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[SCRAPPED] Declaration on Pirates

Postby 0cala » Fri Sep 29, 2023 6:30 pm

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The Security Council,

Recognizing the long-standing threat posed by pirates to the shipping industry, endangering the lives of sailors and causing significant financial losses,

Acknowledging the urgent need to take decisive action to halt pirate attacks and protect cargo and passenger ships,

Encourages all Member nations to bolster the defense of ships against pirate invasions, employing advanced security measures and technologies;

Further encourages Member nations to collaborate in the pursuit of capturing pirates, alive or dead, by instituting a global bounty system to incentivize their apprehension;

Declares pirates to be enemies of the World Assembly, urging Member nations to exercise the right to self-defense by authorizing the use of force against pirates at sea, with the aim of neutralizing the threat they pose;

Calls upon Member nations to deploy well-trained and equipped military personnel on cargo and passenger ships operating in pirate-infested waters, providing a robust defense against pirate attacks;

Requests Member nations to cooperate in intelligence sharing, maritime patrols, and joint naval exercises to enhance the collective effort in combating piracy;

Urges Member nations to strengthen international legal frameworks and extradition agreements to ensure that pirates are held accountable for their criminal actions;

Calls for the establishment of an international task force dedicated to combating piracy, facilitating coordination between Member nations and providing logistical support to enhance the effectiveness of anti-piracy operations;

Encourages Member nations to provide financial and technical assistance to countries affected by piracy, enabling them to enhance their maritime security capacity and effectively combat piracy within their territorial waters;

Calls upon the international community, including regional organizations and relevant stakeholders, to support anti-piracy initiatives, including capacity-building programs, information sharing, and collaborative efforts to address the root causes of piracy;

Urges the World Assembly to establish a comprehensive monitoring and reporting mechanism to track the progress made in combating piracy, identifying emerging trends, and fostering the exchange of best practices among Member nations;

Further requests that the Security Council regularly review the effectiveness of anti-piracy measures and consider additional steps to strengthen the global response to piracy, with the aim of ensuring a safe and secure maritime environment for all.

I'll take suggestions and advice :p
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Postby Varanius » Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:14 pm

This falls under GA territory, not SC declarations.
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Postby 0cala » Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:41 pm

Varanius wrote:This falls under GA territory, not SC declarations.

it has SC related stuff inside of it, so, i'll keep it in the SC for now.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:27 pm

0cala wrote:
Varanius wrote:This falls under GA territory, not SC declarations.

it has SC related stuff inside of it, so, i'll keep it in the SC for now.

Then make sure it is fully related to either the SC or GA premises. As of now, you'd be better off with a GA angle.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:31 pm

0cala wrote:
Varanius wrote:This falls under GA territory, not SC declarations.

it has SC related stuff inside of it, so, i'll keep it in the SC for now.

Wrong. It’s not SC, it’s GA - but I don’t expect you to listen.

Edit 1 : knowing the author has form in the use of AI generated text I ran their draft through an AI detection website. Seems that most of this draft is AI generated, from about “Calls upon Member nations…” onwards.

Edit 2: checked two or three different sites and the probability of the text being AI generated was between 76% and 89%. Not a slam dunk, but suggests a high probability of the author cheating.
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Postby 0cala » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:43 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
0cala wrote:it has SC related stuff inside of it, so, i'll keep it in the SC for now.

Wrong. It’s not SC, it’s GA - but I don’t expect you to listen.

Edit 1 : knowing the author has form in the use of AI generated text I ran their draft through an AI detection website. Seems that most of this draft is AI generated, from about “Calls upon Member nations…” onwards.

Edit 2: checked two or three different sites and the probability of the text being AI generated was between 76% and 89%. Not a slam dunk, but suggests a high probability of the author cheating.

I wrote it, the AI enhanced it.

"Unholy Crusader" Lizandria (Private in the NPA Militia) wrote:I fight for the north, not because i despise raiders, but because It's my homeland.

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0cala wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Wrong. It’s not SC, it’s GA - but I don’t expect you to listen.

Edit 1 : knowing the author has form in the use of AI generated text I ran their draft through an AI detection website. Seems that most of this draft is AI generated, from about “Calls upon Member nations…” onwards.

