Fox News could soon be banned from Canadian cable

[Neu California]

The federal agency tasked with regulating Canada’s broadcasting and television services is mulling a ban on Fox News from Canadian cable packages.

The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) is seeking public comments on whether to remove the right-wing network from its list of stations authorized for distribution in Canada.

The CRTC’s consultation process, running until June 2, follows an open letter issued by the LGBTQ advocacy group Egale Canada, which argued the American channel promotes “hatred and violence against 2SLGBTQI communities.”

The April letter, which called on the federal agency to initiate a public hearing on the issue, came after the Toronto-based organization was featured on Fox News’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”

Egale Canada said the program’s now former host, conservative commentator Tucker Carlson, made “false and horrifying claims” about individuals who are Two-Spirit, transgender, non-binary and gender nonconforming.

“During the segment, Carlson made the inflammatory and false claim that trans people are ‘targeting’ Christians. To position trans people in existential opposition to Christianity is an incitement of violence against trans people that is plain to any viewer,” read the letter, signed by Egale Canada executive director Helen Kennedy and addressed to Vicky Eatrides, chairperson and CEO of the CRTC.

“This programming is in clear violation of Canadian broadcasting standards and has no place on Canadian broadcasting networks.”

Neither Fox News nor Tucker Carlson immediately responded to the Star’s request for comment.

To this I say good. Hateful media losing another audience is fine by me, and more body blows to this awful, anti-LGBT network can only help weaken its influence further.

But what say you NSG? Would the CRTC be doing the right thing by banning Fox News for incitement of violence (never mind the lies that they told and were confirmed as lies by the court)? If not, what other measures should the regulatory authority pursue if any, to keep the network from spewing such hate?

[Midvony]

It is authoritarian i thought you people didn't like fascism

[Dimetrodon Empire]

It is authoritarian i thought you people didn't like fascism

Misinformation cannot spread as fast under such a ban. What a pitty.

[Port Caverton]

Banning media is bad actually.

[Nobilis Ashevilla]

It is authoritarian i thought you people didn't like fascism

Misinformation cannot spread as fast under such a ban. What a pitty.

What and who determines what is "misinformation", and why do you think people cannot decide for themselves individually what they can and cannot consume? That is tyranny. You cannot be for democracy, liberty, and freedom when restricting the content you may politically disagree with. In fact, you will only encourage people to dive deeper into seeing why it was censored by the wannabe tyrants and backfire on them as it always has.

[Saiwana]

It's rediculous that Canada acts as if LGBT people are the majority and should represent the will of the people, but it isn't surprising that they'd pull such a stunt. What caused them to otherwise tolerate Fox News Channel for so long? Did they have a Canadian division that focused on chipping away at Canada's liberal politics in favor of their conservatives like is the case in the US?

If Tucker Carlson had to pick a target, I'm broadly in favor of him trying to undermine the legitimacy and existence of the CRTC meddling in what his audience can watch. If TV is dead, could they not get it still via the internet or via a VPN if that had to be the case?

[Dimetrodon Empire]

Misinformation cannot spread as fast under such a ban. What a pitty.

What and who determines what is "misinformation", and why do you think people cannot decide for themselves individually what they can and cannot consume? That is tyranny. You cannot be for democracy, liberty, and freedom when restricting the content you may politically disagree with. In fact, you will only encourage people to dive deeper into seeing why it was censored by the wannabe tyrants and backfire on them as it always has.

This is false, it actually works in keeping nonsense out of the public eye: https://www.niemanlab.org/2021/06/depla ... ets-shows/

And considering the fact that QAnon is mainstream, many of the individuals you speak of are fucking stupid.

Question: What are your political beliefs? Do you just so happen to agree/support the nonsense that Fox News spits out?

[Ifreann]

It's rediculous that Canada acts as if LGBT people are the majority and should represent the will of the people, but it isn't surprising that they'd pull such a stunt. What caused them to otherwise tolerate Fox News Channel for so long? Did they have a Canadian division that focused on chipping away at Canada's liberal politics in favor of their conservatives like is the case in the US?

They're not acting like queer people are the majority, they're acting like they care about people even if they're in the minority. Pretty simple concept.

If Tucker Carlson had to pick a target, I'm broadly in favor of him trying to undermine the legitimacy and existence of the any regulatory body meddling in what his audience can watch. If TV is dead, could they not get it still via the internet or via a VPN if that had to be the case?

He doesn't work for Fox any more.

[Vassenor]

Misinformation cannot spread as fast under such a ban. What a pitty.

