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Libertarian Right wrote:What-...
Nudist alert?
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by Techocracy101010 » Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:49 am
Heavenly Assault wrote:This is a serious question: why exactly do we have laws and stigmas against nudity?
I think it's strange that such laws and attitudes exist because our most natural state is in the nude. We are born nude and our bodies are just vehicles and representations of ourselves. Now, I understand why you would want someone to wear clothes in places like a grocery store or restaurant, or work, or school. I don't exactly want someone's nutsack next to the salad bar, either, but what about in other contexts? Why did we ever have the public breastfeeding stigma when such a thing is not only perfectly natural, but optimal for the the health of the baby? Why isn't every beach a nude beach?
It feels weird that we tend to see others' bodies as an offense. I mean, some peoples' bodies are aesthetically offensive, but we can always find something offensive about someone. Like in Victorian England and Islam, women are covered up for the sake of their modesty, but is that just a projection that most men are inherently animalistic baboons incapable of regulating their sexual urges? Or is that an issue of other insecurity on the part of the moderators? What if that indirectly fetishizes women because it sensitizes people to sexuality instead of desensitizing them to the human body? Why do the Japanese blur the sexual organs in pornography when you can clearly discern what is happening?
Where do you think the stigma comes from? Is it psychological, biological and/or evolutionary and what are your opinions on it?
by Ryemarch » Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:57 am
Heavenly Assault wrote:I think it's strange that such laws and attitudes exist because our most natural state is in the nude.
Heavenly Assault wrote:Where do you think the stigma comes from? Is it psychological, biological and/or evolutionary and what are your opinions on it?
by Heavenly Assault » Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:02 am
by Neonian Technocracy » Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:05 am
Heavenly Assault wrote:Here's more food for thought:
If society was subjected to interpersonal nudity more often on a regular basis (say in parks and beaches) do you think most people would still be as sensitive? What if we had less censorship and saw nudity in the media more often?
by Stellar Colonies » Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:07 am
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Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
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by Ifreann » Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:13 am
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by Ifreann » Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:41 am
Page wrote:If public nudity was legal I wouldn't be inclined to go grocery shopping naked but I definitely would skip the hassle of a swimsuit at the beach, just strip off my clothes and go swimming and put my clothes back on. Same for like pools and hot tubs at hotels.
Anyway it'd be nice if we could all just get the fuck over it but since that's not happening any time soon, we could at least start with ending the double standard with nipples on the basis of sex.
by Ryemarch » Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:09 am
Heavenly Assault wrote:Here's more food for thought:
If society was subjected to interpersonal nudity more often on a regular basis (say in parks and beaches) do you think most people would still be as sensitive? What if we had less censorship and saw nudity in the media more often?
Ifreann wrote:I would guess that how nudity taboos develop in a society is that as wearing clothes becomes ubiquitous for its practical function, people would only be naked in private situations, and so the two become linked. And from there we can build all kinds of social mores around how much clothing ought to be worn in various situations.
Page wrote:[W]e could at least start with ending the double standard with nipples on the basis of sex.
Ifreann wrote:Mixing naked people and foodstuffs seems like a bad idea.
by Ethel mermania » Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:52 pm
Ryemarch wrote:Heavenly Assault wrote:Here's more food for thought:
If society was subjected to interpersonal nudity more often on a regular basis (say in parks and beaches) do you think most people would still be as sensitive? What if we had less censorship and saw nudity in the media more often?
Yes and yes. However the US is a major media producer and still bears a deep streak of Puritanism, so don't hold your breath.Ifreann wrote:I would guess that how nudity taboos develop in a society is that as wearing clothes becomes ubiquitous for its practical function, people would only be naked in private situations, and so the two become linked. And from there we can build all kinds of social mores around how much clothing ought to be worn in various situations.
This is a solid take, and likely how it all got started.Page wrote:[W]e could at least start with ending the double standard with nipples on the basis of sex.
Hear, hear! Either cover them all or set them all free!Ifreann wrote:Mixing naked people and foodstuffs seems like a bad idea.
Depends on the foodstuff. I do not recommend popsicles.
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Page wrote:If public nudity was legal I wouldn't be inclined to go grocery shopping naked but I definitely would skip the hassle of a swimsuit at the beach, just strip off my clothes and go swimming and put my clothes back on. Same for like pools and hot tubs at hotels.
Anyway it'd be nice if we could all just get the fuck over it but since that's not happening any time soon, we could at least start with ending the double standard with nipples on the basis of sex.
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