Edit 2: checked two or three different sites and the probability of the text being AI generated was between 76% and 89%. Not a slam dunk, but suggests a high probability of the author cheating.

I wrote it, the AI enhanced it.

So cheating. At least you didn’t lie about it this time.
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Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby 0cala » Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:06 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
0cala wrote:I wrote it, the AI enhanced it.

So cheating. At least you didn’t lie about it this time.

Nothing about it is cheating, it just enhanced my words so you can understand it better.

"Unholy Crusader" Lizandria (Private in the NPA Militia) wrote:I fight for the north, not because i despise raiders, but because It's my homeland.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:09 am

0cala wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:So cheating. At least you didn’t lie about it this time.

Nothing about it is cheating, it just enhanced my words so you can understand it better.

Bullshit. Use your own words or don’t bother.
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Postby 0cala » Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:14 am

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0cala wrote:Nothing about it is cheating, it just enhanced my words so you can understand it better.

Bullshit. Use your own words or don’t bother.

The Security Council,

Pirates have been a terrorizing folktale in the old ages, but still manage to terrorize the shipping industry by raiding and intercepting many cargo and passenger ships to this day.

NOTING a need to stop pirates from terrorizing the shipping industry and saving millions of dollars and dozens of sailors as well.

ENCOURAGING Membering nations to enhance the protection of cargo and passenger ships to withstand pirate invasion in the near future.

The World Assembly declares as following:
1. Placing a bounty for any pirates at the seas for the purpose of capturing them alive or dead.
2. Declaring Pirates to be an enemy to the World Assembly, and encouraging membering nations to fire at will at any pirates at sea.
3. Also encouraging membering nations to equip cargo and passenger ships with heavy military personnel in waters where pirates also dwell.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:22 am

While I dislike it, rules are rules and 3b would make the proposal as it stands (both the AI version and the original) illegal. If you wish to enhance your proposal, then you should make it more relevant to the Security Council (perhaps try and draw in NS' long obsession with piratey things? RP, issues, gameplay, whatever, a lot of people have done pirate-related things and could be worthy of inclusion in a potential declaration).

Also, if you wish to use AI to enhance the content of your proposal (which isn't really a good idea in general for WA proposals in general, especially the SC which requires NS-specific content) I would strongly recommend not copying and pasting it word for word. The output and language are subpar and are easily detected, which just leads to poorer quality resolutions and stokes up unnecessary arguments. Just get the general ideas if you REALLY need to use ChatGPT, and write it in your own words.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:53 am

OP, I would heavily discourage the use of any AI software in any stage of your draft making. Not only are you taking ideas from an AI generator (which also doesn't account for additional context and just writes a dry-pasted robotic statement), but you are also depriving yourself of using your own words and writing techniques to enhance your work. Declarations are where you can be creative with your narrative and words, yet you are limiting yourself.
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Postby The Seven levels of Heaven » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:00 pm

0cala wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Wrong. It’s not SC, it’s GA - but I don’t expect you to listen.

Edit 1 : knowing the author has form in the use of AI generated text I ran their draft through an AI detection website. Seems that most of this draft is AI generated, from about “Calls upon Member nations…” onwards.

Edit 2: checked two or three different sites and the probability of the text being AI generated was between 76% and 89%. Not a slam dunk, but suggests a high probability of the author cheating.

I wrote it, the AI enhanced it.


Quite a turn from the last thread where you swore up and down that you didn't nor couldn't use AI software, saying that it even had its own special blocked category. Can you please pick a lane and stay in it?


But since you're actually freely admitting to using it now, that already makes me against on principle, regardless if it's "enhancing" your words or not. I'd much rather see bills in your own words rather than one that feels like an AI made it.

Beyond that though, as mentioned...this is far more fitting in the GA anyways regardless if it has SC elements in it...so even on that basis, I'm against it.
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:17 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:While I dislike it, rules are rules and 3b would make the proposal as it stands (both the AI version and the original) illegal. If you wish to enhance your proposal, then you should make it more relevant to the Security Council (perhaps try and draw in NS' long obsession with piratey things? RP, issues, gameplay, whatever, a lot of people have done pirate-related things and could be worthy of inclusion in a potential declaration).