What and who determines what is "misinformation", and why do you think people cannot decide for themselves individually what they can and cannot consume? That is tyranny. You cannot be for democracy, liberty, and freedom when restricting the content you may politically disagree with. In fact, you will only encourage people to dive deeper into seeing why it was censored by the wannabe tyrants and backfire on them as it always has.

I take it you think we should negotiate and compromise with the fascists then?

[Terminus Station]

It is authoritarian i thought you people didn't like fascism

Misinformation cannot spread as fast under such a ban. What a pitty.

Sadly many of the misinformed will lose their favourate echo chamber, but it is a sacrifice Im willing to make.

[Nobilis Ashevilla]

What and who determines what is "misinformation", and why do you think people cannot decide for themselves individually what they can and cannot consume? That is tyranny. You cannot be for democracy, liberty, and freedom when restricting the content you may politically disagree with. In fact, you will only encourage people to dive deeper into seeing why it was censored by the wannabe tyrants and backfire on them as it always has.

This is false, it actually works in keeping nonsense out of the public eye: https://www.niemanlab.org/2021/06/depla ... ets-shows/

And considering the fact that QAnon is mainstream, many of the individuals you speak of are fucking stupid.

Question: What are your political beliefs? Do you just so happen to agree/support the nonsense that Fox News spits out?

Good to know you are honest about wanting to control what people can see and think for themselves. Deplatforming your opponents is an act of cowardice. It proves your ideology is so fragile that you must muzzle them to get the audience only to see your way of thinking and not the alternative.

When regarding Jan 6th. Trump stated his Twitter, which you will likely intentionally deny and not bother to get out of your tyrannical mindset. Asked his supporters to remain peaceful and go home. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 77792?s=20

I consider myself a left-wing nationalist but unlike many on the Modern Left. I still have this crazy belief in Free Speech and believe it is not up to you, me, the government/organisations, or any private corporation to dictate where the conversation of the day should and shouldn't be directed.

[Terminus Station]

This is false, it actually works in keeping nonsense out of the public eye: https://www.niemanlab.org/2021/06/depla ... ets-shows/

And considering the fact that QAnon is mainstream, many of the individuals you speak of are fucking stupid.

Question: What are your political beliefs? Do you just so happen to agree/support the nonsense that Fox News spits out?

Good to know you are honest about wanting to control what people can see and think for themselves. Deplatforming your opponents is an act of cowardice. It proves your ideology is so fragile that you must muzzle them to get the audience only to see your way of thinking and not the alternative.

When regarding Jan 6th. Trump stated his Twitter, which you will likely intentionally deny and not bother to get out of your tyrannical mindset. Asked his supporters to remain peaceful and go home. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 77792?s=20

I consider myself a left-wing nationalist but unlike many on the Modern Left. I still have this crazy belief in Free Speech and believe it is not up to you, me, the government/organisations, or any private corporation to dictate where the conversation of the day should and shouldn't be directed.

So this is the difference between Canadian and American Broadcasting standards, you cannot advocate hateful content and make up false claims. Fox News has been sued before for breaking these codes of conduct in America and their defence was "they aren't news, they're entertainment." That excuse doesn't fly in Canada because when you say things like how the trans community is targeting Christians with violence, not only is it objectively wrong, it also incites violence and breaks laws that protect the LGBT+ community against hate speech.

If you dont like it you dont have to stay in Canada.

[Nobilis Ashevilla]

What and who determines what is "misinformation", and why do you think people cannot decide for themselves individually what they can and cannot consume? That is tyranny. You cannot be for democracy, liberty, and freedom when restricting the content you may politically disagree with. In fact, you will only encourage people to dive deeper into seeing why it was censored by the wannabe tyrants and backfire on them as it always has.

I take it you think we should negotiate and compromise with the fascists then?

Fascist is just a buzzword nowadays to discredit your political opponent rather than actually with genuine intention to debate a conservative's talking point on the day's issue. It shows weakness, when you call them names and makes you look the fool in front of the audience.

If there are any real "fascists" you don't silence them. Deprive of them of the ability to work and function in society. Despite them advocating that on people they disagree with. You must be better than them, and put on the stage, to show all, why you are right, and why they are wrong.

You only act when they are advocating for violence, which isn't guaranteed by the First Amendment. Otherwise, I won't compromise on the thought of "hate speech laws", if you don't like something you personally find offensive on your social media feed. Block it, not go out of your way, to get that troll/shitposter/whatever arrested and jailed for x amount of years.

