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Postby Magna Cascadia » Sat Sep 23, 2023 1:22 pm

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West Vancouver, North Cascadia, Union of Cascadian States

It was an unusual day in Vancouver, the capital of the Cascadian Union. For one thing, it wasn't raining, which President Morgan hoped was a good sign. He stood outside the "Government House", his official residence in the neighbourhood of West Vancouver, casually pacing at the bottom of the steps leading up to the front door. Government House was a modest two-story dwelling overlooking English Bay - large enough to host government officials and the cadres, but for the residence of a head of state, it was rather modest. Outside, it was actually a surprisingly pleasant day - a soft breeze blew in across the water, and the sun shone gently through soft fluffy clouds, which cast cool shadows upon the ground below. For that, Morgan was grateful. It would do to be sweaty today and he couldn't stand heat, much to the chagrin of his Lebanese ancestors, he was sure. He was dressed in his typical get-up - green army fatigues, with the shoulder insignia of a Commandant General, and freshly polished black combat boots. As this was a special occasion, he was wearing an army green cap, also emblazoned with his rank. He'd vowed long ago not to take off his uniform until Cascadia was truly free, and excluding the necessary exceptions to this promise, he'd kept his word.

Around him were soldiers from his Presidential Guard, standing at attention on either side of him. They were some of the finest and most loyal soldiers the Union had to offer, hand-picked by Morgan from the men and women who had fought beside him during the Southern Campaign. As far as Morgan was concerned, there were no more formidable warriors in all of North America. None more worthy of his trust. They stood unflinching at his side, and lining the red carpet that ended at Morgan's feet. With his guard, he felt just a little bit safer. He'd kill any one of them for a cigarette, though.

But it was best not to risk ruining his first impression. That brought Morgan to the second thing unusual about today - the man he was meeting. His home had hosted many foreign dignitaries since he'd come to power, emissaries from nations supporting the Cascadian cause, with whom he'd drank and smoked, laughed and discussed strategy and politics. But never before had he opened his door to entities naturally inclined to oppose him. Corporations had been brought down across Cascadia by the might of organized labour, but arriving before him shortly was a man who had taken on the world, not in the people's revolution, but with his wallet and unquenchable greed. Morgan still wasn't quite sure what to expect, though the press was sure to have a field day with this. Reporters already occupied his driveway waiting to catch a glimpse of his meeting with Nexus Ravenworth, like ants searching for crumbs. A greater man would have played the role of exterminator, Morgan thought to himself. He could have given each and every reporter in Cascadia cement shoes and thrown them into the inlet. But Morgan was not that man, he thought after catching himself. He had morals, he respected the value of human life... Even the lives of these parasites to scared to life a rifle for their country.

"They're almost here, Comrade President." Harrison Prince, Morgan's chief of security said after pressing a finger to his earpiece.

"Excellent," Morgan straightened his uniform and brushed his beard with his hand, "Let's see how this goes."
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Postby Nobilis Ashevilla » Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:03 pm

The distant hum grew louder, soon accompanied by the rhythmic chugging of a powerful engine. The reporters, previously buzzing with anticipation, now turned their lenses towards the horizon, trying to capture the first glimpse of the approaching marvel.

Emerging from the soft haze was a magnificent sight: the re-activated Pennsylvania Railroad class S1 steam locomotive. Its sleek design, reminiscent of a bygone era, was juxtaposed with the futuristic glow emanating from its undercarriage. The sub-warp drive system, a technological marvel, allowed the locomotive to hover just above the ground, moving seamlessly without the need for tracks. Steam rose high and proud from its chimney, signalling its arrival with a triumphant whistle that echoed across the bay.

As the locomotive came to a gentle stop, a hush fell over the crowd. The door slid open, and out stepped Chairman Nexus Ravenworth. Dressed impeccably in a tailored suit, he radiated an aura of confidence and power. His eyes, sharp and calculating, scanned the surroundings, taking in the grandeur of Government House and the soldiers lining the red carpet.

