n r i a wrote:While blades can, and have been used in ethnic conflicts (hi Sampit), riots, and other violent confrontations alike, we shouldn't ban them as it's harder to commit mass murder with them, so even commoners can be trusted with them.


Why don't we ban cars though? You can kill a whole bunch of people in the dodge durango if you decide one day that everything is fucked and everybody sucks.
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Postby East African Federation 2022RP » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:36 am

Bradfordville wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:While blades can, and have been used in ethnic conflicts (hi Sampit), riots, and other violent confrontations alike, we shouldn't ban them as it's harder to commit mass murder with them, so even commoners can be trusted with them.


Why don't we ban cars though? You can kill a whole bunch of people in the dodge durango if you decide one day that everything is fucked and everybody sucks.

Who said we shouldn’t?
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