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Las Flores Rojas
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Repeal the Public Endangered Species Table

Postby Las Flores Rojas » Wed May 17, 2023 2:49 pm

The World Assembly:

Aware that most WA members have a very admirable interest in environmental protection;

Aware that before the Public Endangered Species Table came around, there were already A LOT of environmental resolutions in place to protect endangered species in a variety of ways, including measures to actually help endangered species and limit the ecological damage that might cause a species to become endangered in the first place;

Noticing that making a public endangered species table does very little - if anything - to actually protect any species or prevent them from being endangered. It's basically just a bookkeeping task that we all sort of hope might contribute to something else happening one day that might actually help an endangered species or two;

Further noticing that the following Fascist provisions were snuck into the benign-sounding Public Endangered Species Table Act:
  1. Clause 2(b) allows government actors to trespass on the private and publicly-owned land of member nations, and violate personal and national privacy interests, anytime they deem it "necessary" for the purpose of finding new data that they claim would significantly aid in updating their table.
  2. That same clause anticipates that said government actors will inflict damage to public and private property, including culturally or environmentally significant sites, and does not prohibit them from doing so.
  3. That same clause anticipates that said government actors will cause damage to public health or safety, and does not does not prohibit them from doing so.
  4. That same clause anticipates that said government actors may even put the host nation's national security at risk, and does not prohibit them from doing so.
  5. Nothing in the law requires the government to provide any sort of compensation, or otherwise work to make things right, when they do cause the damage the law anticipates they will cause.
  6. Clauses 2a and 3 diminish personal property rights by compelling people who may have worked hard on gathering and compiling their data and information to turn it over to the government, without the right to refuse based on their personal ownership rights, in exchange for only whatever pittance the government may consider to be due compensation.
Recognizing the long history of fascist movements using pleasant-sounding propaganda, like a broad and vague allusion to saving endangered critters, to justify infringements on personal rights.

Assuming that most rational nations clearly just missed the terrible implications of these provisions when they cast their initial votes, perhaps because they were bewitched by the warm and fuzzy feelings of imagining some WA beurocrat writing down the name of their favorite endangered critter in a public table.

Resolved that whatever (extremely marginal) value an international resolution calling for a public endangered species table might maybe produce, it is NOT sufficient justification for overbearing and unreasonable infringements of personal and national rights.

The World Assembly hereby exercises sound judgement by REPEALING GAR whatever, the Public Endangered Species Table.

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Postby The Ice States » Wed May 17, 2023 3:35 pm

Let's not assert fascism simply because you disagree with policy.

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Postby Juansonia » Wed May 17, 2023 3:45 pm

Las Flores Rojas wrote:Noticing that making a public endangered species table does very little - if anything - to actually protect any species or prevent them from being endangered. It's basically just a bookkeeping task that we all sort of hope might contribute to something else happening one day that might actually help an endangered species or two;
"If one doesn't know which species are endangered, how is one to protect them?" - Maria-Fernanda Novo, WA Ambassador for the Armed Republic of Juansonia.
Further noticing that the following Fascist provisions were snuck into the benign-sounding Public Endangered Species Table Act:
"During my childhood, I worked as a messenger for the Juansonian legislature. I met many different people representing many different parties, and I even knew the then-senator from the National Fascist Party of Juansonia. One thing that I learned from my childhood work is that using 'fascist' as a word for 'the government did something that I don't like' would get you nowhere."
- Maria-Fernanda Novo, Ambassador
Clause 2(b) allows government actors to trespass on the private and publicly-owned land of member nations, and violate personal and national privacy interests, anytime they deem it "necessary" for the purpose of finding new data that they claim would significantly aid in updating their table.
"The standard isn't that it they 'deem' it necessary. The standard is that it is 'demonstrably to the minimal extent necessary' to gain said data. Both necessity and minimality must be demonstrated, which is a much stricter standard."
- Maria-Fernanda Novo, Ambassador
[That same clause anticipates that said government actors will inflict damage to public and private property, including culturally or environmentally significant sites, and does not prohibit them from doing so.
That same clause anticipates that said government actors will cause damage to public health or safety, and does not prohibit them from doing so.
That same clause anticipates that said government actors may even put the host nation's national security at risk, and does not prohibit them from doing so.
"There is always risk, there is always a chance of damage. This resolution mandates that the researchers take sufficent precations to duly minimise or prevent risk."
- Maria-Fernanda Novo, Ambassador
Nothing in the law requires the government to provide any sort of compensation, or otherwise work to make things right, when they do cause the damage the law anticipates they will cause.
"Finally, a good point!" - Maria-Fernanda Novo, Ambassador
Clauses 2a and 3 diminish personal property rights by compelling people who may have worked hard on gathering and compiling their data and information to turn it over to the government, without the right to refuse based on their personal ownership rights, in exchange for only whatever pittance the government may consider to be due compensation.
"Personal privacy is expressly protected by this resolution. Even if you accept that intellectual property can be held for profit, which many members of this assembly do not, there is no profit motive to withhold data derived from non-experimental observations of wildlife."
- Maria-Fernanda Novo, Ambassador
Recognizing the long history of fascist movements using pleasant-sounding propaganda, like a broad and vague allusion to saving endangered critters, to justify infringements on personal rights.
"It's called appeal to emotion, and it's just as libertarian as it is fascist, and it is just as conservative as it is collectivist." - Maria-Fernanda Novo, Ambassador
Assuming that most rational nations clearly just missed the terrible implications of these provisions when they cast their initial votes, perhaps because they were bewitched by the warm and fuzzy feelings of imagining some WA beurocrat writing down the name of their favorite endangered critter in a public table.
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed May 17, 2023 4:33 pm

Juansonia wrote:
Juansonia wrote:Assuming that most rational nations clearly just missed the terrible implications of these provisions when they cast their initial votes, perhaps because they were bewitched by the warm and fuzzy feelings of imagining some WA beurocrat writing down the name of their favorite endangered critter in a public table.
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(OOC: I don’t think that there’s a metagaming violation here. It is possible, albeit poetic, to say that a nation was bewitched by its favourite animal being protected.)
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Postby Simone Republic » Sat May 20, 2023 2:48 am

I wouldn't bother if I was you. Not saying you can't insta-repeal stuff from Magecastle (I've tried) but I think it won't pass.
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