Walking down the steps of the locomotive, Nexus paused for a moment, allowing the reporters to capture his image against the backdrop of the majestic steam engine. "A blend of the past and the future," he mused aloud, referring to his mode of transport. "Much like the world we find ourselves in."

His intention was clear. By arriving in such a grand and technologically advanced manner, Nexus aimed to make a statement. He was here to challenge the very foundations of the Cascadian Union's beliefs, not with force, but with the power of Neo-Corporatism. The locomotive, a symbol of progress and innovation, was his opening argument.

Approaching the entrance of the Government House, Nexus prepared himself for the impending debate. He was confident in his beliefs and the power of Neo-Corporatism. Today, he hoped to plant a seed of doubt in the minds of the Cascadian Union's leaders and show them a different path forward.
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Postby Magna Cascadia » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:23 pm

Already showing off, Morgan chuckled to himself, though he had to admit he was rather impressed. Of course, he knew a man with more money than Morgan could dream of touching in ten lifetimes would no doubt have some fancy toys to play with, but there was a part of Morgan that wished he could play too. But he knew these things were not for him, for in the fine craftsmanship of this locomotive, in the moulded metal and steam engine, was the blood of the working class. Men and women had laboured on this contraption, given days, weeks, or even months of their time to see it created, all so some aristocrat could win a dick-measuring contest. In that, of course, he had won, for this machine outclassed Morgan's Honda by magnitudes. But at what cost?

The press was loving it, of course, capturing his every step to be published in tomorrow's paper. While many took pictures, the flash of the cameras lighting up Morgan's front lawn, others furiously scribbled 'A blend of the past and the future' on their tablets. Morgan himself appeared to remain unfazed, however. A slight grin tugged at the corners of his mouth as he waited for Ravenworth to approach him. When he was finally an arm's length away, Morgan extended his hand to shake.

"Chairman," Morgan smiled, "Welcome to the home of the People's Revolution." He spoke loud enough for the press to hear him. Then, in a more hushed tone, he said "Now, if you'll allow me, let me take you away from these vultures, eh?" He smiled at the cameras as he directed Ravenworth inside. The interior of Government House was spartan in its decor, with sparse furniture and the occasional painting on the wall. A close inspection would show that few of these paintings were original, most being replicas of classics, save for the few produced by local artists.

After a brief stroll, they found themselves in a small sitting room. A packed bookshelf lined the far wall, while two large sofas sat to the left and right, in between which was a coffee table. "I wasn't sure if you drank," Morgan took his seat on the sofa to his left, "But I've learned that the best debates are held over a glass of whiskey. And considering I have a fairly decent bottle in my cellar, I'd be the worst kind of host if I didn't offer you one. If you'd like I could have it brought up before we start."
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Postby Nobilis Ashevilla » Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:07 am

Nexus Ravenworth, with his imposing shark demonoid features, stepped confidently towards Morgan. As he moved, the metallic gleam of his cybernetic hands, extending from the sleeves of his tailored suit, caught the light, hinting at the advanced technology that lay beneath the fabric. His thick fin tail made a high-class, sweeping motion, emphasizing his regal presence.

When Morgan extended his hand, Nexus took it, giving a firm handshake. His toothy grin, filled with sharp, predatory teeth, was both intimidating and oddly charming. "President Morgan," Nexus began, his voice smooth yet carrying an underlying strength, "Thank you for the warm welcome."

As Morgan mentioned the whiskey, Nexus raised a hand gracefully, declining the offer. "I appreciate the gesture, but I abstain from alcohol. I find it clouds the opportunistic mind," he replied with a hint of amusement in his eyes.

The two men settled into the sitting room, the atmosphere thick with anticipation. Nexus took a moment to appreciate the simplicity of the room, noting the replicas and the few original artworks by local artists. It was clear that this was a place of deep thought and reflection.

