Best police or equivalent in the world?

[British Socialist Republics]

What do you think is the best police force (or communist equivalent)?
What measure do you use?
I use four:
1. Effectiveness.
2. Relative absence of random brutality.
3. Relative absence, and lack of tolerance, of unjust discrimination.
4. Lack of tolerance of sexual misconduct.

I’d argue that the Northumbria Police is the best in the world and has been since 2018.

I don’t know enough about late Lenin era militsiya to comment but Stalin-era militisiya discriminated against Chechens and in the 1980s there was the random brutality of robbery rings formed by police officers.

The Metropolitan Police in London is not the best, in Britain or the world, by any stretch of the imagination.

And the Swedish police hounded Julian Assange for years before prosecutors decided there was not enough evidence.(https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2019/ ... estigation)

I don’t know much about smaller American police forces but I’ve seen bad stuff about all the most famous ones.

[El Lazaro]

IRS-CI

There is nothing worse than tax evasion

[British Socialist Republics]

IRS-CI

There is nothing worse than tax evasion

Irony is hard to detect with you. Presumably you think things are worse but if no one paid their taxes, how would give out free (clean) crack pipes?
I personally think the worst thing ever is probably child sex trafficking.
In any case by “police or equivalent” I didn’t mean like IRS CI or DEA who only enforce a specific area of the criminal law.
I meant generalist institutions like what is normally understood by police or militisiya. Gendarmeries may or may not fit the description depending on country.

[El Lazaro]

IRS-CI

There is nothing worse than tax evasion

Irony is hard to detect with you. Presumably you think things are worse but if no one paid their taxes, how would give out free (clean) crack pipes?
I personally think the worst thing ever is probably child sex trafficking.
In any case by “police or equivalent” I didn’t mean like IRS CI or DEA who only enforce a specific area of the criminal law.
I meant generalist institutions like what is normally understood by police or militisiya. Gendarmeries may or may not fit the description depending on country.

Without taxes, there is lawlessness.

Ok, then I would have to go with Guatemala.

[Ethel mermania]

Florence, South Carolina.

I was going 79 in a 65 zone and the cop gave me a written warning. My favorites.

[British Socialist Republics]

Florence, South Carolina.

I was going 79 in a 65 zone and the cop gave me a written warning. My favorites.

I don’t think leniency to people who endanger the lives of others is a measure of a good police force.
At least you’re grateful for the leniency society gives you though, unlike most of the lumpenproletarian/bourgeoise alliances

Ok, then I would have to go with Guatemala.

Women are not safe there instead innocent women are murdered by the animal-“people” (https://amp.dw.com/en/in-guatemala-wome ... a-57397987).
The police should stop this.

[Ethel mermania]

Florence, South Carolina.

I was going 79 in a 65 zone and the cop gave me a written warning. My favorites.

I don’t think leniency to people who endanger the lives of others is a measure of a good police force.
At least you’re grateful for the leniency society gives you though, unlike most of the lumpenproletarian/bourgeoise alliances

Ok, then I would have to go with Guatemala.

Women are not safe there instead innocent women are murdered by the animal-“people” (https://amp.dw.com/en/in-guatemala-wome ... a-57397987).
The police should stop this.

Not thinking 79 on an empty intersate highway is endangering anybody, but you do you.

[British Socialist Republics]

I don’t think leniency to people who endanger the lives of others is a measure of a good police force.
At least you’re grateful for the leniency society gives you though, unlike most of the lumpenproletarian/bourgeoise alliances

Women are not safe there instead innocent women are murdered by the animal-“people” (https://amp.dw.com/en/in-guatemala-wome ... a-57397987).
The police should stop this.

Not thinking 79 on an empty intersate highway is endangering anybody, but you do you.

Oh ok. Well If it was empty that seems fair.
The warning was written so it’s not like you’d be emboldened speed in a case where it as actually dangerous in the town.
Seems the exact right response.
Do you know anything about their treatment of black people and women?

[X3nder Tech]

best standard for a police:
1. controls it's emotions and biological instincst.
2. have middle police brutality, you can't be giving but you also can't be shoting everyone in the street.
3. has eyes almost in the night like 1984, but this only applies for the estimated "criminal hours" for say something.
4. aren't corrupt.

