by Robert Looking » Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:27 pm
by Floofybit » Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:30 pm
by Caulvedra » Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:33 pm
by Paddy O Fernature » Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:34 pm
Floofybit wrote:Typically extremes are not favourable, but sometimes extremes must be taken, such as taking an extreme stance against the death penalty.
by Risottia » Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:42 pm
Robert Looking wrote:So the question is, What, in your honest opinion, do you think of the extremes politically?
by Risottia » Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:43 pm
Paddy O Fernature wrote:Floofybit wrote:Typically extremes are not favourable, but sometimes extremes must be taken, such as taking an extreme stance against the death penalty.
Respectfully disagree with the death penalty example. Some people simply put don't need to be alive anymore for the actions they have committed. Plain and simple.
by Glorious Freedonia » Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:34 pm
Robert Looking wrote:So the question is, What, in your honest opinion, do you think of the extremes politically?
I personally remember the political stuff by imagining it is a line, on the left of the line, you got your Socialists and your Communists, which both regimes can lead to Authoritarianism, on the right of the line you got your Authoritarian people and your Fascists.
Personally I think no matter how far on which side of the line you go, you will get oppressiveness.
Leave your thoughts down below.
(P.S. this is my very first post in General)
by Kubra » Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:40 pm
by Vikanias » Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:41 pm
by Technoscience Leftwing » Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:18 pm
by Bovad » Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:22 pm
Glorious Freedonia wrote:Robert Looking wrote:So the question is, What, in your honest opinion, do you think of the extremes politically?
I personally remember the political stuff by imagining it is a line, on the left of the line, you got your Socialists and your Communists, which both regimes can lead to Authoritarianism, on the right of the line you got your Authoritarian people and your Fascists.
Personally I think no matter how far on which side of the line you go, you will get oppressiveness.
Leave your thoughts down below.
(P.S. this is my very first post in General)
Much like Archimedes, I do not like extremes. Except, I would like to have an extremely fun time.
I disagree with your definition of extremes though. I put Communism, Socialism, and Facism on the Left Extreme. I put Anarchy on the Right Extreme.
by Supreme Algerstonia » Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:43 pm
by Vallermoore » Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:05 pm
by The Grand Fifth Imperium » Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:34 pm
Robert Looking wrote:So the question is, What, in your honest opinion, do you think of the extremes politically?
I personally remember the political stuff by imagining it is a line, on the left of the line, you got your Socialists and your Communists, which both regimes can lead to Authoritarianism, on the right of the line you got your Authoritarian people and your Fascists.
Personally I think no matter how far on which side of the line you go, you will get oppressiveness.
Leave your thoughts down below.
(P.S. this is my very first post in General)
by Second Dimetrodon Empire » Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:50 pm
Glorious Freedonia wrote:Robert Looking wrote:So the question is, What, in your honest opinion, do you think of the extremes politically?
I personally remember the political stuff by imagining it is a line, on the left of the line, you got your Socialists and your Communists, which both regimes can lead to Authoritarianism, on the right of the line you got your Authoritarian people and your Fascists.
Personally I think no matter how far on which side of the line you go, you will get oppressiveness.
Leave your thoughts down below.
(P.S. this is my very first post in General)
Much like Archimedes, I do not like extremes. Except, I would like to have an extremely fun time.
I disagree with your definition of extremes though. I put Communism, Socialism, and Facism on the Left Extreme. I put Anarchy on the Right Extreme.
George Orwell wrote:Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.
Bradfordville wrote:For every donald trump you see on TV, there's 10,000 others screaming at a mcdonalds employee about something pointless, calling people racial slurs online in a disagreement, forgetting to flush the toilet in a public bathroom and not bothering to wash their hands, threatening local school teachers, playing hot potato with a firecracker or telling their kid that they'll be right back and they're only going to buy some milk. Obama was what America wanted to think it was. Trump is who we really are.
by Second Dimetrodon Empire » Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:53 pm
Bovad wrote:Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Much like Archimedes, I do not like extremes. Except, I would like to have an extremely fun time.
I disagree with your definition of extremes though. I put Communism, Socialism, and Facism on the Left Extreme. I put Anarchy on the Right Extreme.
