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The Display Of American Flags On Personal Vehicles,etc.

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What do you think of the display of the flag on trucks, etc?

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The Display Of American Flags On Personal Vehicles,etc.

Postby NPCA » Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:18 am

Let's make a thread talking about the use of the American flag on individual's personal vehicles, their shirts, or anywhere.

I would've simply brought this discussion into the main America thread, but I'm specifically referring to just the display of the flag on vehicles.

Anyway, I'm referring to, whenever one goes on the countryside, you may see trucks flying around with American (or even MAGA) flags on them. The people that live there proudly display their great (and perhaps fanatical love) for their country. Or the same individuals always wearing American flags on their shirts.

Or if you see rock stars like Red Nugent and Kid Rock, proudly displaying the American flag on their personal equipment and gear.

These individuals when displaying the flag constantly on their personal things, feel as if the country is going down a bad path or that they're defending the nation from an apparent influx of foreign influences and illegal immigrants taking over the country and using up America's resources.

What does NSG think of such people? Proud patriots? Full of themselves and their delusions?

I'm all for the display of such things. These people are proud patriots who show their great love for this country. God bless them.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:42 am

I think it’s weird more than anything.

Like I don’t see gratuitous flag display as either good or problematic, but mostly just odd. They even make flag underwear (as Robin Williams once said, “oh grandma don’t tell me where Old Glory is”).

It strikes me as a person with little sense of identity besides the collective one, that they can’t find a symbol or saying or style they like that feels represents themselves and their personality and has to go for some large collective display of being one of the “group” instead.

Just my two cents.
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Postby The Selkie » Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:49 am

NPCA wrote:[...]
What does NSG think of such people? Proud patriots? Full of themselves and their delusions?
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To be honest, when I encounter such people, with flags on their car, I wonder what big international sports tournament is this month again. You see, I'm German and usually, the only time you see people driving around with the German flag on their cars is during Football World Championships or European Championships... unless of course it's the Federal President, but Frank Walter and his colleagues are special. ; )
If it is, however, specifically about Americans with flags on their cars - if they feel, that they have a need to display their nationality or allegiance to political movements (for instance via MAGA-flags) in such a way, then why should I be bothered?
As an aside, 'proud patriots' are usually full of themselves and their delusions, in my opinion. ; )
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:43 am

If they want to display a flag, it's their own business. It doesn't necessarily make them immature or some such.

I have one on the wall in my home for aesthetics and I don't consider myself a huge flag-waver.
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:50 pm

NPCA wrote:What does NSG think of such people? Proud patriots? Full of themselves and their delusions?

All of the above.

In the future I might hang up Floofybit flags around my house just for the silliness.
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Postby Sadakoyama » Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:14 pm

As an American, these people are making me despise the American flag. The people where I live that display it with the most consistency and enthusiasm, especially the ones that put it on their cars, very often pair it with Trump flags, the "thin blue line" pro-police flags (which read fascist) and sometimes confederate or even Nazi flags.
On Sept 12, 2001, I saw a truck dragging two huge American flags, six feet long at least, from wholly inadequate staves in the bed. There were three middle age men in the bed armed with rifles or shotguns, waving them in the air and shouting. I presume they felt they were "on patrol" against further attacks, despite the fact we were 2,000 miles from New York. It was a chilling sight. Three days later, the Sikh owner of a gas station I drove by everyday was murdered.
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Postby Jolthig » Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:28 pm

Sadakoyama wrote:As an American, these people are making me despise the American flag. The people where I live that display it with the most consistency and enthusiasm, especially the ones that put it on their cars, very often pair it with Trump flags, the "thin blue line" pro-police flags (which read fascist) and sometimes confederate or even Nazi flags.
On Sept 12, 2001, I saw a truck dragging two huge American flags, six feet long at least, from wholly inadequate staves in the bed. There were three middle age men in the bed armed with rifles or shotguns, waving them in the air and shouting. I presume they felt they were "on patrol" against further attacks, despite the fact we were 2,000 miles from New York. It was a chilling sight. Three days later, the Sikh owner of a gas station I drove by everyday was murdered.