[Ethel mermania]

Not thinking 79 on an empty intersate highway is endangering anybody, but you do you.

Oh ok. Well If it was empty that seems fair.
The warning was written so it’s not like you’d be emboldened speed in a case where it as actually dangerous in the town.
Seems the exact right response.
Do you know anything about their treatment of black people and women?

I had no interaction with that.

I do deal with NYPD and they are uneven. So I wouldn't say they are the best.

[El Lazaro]

Ok, then I would have to go with Guatemala.

Women are not safe there instead innocent women are murdered by the animal-“people” (https://amp.dw.com/en/in-guatemala-wome ... a-57397987).
The police should stop this.

Oh, I fully agree. The Guatemalan government as a whole is quite terrible at protecting and/or serving the people, to put it mildly.

[Eternal Algerstonia]

the secret service because they protect president trump. they don't protect joe biden because joe biden LOST the 2020 election. the real current us president is president trump, that's who they protect

[British Socialist Republics]

Oh ok. Well If it was empty that seems fair.
The warning was written so it’s not like you’d be emboldened speed in a case where it as actually dangerous in the town.
Seems the exact right response.
Do you know anything about their treatment of black people and women?

I had no interaction with that.

I do deal with NYPD and they are uneven. So I wouldn't say they are the best.

Yeah. One in the Carolinas probably is unlikely to be less racist to black people than the NYPD, unless it’s a very small town that’s either almost entirely black (including the police) or almost entirely white-middle class (with the offenders mostly being white teenagers and/or poor whites).
Most police forces have more issues with racism and sexism than the Northumbria Police and almost all are more classist, in addition the Soviet militsiya in the ‘80s had more problems with random brutality.
That’s why I’d argue that Northumbria Police is the best.

[Corporate Collective Salvation]

best standard for a police:
1. controls it's emotions and biological instincst.
2. have middle police brutality, you can't be giving but you also can't be shoting everyone in the street.
3. has eyes almost in the night like 1984, but this only applies for the estimated "criminal hours" for say something.
4. aren't corrupt.

1. Most Americans trained in professional violence do just that.
2. In my experience, hugs are sometimes welcome, despite not being offered, or just offer a hand, if in doubt.
Many departments have some tight rules about physical contact in non-call and post response conditions.
Unions and insurance companies are always trying to preemptively cover theirs and the departments ass by shoehorning in another standard and practice that further crinkles the hell out of an already dysfunctional training program.
If this concerns you, please have a word with any progressive associates you have in the public service union and insurance combines that define how American institutions operate.
3. I can dig it.
4. Tough one. Everybody is.
Especially the ones demanding that someone not be.
However, if they do happen to represent the standard that is least compromised, then good on them, and by all means follow their example.

[El Lazaro]

I had no interaction with that.

I do deal with NYPD and they are uneven. So I wouldn't say they are the best.

Yeah. One in the Carolinas probably is unlikely to be less racist to black people than the NYPD, unless it’s a very small town that’s either almost entirely black (including the police) or almost entirely white-middle class (with the offenders mostly being white teenagers and/or poor whites).
Most police forces have more issues with racism and sexism than the Northumbria Police and almost all are more classist, in addition the Soviet militsiya in the ‘80s had more problems with random brutality.
That’s why I’d argue that Northumbria Police is the best.

Uhhh

You would happen to have some deleted puppets, would you?

[British Socialist Republics]

Yeah. One in the Carolinas probably is unlikely to be less racist to black people than the NYPD, unless it’s a very small town that’s either almost entirely black (including the police) or almost entirely white-middle class (with the offenders mostly being white teenagers and/or poor whites).
Most police forces have more issues with racism and sexism than the Northumbria Police and almost all are more classist, in addition the Soviet militsiya in the ‘80s had more problems with random brutality.
That’s why I’d argue that Northumbria Police is the best.

Uhhh

You would happen to have some deleted puppets, would you?

Yes but I’m not Nationalist Northumbria, who is a misunderstood individual by the way.

[El Lazaro]

Uhhh

You would happen to have some deleted puppets, would you?