Good to know you are honest about wanting to control what people can see and think for themselves. Deplatforming your opponents is an act of cowardice. It proves your ideology is so fragile that you must muzzle them to get the audience only to see your way of thinking and not the alternative.

When regarding Jan 6th. Trump stated his Twitter, which you will likely intentionally deny and not bother to get out of your tyrannical mindset. Asked his supporters to remain peaceful and go home. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 77792?s=20

I consider myself a left-wing nationalist but unlike many on the Modern Left. I still have this crazy belief in Free Speech and believe it is not up to you, me, the government/organisations, or any private corporation to dictate where the conversation of the day should and shouldn't be directed.

So this is the difference between Canadian and American Broadcasting standards, you cannot advocate hateful content and make up false claims. Fox News has been sued before for breaking these codes of conduct in America and their defence was "they aren't news, they're entertainment." That excuse doesn't fly in Canada because when you say things like how the trans community is targeting Christians with violence, not only is it objectively wrong, it also incites violence and breaks laws that protect the LGBT+ community against hate speech.

If you dont like it you dont have to stay in Canada.

I'm happy I don't live in Canada. Americans still have this belief in it's up to the individual to decide what is right and wrong for them to think or align themselves with. Enjoy descending into a dystopia.

[Terminus Station]

I take it you think we should negotiate and compromise with the fascists then?

Fascist is just a buzzword nowadays to discredit your political opponent rather than actually with genuine intention to debate a conservative's talking point on the day's issue. It shows weakness, when you call them names and makes you look the fool in front of the audience.

If there are any real "fascists" you don't silence them. Deprive of them of the ability to work and function in society. Despite them advocating that on people they disagree with. You must be better than them, and put on the stage, to show all, why you are right, and why they are wrong.

You only act when they are advocating for violence, which isn't guaranteed by the First Amendment. Otherwise, I won't compromise on the thought of "hate speech laws", if you don't like something you personally find offensive on your social media feed. Block it, not go out of your way, to get that troll/shitposter/whatever arrested and jailed for x amount of years.

Its okay to protect LGBT+ communities from bigots.

[Nobilis Ashevilla]

Fascist is just a buzzword nowadays to discredit your political opponent rather than actually with genuine intention to debate a conservative's talking point on the day's issue. It shows weakness, when you call them names and makes you look the fool in front of the audience.

If there are any real "fascists" you don't silence them. Deprive of them of the ability to work and function in society. Despite them advocating that on people they disagree with. You must be better than them, and put on the stage, to show all, why you are right, and why they are wrong.

You only act when they are advocating for violence, which isn't guaranteed by the First Amendment. Otherwise, I won't compromise on the thought of "hate speech laws", if you don't like something you personally find offensive on your social media feed. Block it, not go out of your way, to get that troll/shitposter/whatever arrested and jailed for x amount of years.

Its okay to protect LGBT+ communities from bigots.

I'm bisexual. You and us aren't special. If an LGBT person doesn't like what they see on their feed, they can block it. It's not hard. You should try it sometime. Instead of getting the leather boots on. The individual should only act if the offending party is going out of their way to physically/financially harm you, as again, that isn't protected by the First Amendment of the United States.

[Terminus Station]

Its okay to protect LGBT+ communities from bigots.

I'm bisexual. You and us aren't special. If an LGBT person doesn't like what they see on their feed, they can block it. It's not hard. You should try it sometime. Instead of getting the leather boots on. The individual should only act if the offending party is going out of their way to physically/financially harm you, as again, that isn't protected by the First Amendment of the United States.

lol having regulation standards is how we fight against bigotry, go take your persecution complex somewhere else. We've seen what happens in America when you don't stand up to hate speech.

[Vassenor]

I take it you think we should negotiate and compromise with the fascists then?

Fascist is just a buzzword nowadays to discredit your political opponent rather than actually with genuine intention to debate a conservative's talking point on the day's issue. It shows weakness, when you call them names and makes you look the fool in front of the audience.

If there are any real "fascists" you don't silence them. Deprive of them of the ability to work and function in society. Despite them advocating that on people they disagree with. You must be better than them, and put on the stage, to show all, why you are right, and why they are wrong.

You only act when they are advocating for violence, which isn't guaranteed by the First Amendment. Otherwise, I won't compromise on the thought of "hate speech laws", if you don't like something you personally find offensive on your social media feed. Block it, not go out of your way, to get that troll/shitposter/whatever arrested and jailed for x amount of years.

And when has that strategy actually worked at any point in history?