Also, if you wish to use AI to enhance the content of your proposal (which isn't really a good idea in general for WA proposals in general, especially the SC which requires NS-specific content) I would strongly recommend not copying and pasting it word for word. The output and language are subpar and are easily detected, which just leads to poorer quality resolutions and stokes up unnecessary arguments. Just get the general ideas if you REALLY need to use ChatGPT, and write it in your own words.


I agree with this! I hope 0cala can listen to posts like yours and Outer Sparta's, and tune out the more hostile and combative criticism by players like Bhang Bhang Duc and Penguin Dictactors, because it's obvious their kind of approach doesn't help her.
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Postby The Ice States » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:34 pm

Having come to the author's defense both publicly and elsewhere during the Liberate Alterante mess, I am rather disappointed in them for resuming AI use for WA resolutions. The original draft mentioned here is very different from the one in the OP; and while I appreciate the author at least stating that the draft was sourced from Chatgpt, it is still very much plagiarism, even if not in the rules sense (an application of the rules I and others have disagreed with), to have Chatgpt or other like AI to contribute this substantively to a proposal.

Given that AI use on a GA proposal was one of the main arguments against the author in Liberate Alterante, eg [1], and even players such as Quebecshire indicated that them not viewing it as enough of an issue to merit opposing that proposal was the result of it not being continued,[2] it seems that they ought to have learnt not to use generative AI for future proposals, even if purely for the sake of appearances. As mentioned by Penguin Dictators, this also especially casts doubt on the author's assertions regarding AI use in the threads for both Liberate Alterante and Repeal "Wetland Protection Protocol".

Regarding why this is an issue, I would largely copy what I stated in a Moderation thread on the matter. The problem with such proposals is two-fold. Firstly, people writing "their" proposals simply by copying text generated by an AI, rather than authors writing the text themselves, fundamentally degrades the fun and engaging nature of the WA, as players no longer have to do any real work to write their proposals. However, more importantly, it represents persons taking credit for work which is not theirs. Players should not get badges or the clout from authorship for work they did not do. Submitting text from eg a Wikipedia article is (rightfully) considered plagiarism, both by the rules and the general game community; while the former ostensibly does not apply to Chatgpt-generated proposals, the latter certainly does and should.

I would strongly discourage the author from continuing AI use in proposals, although I would not be surprised if the opposition from I and others is disregarded.
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Postby The Seven levels of Heaven » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:52 pm

Angeloid Astraea wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:While I dislike it, rules are rules and 3b would make the proposal as it stands (both the AI version and the original) illegal. If you wish to enhance your proposal, then you should make it more relevant to the Security Council (perhaps try and draw in NS' long obsession with piratey things? RP, issues, gameplay, whatever, a lot of people have done pirate-related things and could be worthy of inclusion in a potential declaration).

Also, if you wish to use AI to enhance the content of your proposal (which isn't really a good idea in general for WA proposals in general, especially the SC which requires NS-specific content) I would strongly recommend not copying and pasting it word for word. The output and language are subpar and are easily detected, which just leads to poorer quality resolutions and stokes up unnecessary arguments. Just get the general ideas if you REALLY need to use ChatGPT, and write it in your own words.


I agree with this! I hope 0cala can listen to posts like yours and Outer Sparta's, and tune out the more hostile and combative criticism by players like Bhang Bhang Duc and Penguin Dictactors, because it's obvious their kind of approach doesn't help her.


Ah, telling folks I'd very much rather see their own words rather than flavored with AI is considered hostile and combative now? On top of the fact that I also said in the last thread that I do hope that 0cala took that thread as a lesson and continued to make resolutions since they were already a step up from many of the newbie authors?

Good to know. So if I'm guessing by your standards, if there's even remote criticism against a practice, it's automatically combative and should be ignored.
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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:04 pm

Varanius wrote:This falls under GA territory, not SC declarations.

This is correct. The whole premise of the proposal fails Rule 3b.

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Postby 0cala » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:05 pm

scrapped due to obvious reasons.

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Postby The Seven levels of Heaven » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:16 pm

0cala wrote:scrapped due to obvious reasons.