Yes but I’m not Nationalist Northumbria, who is a misunderstood individual by the way.

This is the least convincing thing you could possible say. I can no longer take you seriously.

[A m e n r i a]

Shinsengumi because they had a literal tiger assigned to Sakamoto Ryoma's squad and it's cool af.

[Vonum]

Want Good Policing? Look at the next largest British Police Unit: West Midlands Police.

[Eternal Algerstonia]

Yes but I’m not Nationalist Northumbria, who is a misunderstood individual by the way.

This is the least convincing thing you could possible say. I can no longer take you seriously.

nationalist northumbria is obviously a firm anti-socialist given his efforts to defeat the communist bloc, why would bsr be nn? honestly a socialist rooting for nationalist northumbria is just a tribute to his talents

[British Socialist Republics]

Want Good Policing? Look at the next largest British Police Unit: West Midlands Police.

Didn’t the Chief Constable attend the same pride march as Peter Tatchell, knowing Tatchell would be there?

Shinsengumi because they had a literal tiger assigned to Sakamoto Ryoma's squad and it's cool af.

I thought they were cool when I was younger, though I didn’t know but the tiger, I no longer think they were cool: You realise forced prostitution was legal in Japan at the time?

This is the least convincing thing you could possible say. I can no longer take you seriously.

Why would I be nationalist Northumbria? Northumbria is the real name of the police force for North-East England (except Durham and Teeside) look it up.

nationalist northumbria is obviously a firm anti-socialist given his efforts to defeat the communist bloc, why would bsr be nn?

Exactly.

honestly a socialist rooting for nationalist northumbria is just a tribute to his talents

I agree,
I’ll tell him you said that.

[El Lazaro]

Want Good Policing? Look at the next largest British Police Unit: West Midlands Police.

Didn’t the Chief Constable attend the same pride march as Peter Tatchell, knowing Tatchell would be there?

Shinsengumi because they had a literal tiger assigned to Sakamoto Ryoma's squad and it's cool af.

I thought they were cool when I was younger, though I didn’t know but the tiger, I no longer think they were cool: You realise forced prostitution was legal in Japan at the time?

This is the least convincing thing you could possible say. I can no longer take you seriously.

Why would I be nationalist Northumbria? Northumbria is the real name of the police force for North-East England (except Durham and Teeside) look it up.

nationalist northumbria is obviously a firm anti-socialist given his efforts to defeat the communist bloc, why would bsr be nn?

Exactly.

honestly a socialist rooting for nationalist northumbria is just a tribute to his talents

I agree,
I’ll tell him you said that.

Stop patting yourself on the back LMAO

[Osmauri]

The answer depends on whether whoever you ask even thinks there should be police still alive or not.

Definitely not the American police: inconsistently and unequally funded/trained, militarized, overly belligerent, too quick to start a shootout, racially biased in large regions of the country, prejudiced based on class and appearance, and ineffectiveness in dealing with little things like drug trafficking, domestic terrorism, and human smuggling. Oh, and the past administrations haven't been exactly excellent in helping with these issues.

I can't speak too well for other police forces in the world.

[Corporate Collective Salvation]

The answer depends on whether whoever you ask even thinks there should be police still alive or not.

Definitely not the American police: inconsistently and unequally funded/trained, militarized, overly belligerent, too quick to start a shootout, racially biased in large regions of the country, prejudiced based on class and appearance, and ineffectiveness in dealing with little things like drug trafficking, domestic terrorism, and human smuggling. Oh, and the past administrations haven't been exactly excellent in helping with these issues.

I can't speak too well for other police forces in the world.

It would only destroy your subjectivity anyway.

[Risottia]

Well, the Italian national police forces, that is Polizia di Stato, Carabinieri (a gendarmerie force), and Guardia di Finanza (an army corps dedicated to fighting contraband, tax evasion and finance frauds), although NOT spotless, rank next to naught as per police killings, police brutality is present but fought both by the judiciary and the forces themselves, and they do manage to catch serious criminals like mafia bosses who were hiding with the complicity of whole towns. Plus, the dedicated special operation teams (NOCS for the PS, GIS for the Carabinieri) are considered among the best elite units worldwide.