"Shall we begin our discussion?" Nexus inquired, his eyes sharp and ready for the debate ahead.
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Postby Magna Cascadia » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:31 am

"I see no reason to delay further." Morgan made himself comfortable, "Allow me to begin then. Let's consider, for a moment, your machine outside. It's very impressive, I'll admit. Far beyond what we are capable of in Cascadia, But how did it come to be? I'm certain you will say it is your brainchild... if not yours, one of your clever associates, and that it couldn't exist without the man who conceived of it. But did you shape the metal, or build the engine? Hell, are you the engineer who figured out that snazzy hover technology? I'd reckon there's some part of its creation you were not directly involved in. Just as you had the idea, there are men and women without whom, likewise, this machine could not exist. It was a collective effort. Now let me be clear, I'm no fanatic Marxist who will say that all labour produces the same value, but I nevertheless can ask how you have earned the right to be a trillionaire while those poor souls who've laboured make crumbs in comparison. Are they not entitled to the sweat on their brow, a fair share of what their labour produces?"
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Postby Nobilis Ashevilla » Sun Sep 24, 2023 11:44 am

Nexus Ravenworth leaned back, taking a moment to consider Morgan's words. His cybernetic hands, visible at the end of his suit sleeves, clasped together as he formulated his response.

"President Morgan, you raise a valid point, and it's one I've given much thought to over the years," Nexus began, his voice calm and measured. "The creation of such a machine, or any product for that matter, is indeed a collective effort. I won't deny that. But Neo-Corporatism, the ideology I champion, recognizes this and seeks to address it."

He continued, "In a traditional corporate structure, yes, there's often a vast disparity between the earnings of the top executives and the workers. But Neo-Corporatism aims to bridge this gap. It's not about individual wealth accumulation, but rather about creating a system where everyone benefits from the collective success of the corporation. The workers, the engineers, the designers – everyone has a stake in the success of the company and is rewarded accordingly."

Nexus leaned forward slightly, his shark-like eyes focused intently on Morgan. "The machine outside, while a marvel of engineering, is also a symbol of what can be achieved when everyone works together towards a common goal. Those who contributed to its creation were compensated fairly, not just in monetary terms, but also in terms of job security, benefits, and opportunities for growth."

He paused, letting his words sink in. "I believe in rewarding hard work and innovation. But I also believe in creating a system where everyone has the opportunity to succeed and benefit from the collective achievements of the corporation. That's the essence of Neo-Corporatism."

Nexus finished with a slight smile, "As for being a trillionaire, wealth in itself is not the end goal. It's what you do with it that matters. And I've always strived to use my resources to drive innovation, create opportunities, and uplift communities."
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Postby Magna Cascadia » Sun Sep 24, 2023 1:30 pm

"Your slaves are treated well." Morgan laughed, "It's more than I've come to expect from capitalists... Though I suppose I've not met many Neo-Corporatists. But I'm afraid you're not going to sell it to me on the promise of increased benefits. In Cascadia, medical and dental expenses are borne by the state, and profit sharing is enjoyed by everyone from office clerks to line workers in factories. Furthermore, there's no greater benefit a worker can enjoy than knowing you and your comrades outnumber your manager, and if you feel unsatisfied with your work, you can demand better conditions - not as one man, but as a united front. There's dignity in taking what's yours, as opposed to being coddled by the richest man in the world like an adult child. And I firmly believe little matters for the working class the a fair day's wage. It makes me wonder what exactly your lowest pions make an hour."

"And I have no doubt you've pushed for innovation - just minutes ago I saw as much when your steam engine came up my driveway. And money is meant to be spent. I've been commanding men since I was 21 and learned through that that money is as important to the war effort as men and rifles and tanks. Every cent I have made since then has gone back into Cascadia - buying munitions and paying my soldiers and such." Morgan leaned forward, "And I don't have a trillion dollars burning a hole in my wallet. Granted, I doubt I would if I saved every penny I've so much as looked at, but my point is, you are right - wealth is a means to an end. A tool to be used to better those around them. But your fortunes strike me more as a dragon's horde. You don't mean to tell me you're saving it for some even grander endeavour, do you? I don't know of anything that costs that much money."
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Postby Nobilis Ashevilla » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:13 pm

Nexus Ravenworth listened intently, his shark-like eyes never leaving Morgan's. When Morgan finished, Nexus took a deep breath, maintaining his calm demeanor.