Oof, that's rough.

Almost as identical as terrorists displaying their flags all over the place.

Anyway, what I personally think of people displaying flags is that sure, it's fine. Might be a bit over the top given I tend to associate them with more aggressive views for what America should be. However, it just depends on the intention of one who displays a flag. Any flag as I proudly display the flag of Islam Ahmadiyyat on here and some Christians display cross flags or Jews with the star of David.
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Postby Golgothastan » Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:32 pm

Seems silly, this isn't even America so why have an American flag on your truck.

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Postby Eahland » Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:05 pm

As a general rule, unless it's the Fourth of July or something and they're in a parade, the people driving around with huge American flags flying from their vehicles aren't patriots; they're fascists who have co-opted the symbol while working to destroy everything that symbol stands for.

If it's a MAGA flag, that's not merely a general rule.

There's an asshole around here who drives around with a "FUCK BIDEN" flag mounted on the trunk of his car. He once tried to run me down in the grocery store parking lot, apparently just because he thought it would be funny to make me jump out of the way.
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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:31 pm

I think it is patriotic. I do not like the Fuck Joe Biden Flags. I am a Republican and I think we should be classier than that. I much prefer "Let's Go Brandon!" flags. What is really weird are the combination Confederate Battle Flags and Republican themed flags in the North. That makes my brain hurt. The Confederate Battle Flag is a very Democrat Party kinda thing. It makes a weird combination. If it is happening in the North it is even weirder.

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Postby Bovad » Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:33 pm

Glorious Freedonia wrote:I think it is patriotic. I do not like the Fuck Joe Biden Flags. I am a Republican and I think we should be classier than that. I much prefer "Let's Go Brandon!" flags. What is really weird are the combination Confederate Battle Flags and Republican themed flags in the North. That makes my brain hurt. The Confederate Battle Flag is a very Democrat Party kinda thing. It makes a weird combination. If it is happening in the North it is even weirder.

Democrats and republicans effectively switched several decades ago.
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Postby Second Dimetrodon Empire » Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:35 pm

Bovad wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:I think it is patriotic. I do not like the Fuck Joe Biden Flags. I am a Republican and I think we should be classier than that. I much prefer "Let's Go Brandon!" flags. What is really weird are the combination Confederate Battle Flags and Republican themed flags in the North. That makes my brain hurt. The Confederate Battle Flag is a very Democrat Party kinda thing. It makes a weird combination. If it is happening in the North it is even weirder.

Democrats and republicans effectively switched several decades ago.


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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:46 pm

Bovad wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:I think it is patriotic. I do not like the Fuck Joe Biden Flags. I am a Republican and I think we should be classier than that. I much prefer "Let's Go Brandon!" flags. What is really weird are the combination Confederate Battle Flags and Republican themed flags in the North. That makes my brain hurt. The Confederate Battle Flag is a very Democrat Party kinda thing. It makes a weird combination. If it is happening in the North it is even weirder.

Democrats and republicans effectively switched several decades ago.

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Postby Bovad » Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:47 pm

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Bovad wrote:Democrats and republicans effectively switched several decades ago.

Nah. Party of Lincoln forever, Baby!

Denying reality yet again, I see.
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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:52 pm

Bovad wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:Nah. Party of Lincoln forever, Baby!

Denying reality yet again, I see.

Well, things definitely got switched in the South. I do not think that had as big of an effect up North though.

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Postby Bovad » Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:53 pm

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Bovad wrote:Denying reality yet again, I see.

Well, things definitely got switched in the South. I do not think that had as big of an effect up North though.

Try again.
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Postby Eahland » Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:56 pm

Glorious Freedonia wrote:I think it is patriotic. I do not like the Fuck Joe Biden Flags. I am a Republican and I think we should be classier than that. I much prefer "Let's Go Brandon!" flags. What is really weird are the combination Confederate Battle Flags and Republican themed flags in the North. That makes my brain hurt. The Confederate Battle Flag is a very Democrat Party kinda thing. It makes a weird combination. If it is happening in the North it is even weirder.