[Nobilis Ashevilla]

I'm bisexual. You and us aren't special. If an LGBT person doesn't like what they see on their feed, they can block it. It's not hard. You should try it sometime. Instead of getting the leather boots on. The individual should only act if the offending party is going out of their way to physically/financially harm you, as again, that isn't protected by the First Amendment of the United States.

lol having regulation standards is how we fight against bigotry, go take your persecution complex somewhere else. We've seen what happens in America when you don't stand up to hate speech.

What is hateful about words? They don't kill anyone. When has a line been said, and instantaneously people start dropping dead? It only becomes violent when someone physically goes out of their way to cause harm to another person. Otherwise, you have no right to censor them when they are just being edgelords and will have been mocked most of the time by the majority.

Yet, of course, you will try to refute this and insist that you must turn your country into a totalitarian hellscape just because somebody said some mean words or made a mean joke.

So please continue throwing this label at me with having a "persecution complex" I find it hilarious as you have no legs to stand on when it comes to arguing against the importance of upholding free speech, even for those you and I disagree with.

[Terminus Station]

lol having regulation standards is how we fight against bigotry, go take your persecution complex somewhere else. We've seen what happens in America when you don't stand up to hate speech.

What is hateful about words? They don't kill anyone. When has a line been said, and instantaneously people start dropping dead? It only becomes violent when someone physically goes out of their way to cause harm to another person. Otherwise, you have no right to censor them when they are just being edgelords and will have been mocked most of the time by the majority.

Yet, of course, you will try to refute this and insist that you must turn your country into a totalitarian hellscape just because somebody said some mean words or made a mean joke.

So please continue throwing this label at me with having a "persecution complex" I find it hilarious as you have no legs to stand on when it comes to arguing against the importance of upholding free speech, even for those you and I disagree with.

boo hoo, my fellow Canadians voted for it and will protest if it has unintended overreach. Because we're smart enough to know the difference between hate speech like Nazis telling people to kill the Jews and free speech like someone calling our PM a turd sandwich. Im sorry people in your country cant tell the difference.

[Midvony]

What and who determines what is "misinformation", and why do you think people cannot decide for themselves individually what they can and cannot consume? That is tyranny. You cannot be for democracy, liberty, and freedom when restricting the content you may politically disagree with. In fact, you will only encourage people to dive deeper into seeing why it was censored by the wannabe tyrants and backfire on them as it always has.

I take it you think we should negotiate and compromise with the fascists then?

Banning something you disagree with is fascism... You are the fascists.

[Terminus Station]

I take it you think we should negotiate and compromise with the fascists then?

Banning something you disagree with is fascism... You are the fascists.

its almost like tolerance is a social contract that if you break you will not be tolerated.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Pretty much the absolutely basic bottom line punishment for Fox's crime of utterly destroying the American society.

[Port Caverton]

What is hateful about words? They don't kill anyone. When has a line been said, and instantaneously people start dropping dead? It only becomes violent when someone physically goes out of their way to cause harm to another person. Otherwise, you have no right to censor them when they are just being edgelords and will have been mocked most of the time by the majority.

Yet, of course, you will try to refute this and insist that you must turn your country into a totalitarian hellscape just because somebody said some mean words or made a mean joke.

So please continue throwing this label at me with having a "persecution complex" I find it hilarious as you have no legs to stand on when it comes to arguing against the importance of upholding free speech, even for those you and I disagree with.

boo hoo, my fellow Canadians voted for it and will protest if it has unintended overreach. Because we're smart enough to know the difference between hate speech like Nazis telling people to kill the Jews and free speech like someone calling our PM a turd sandwich. Im sorry people in your country cant tell the difference.

I'm Canadian and personally I think that this is bad

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

boo hoo, my fellow Canadians voted for it and will protest if it has unintended overreach. Because we're smart enough to know the difference between hate speech like Nazis telling people to kill the Jews and free speech like someone calling our PM a turd sandwich. Im sorry people in your country cant tell the difference. :rofl:

I'm Canadian and personally I think that this is bad

People should be free to destroy utterly their society, aided by incredibly stupendous amounts of funds, none of us would ever actually honestly earn?

[Terminus Station]

boo hoo, my fellow Canadians voted for it and will protest if it has unintended overreach. Because we're smart enough to know the difference between hate speech like Nazis telling people to kill the Jews and free speech like someone calling our PM a turd sandwich. Im sorry people in your country cant tell the difference.

I'm Canadian and personally I think that this is bad

k, make your case to parliament and get signatories. We have a system for this sort of thing. If enough people think you're right, democracy will choose your side.