"President Morgan, I understand your perspective, and I respect it," Nexus began. "But let me clarify a few things. At WonderTech, our lowest-paid workers, depending on the department, subsidiary, or division, earn a minimum of $500 an hour. Apprenticeships start at $25 an hour. And let me emphasize, WonderTech requires no degrees. We believe in talent and potential. We train anyone who shows promise, and as they prove their efficiency and capability, they are trusted with more complex projects."

He paused for a moment, letting the numbers sink in. "That's significantly higher than the national average. We ensure that every employee, regardless of their position, is compensated fairly for their contributions. It's not about coddling; it's about recognizing and rewarding talent and hard work."

Nexus leaned back, his cybernetic hands resting on his lap. "As for my wealth, I see it as a responsibility. Every dollar is reinvested into research, development, and innovation. It's used to create opportunities, uplift communities, and drive progress. My goal is not to hoard wealth but to use it as a tool to make a positive impact."

He looked directly at Morgan, his gaze unwavering. "I believe in a system where everyone has the opportunity to succeed and benefit from collective achievements. That's the essence of Neo-Corporatism. And while our ideologies may differ, I hope we can find common ground in our shared desire to better the lives of our people."
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Postby Magna Cascadia » Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:49 pm

Morgan raised his eyebrows, "$500 you say. Nothing to scoff at. I have to admit $25 was more than what I was expecting. And I'll admit, for higher-paid positions in Cascadia, a degree is often required. I personally believe it shows a man is capable much more effectively than trusting their talent at face value. Separates the wheat from the chaff before they reach any position of authority. If you're looking for a man with a proven work ethic look for a man who has clawed his way through a university." He paused for a moment, "Though I suppose I'm proof of what you can achieve without formal training. I was enrolled in the University of British Columbia, but the war started before I finished my program. Call me a hypocrite, I suppose." He clarified.

"I'll admit, Chairman Ravenworth, you're not the worst capitalist I've come across. Your system is far more noble than the ones we replaced. But from my perspective - and I mean no offence by this - it does still seem to coddle workers. You reward them lavishly, of course, but in the end, they are still chained to you. If you want to reward workers for their labour properly, I say turn to workplace democracy. Here in Cascadia, if a worker proves a natural leader they may rise to the top with the support of their comrades, while if a manager proves unworthy, they may be removed. Not by the whims of a boss, but by the people themselves. They may not earn $500 an hour, but we make up for it by providing them real control over their workplace. I so far fail to see how Neo-Corporatism provides a meaningful alternative to this."

"As for your wealth - I may be wrong to assume this - but has it all gone back to the community, or into the development of products? Surely you have some of it squirreled away for a rainy day. Trillions, would you say, or less?"
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Postby Nobilis Ashevilla » Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:19 pm

Nexus Ravenworth took a moment to absorb Morgan's words, his sharp eyes reflecting deep contemplation. The room was silent, save for the distant hum of the city outside. Finally, he began, choosing his words with precision.

"President Morgan, your insights are both profound and challenging. I appreciate the depth of thought you've put into your beliefs, and I'll do my best to address each point you've raised."

He started with the topic of education. "At WonderTech Industries, we've always believed that talent and potential are not solely determined by formal education. While degrees can be indicative of dedication and discipline, they don't always capture the full spectrum of an individual's capabilities. Recognizing this, we've established state-of-the-art in-house educational faculties. These institutions provide comprehensive education to our employees, entirely free of charge. Our aim is to ensure that those with a burning passion and drive to be part of the world's largest corporation aren't deterred by the financial burdens of private or public universities. By doing this, we're not just investing in individuals; we're investing in the future of WonderTech and, by extension, the future of the global economy."

He paused, taking a sip of water before continuing, "This approach has multiple benefits. Firstly, it ensures a consistent quality of education tailored to the needs of our industry. Secondly, it fosters loyalty and a sense of belonging among our employees. They know that we're not just interested in what they can offer us now, but we're also committed to their personal and professional growth."