Yeah, you're like fifty years out of date here. After LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act, the racist Dixiecrats abandoned the Democrats in droves and became Republicans (see: Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms), while the liberal Republicans either retired or left the party, so the Republicans are now the party of racism and bigotry, waving the treason rag and murdering black men for jogging. You understand that there's a reason that the "Solid South" has gone from being a place where they'd "rather vote for a yeller dog than a Republican" to being deep red territory, while Vermont, once by far the reddest state in the Union, rather suddenly flipped to being one of the bluest?
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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:12 pm

Nevertheless, Party of Lincoln, baby!

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Postby Bovad » Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:14 pm

Glorious Freedonia wrote:Nevertheless, Party of Lincoln, baby!

Still denying reality, I see.
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:16 pm

Glorious Freedonia wrote:I think it is patriotic. I do not like the Fuck Joe Biden Flags. I am a Republican and I think we should be classier than that. I much prefer "Let's Go Brandon!" flags. What is really weird are the combination Confederate Battle Flags and Republican themed flags in the North. That makes my brain hurt. The Confederate Battle Flag is a very Democrat Party kinda thing. It makes a weird combination. If it is happening in the North it is even weirder.

Call a person around here with a confederate flag a democrat and you're likely to get beaten up.

Anyway, yeah, it's gaudy at best IMO.
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Postby Eahland » Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:31 pm

Glorious Freedonia wrote:Nevertheless, Party of Lincoln, baby!

There is no more Party of Lincoln. There is only the Party of Trump.

I mean, I guess there's still some remnants of the Party of Reagan around, but Trump calls them "RINOs" and has called for them to be imprisoned or murdered, and he has an insurmountable lead in the Republican primary, so.
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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:34 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:I think it is patriotic. I do not like the Fuck Joe Biden Flags. I am a Republican and I think we should be classier than that. I much prefer "Let's Go Brandon!" flags. What is really weird are the combination Confederate Battle Flags and Republican themed flags in the North. That makes my brain hurt. The Confederate Battle Flag is a very Democrat Party kinda thing. It makes a weird combination. If it is happening in the North it is even weirder.

Call a person around here with a confederate flag a democrat and you're likely to get beaten up.

Anyway, yeah, it's gaudy at best IMO.


I did ask a guy with a confederate battle flag hat if he was a Democrat. He said he was not but he just liked to wear it to piss off Black people for some reason.

I think if you are from the South it is ok, but if you are from the North it is unpatriotic and un-Republican as all get out.

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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:35 pm

Eahland wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:Nevertheless, Party of Lincoln, baby!

There is no more Party of Lincoln. There is only the Party of Trump.

I mean, I guess there's still some remnants of the Party of Reagan around, but Trump calls them "RINOs" and has called for them to be imprisoned or murdered, and he has an insurmountable lead in the Republican primary, so.


Trump is a bit of a weirdo but he seemed to do a pretty good job as President.

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Postby Bovad » Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:36 pm

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Call a person around here with a confederate flag a democrat and you're likely to get beaten up.

Anyway, yeah, it's gaudy at best IMO.


I did ask a guy with a confederate battle flag hat if he was a Democrat. He said he was not but he just liked to wear it to piss off Black people for some reason.

I think if you are from the South it is ok, but if you are from the North it is unpatriotic and un-Republican as all get out.

Well you're wrong.

Wow that's pretty rascist.
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Postby Bovad » Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:36 pm

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Eahland wrote:There is no more Party of Lincoln. There is only the Party of Trump.

I mean, I guess there's still some remnants of the Party of Reagan around, but Trump calls them "RINOs" and has called for them to be imprisoned or murdered, and he has an insurmountable lead in the Republican primary, so.


Trump is a bit of a weirdo but he seemed to do a pretty good job as President.

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