I guess that would make you far-left.
George Orwell wrote:Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.
Bradfordville wrote:For every donald trump you see on TV, there's 10,000 others screaming at a mcdonalds employee about something pointless, calling people racial slurs online in a disagreement, forgetting to flush the toilet in a public bathroom and not bothering to wash their hands, threatening local school teachers, playing hot potato with a firecracker or telling their kid that they'll be right back and they're only going to buy some milk. Obama was what America wanted to think it was. Trump is who we really are.
by Cannot think of a name » Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:07 pm
Paddy O Fernature wrote:Floofybit wrote:Typically extremes are not favourable, but sometimes extremes must be taken, such as taking an extreme stance against the death penalty.
Respectfully disagree with the death penalty example. Some people simply put don't need to be alive anymore for the actions they have committed. Plain and simple.
by Cannot think of a name » Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:11 pm
The Grand Fifth Imperium wrote:Robert Looking wrote:So the question is, What, in your honest opinion, do you think of the extremes politically?
I personally remember the political stuff by imagining it is a line, on the left of the line, you got your Socialists and your Communists, which both regimes can lead to Authoritarianism, on the right of the line you got your Authoritarian people and your Fascists.
Personally I think no matter how far on which side of the line you go, you will get oppressiveness.
Leave your thoughts down below.
(P.S. this is my very first post in General)
I disagree with the widespread left-right "wing line", as I think its rather inaccurate. I think of the political spectrum as being a circle, and all political ideologies fall somewhere on the circumference of this circle. The higher up the circle you go, the more authoritarian you are, and the lower down the circle you go, the more anti authoritarian. Likewise, the farther right you go, the more conservative, and the more leftward the more progressive.
I developed this idea in my head as a method of explaining what I call the "Soviet distortion", which is the fact that the USSR (a communist and therefore extremely "far left" country) had more in common with the Third Reich (a fascist and therefore extremely "far right" country) than with any truly liberal country. The theory I propose to explain the "Soviet distortion" is what I call the "theory of general political relativity". Basically, the more authoritarian a government becomes, the more it begins to lose sight of its ideology(ies) as gaining and maintaining power becomes its sole pursuit.
Essentially, think of total tyranny and total anarchy as two gravity sources (like say, a star) around which all political ideologies must orbit. Most political ideologies maintain a reasonably safe distance away from each extreme, but some get very close. The closer you get to one extreme, the closer you will be to other ideologies—regardless of fundamental differences—that also orbit close to the metaphorical star. (Does this even make sense?)
by The Grand Fifth Imperium » Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:11 pm
Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Much like Archimedes, I do not like extremes. Except, I would like to have an extremely fun time.
I disagree with your definition of extremes though. I put Communism, Socialism, and Facism on the Left Extreme. I put Anarchy on the Right Extreme.
Fascism is not left-wing in the slightest, but is a series of far-right ideologies.
You should research into fascism a bit. And by "research", I do NOT mean "watch PregerU" or blindly read any other ultra-right wing media.
by Second Dimetrodon Empire » Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:13 pm
The Grand Fifth Imperium wrote:Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Fascism is not left-wing in the slightest, but is a series of far-right ideologies.
You should research into fascism a bit. And by "research", I do NOT mean "watch PregerU" or blindly read any other ultra-right wing media.
I think they are advocating a different political spectrum than the "left-right" one in common use, one where you have total authoritarianism on the left of this line, and total anarchy at the end of this line. Kinda like this one that I just pulled off Google Images.
PS: I just read the text in that picture...![]()
I'm gonna guess whoever wrote that really didnt like socialism to the point of being somewhat delusional. (And that's coming from someone who doesn't like socialism.)
George Orwell wrote:Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.
Bradfordville wrote:For every donald trump you see on TV, there's 10,000 others screaming at a mcdonalds employee about something pointless, calling people racial slurs online in a disagreement, forgetting to flush the toilet in a public bathroom and not bothering to wash their hands, threatening local school teachers, playing hot potato with a firecracker or telling their kid that they'll be right back and they're only going to buy some milk. Obama was what America wanted to think it was. Trump is who we really are.
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