Nexus then addressed the concept of workplace democracy. "I respect the system you've established in Cascadia. Giving workers a voice and a stake in the decision-making process is commendable. However, in an organization as vast and complex as WonderTech Industries, we believe in a balance between democracy and hierarchy. While we ensure that every employee has a voice, we also recognize the need for a structured decision-making process. This is not to suppress voices but to ensure efficiency and clarity in our operations."

He leaned forward, his eyes intense, "Our influence with entities like the United Nations and the World Economic Forum isn't just about power. It's about responsibility. We're at the forefront of shaping global economic policies, and with that comes the duty to ensure fairness, transparency, and opportunity for all. Neo-Corporatism, as an ideology, is our answer to the flaws of traditional capitalism. It's about creating a system where everyone, from the lowest-paid worker to the top executive, benefits from the collective success of the corporation."

Nexus then touched upon the topic of his wealth. "You're right; my wealth is vast. But it's not hoarded away in some vault. It's constantly being reinvested – in research, in infrastructure, in people. Every cent is used to drive innovation, create opportunities, and uplift communities. And while I may not have a singular grand endeavor that requires all of it, the cumulative impact of our numerous projects and initiatives is monumental."

He concluded, "Managing WonderTech is not just about overseeing operations. It's about envisioning a future and then having the courage and determination to bring that vision to life. It's about taking risks, facing challenges head-on, and making tough decisions. And yes, it's also about reaping the rewards of that effort. I've dedicated my life to this endeavor, and I believe in the value of what we're creating. I respect your views, President Morgan, and I hope that through discussions like these, we can find common ground and mutual understanding."
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Postby Magna Cascadia » Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:34 am

"Fair enough," Morgan conceded on the topic of education, "As I said, I never completed my formal education, yet here I am, doing as well as could ever be expected of me... At least I hope." He chuckled, "And you have a point. Education is expensive... or so it was under the state that preceded Cascadia. We too have worked to ensure all Cascadians may pursue higher education if they so wish, regardless of their financial situation. It was nothing short of barbaric to paywall. God, if I still had to pay off my student loans..." A sly smile crept across his face, "One of the many benefits of the People's Revolution is that many records have been... lost. But that's beside the point. I have no issue with providing education free of charge, presuming it truly is comprehensive, and not structured specifically to produce loyal pions of WonderTech. One of my issues with education under capitalist states is that it stifles innovation and creativity. It is not a system that moulds young minds to think and be critical, but one that produces workers. Arts and Literature are ignored in favour of math, and programs to create submissive file clerks and obedient accountants. Believe me, when I told my parents I wanted to pursue a degree in English they almost had a heart attack!" He laughed heartily.

"But I have a question for you. You say that you seek a balance of democracy and hierarchy, and I can respect that. I'm no fanatic anarchist or communist who believes all hierarchies are inherently immoral. Someone needs to be in a position to give orders - though, of course, people ought to be able to decide who fills that role. But my question is, are your employees unionized? I see no better way to give workers a voice than to allow them to speak collectively."

After that, Morgan too leaned in, meeting Ravenworth's gaze, "Neo-Corporatism isn't an answer - it's a bandaid over a gaping wound. The answer to traditional capitalism is socialism, radical reform that doesn't just tie workers to benevolent overlords, but gives workers real control. I respect your efforts, but what you offer is just capitalism bejewelled, with flashy new machinery and comfy factories, but capitalism all the same. The exploitation remains, as does the theft of dignity. The people yearn for complete control of industry, not just more handouts.

"I do respect you, Chairman - far more than I respect most capitalists. You've done a lot to look after your people, and I can't deny your ambition. Nor you're vision for the future which, should it come to past, would be far better than the systems that currently dominate the world. But you're missing the last step. The last push towards a truly just future. Every man deserves his shot, I won't deny that, but there are better ways to achieve such goals. Not just by giving them that high wage or a fancy new office, but by giving them power. Don't take my words to harshly, I only speak in the spirit of the debate. I mean no offence, I only wish to get a grasp of what Neo-Corporatism could do for Cascadia that my government currently does not."
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