Like I said, regardless of the AI stuff, I do hope you continue making resolutions, because I do think you're already a step up and could easily make some headway into being a regular contributer like Tinhampton or some of the other regulars. Just please trust in your own words a bit rather than relying on an AI to do it for you, because you may find your own style could completely trump what an AI will do.
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Postby 0cala » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:20 pm

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0cala wrote:scrapped due to obvious reasons.

Like I said, regardless of the AI stuff, I do hope you continue making resolutions, because I do think you're already a step up and could easily make some headway into being a regular contributer like Tinhampton or some of the other regulars. Just please trust in your own words a bit rather than relying on an AI to do it for you, because you may find your own style could completely trump what an AI will do.

Who said i was quitting?

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Angeloid Astraea wrote:
I agree with this! I hope 0cala can listen to posts like yours and Outer Sparta's, and tune out the more hostile and combative criticism by players like Bhang Bhang Duc and Penguin Dictactors, because it's obvious their kind of approach doesn't help her.


Ah, telling folks I'd very much rather see their own words rather than flavored with AI is considered hostile and combative now? On top of the fact that I also said in the last thread that I do hope that 0cala took that thread as a lesson and continued to make resolutions since they were already a step up from many of the newbie authors?

Good to know. So if I'm guessing by your standards, if there's even remote criticism against a practice, it's automatically combative and should be ignored.


Now you're being combative with me. =P
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:51 pm

Angeloid Astraea wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:While I dislike it, rules are rules and 3b would make the proposal as it stands (both the AI version and the original) illegal. If you wish to enhance your proposal, then you should make it more relevant to the Security Council (perhaps try and draw in NS' long obsession with piratey things? RP, issues, gameplay, whatever, a lot of people have done pirate-related things and could be worthy of inclusion in a potential declaration).

Also, if you wish to use AI to enhance the content of your proposal (which isn't really a good idea in general for WA proposals in general, especially the SC which requires NS-specific content) I would strongly recommend not copying and pasting it word for word. The output and language are subpar and are easily detected, which just leads to poorer quality resolutions and stokes up unnecessary arguments. Just get the general ideas if you REALLY need to use ChatGPT, and write it in your own words.


I agree with this! I hope 0cala can listen to posts like yours and Outer Sparta's, and tune out the more hostile and combative criticism by players like Bhang Bhang Duc and Penguin Dictactors, because it's obvious their kind of approach doesn't help her.

Hostile and combative? Interesting. So calling out a cheat is combative is it? Well that’s good, because I don’t like cheats.

As far as helping the author - a player that’s lost 13 nations and seems to be teetering on the edge of being DoS (reading between the lines of a post by Sedge) is beyond help as far as I’m concerned.
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Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:56 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Hostile and combative? Interesting. So calling out a cheat is combative is it? Well that’s good, because I don’t like cheats.

As far as helping the author - a player that’s lost 13 nations and seems to be teetering on the edge of being DoS (reading between the lines of a post by Sedge) is beyond help as far as I’m concerned.

So you know they're teetering on the edge of being DoS, you know they respond poorly to your kinds of posts, and you still came in here to try to bait them into an angry rule-breaking response. Stay classy. =P
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:01 pm

Angeloid Astraea wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Hostile and combative? Interesting. So calling out a cheat is combative is it? Well that’s good, because I don’t like cheats.

As far as helping the author - a player that’s lost 13 nations and seems to be teetering on the edge of being DoS (reading between the lines of a post by Sedge) is beyond help as far as I’m concerned.

So you know they're teetering on the edge of being DoS, you know they respond poorly to your kinds of posts, and you still came in here to try to bait them into an angry rule-breaking response. Stay classy. =P

Classier than you, always. And if they can’t control their behavior that’s down to them, nobody else.
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RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:26 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Angeloid Astraea wrote:So you know they're teetering on the edge of being DoS, you know they respond poorly to your kinds of posts, and you still came in here to try to bait them into an angry rule-breaking response. Stay classy. =P

Classier than you, always. And if they can’t control their behavior that’s down to them, nobody else.

Hopefully one day you can control yours. =]
JOY TO THE WORLD
CAN YA HEAR ME?

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