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Should Pornography be banned in the US?

Postby Cook-Out » Sun May 07, 2023 10:57 pm

I know that all the free speech advocates are gonna jump on me for this one but here goes.
Porn has no benefits besides temporary pleasure. Meanwhile, porn has many downsides such as the objectification of women (and men), sex addiction, and depression, as well as unrealistic body expectations and bad relationships. Porn also is linked to human trafficking and child sex abuse. Therefore, I believe that all porn access in the US should be banned, both digital and physical, judging based on the Miller Test. Feel free to discuss your opinion in the replies on how this would be implemented or if it shouldn't be implemented and why.

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Postby Saiwana » Sun May 07, 2023 11:04 pm

All such efforts are seemingly doomed to fail harder than Prohibition. Porn is illegal in China for example, but people who're determined enough just go overseas to get their fix or draw/produce porn for their black market. Besides, the porn industry in the US broadly speaking, pays tons of money in taxes and other regulatory compliance schemes and not being able to work with the likes of Visa or MasterCard at their regular interest rates (because its a higher risk industry), is just the cost of doing business for them.
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Sun May 07, 2023 11:07 pm

A stupid idea which wouldn’t work. Hell, even back in the 1920’s when the information technology was nowhere near the level (and the amount of ones ability to avoid the law) at which it is today. There is simply no feasible way for someone to outright ban the possession of pornography- it wouldn’t work. While I agree with you that it has a lot of negative consequences, as with alcohol prohibition is not an option because it wouldn’t work. Perhaps if you’d look into alternatives- fund community alternatives for people with porn addiction, fund rehab programs and do Medicare for all and stuff it would solve the problem.
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Postby Seven Hill » Sun May 07, 2023 11:20 pm

I see your reasoning, but I'm still on the side of limiting it's reach, so it's less likely that teenagers will get into it soon than banning it.

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Postby Orostan » Sun May 07, 2023 11:22 pm

Yes, ban all porn. Lock up anyone who produces it and liberate the people who are raped for money for it.
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Postby Page » Sun May 07, 2023 11:34 pm

Cook-Out wrote: no benefits besides temporary pleasure[/u]


"No benefits besides temporary pleasure" - what a phrase. All pleasures are temporary pleasures, all lives are temporary lives. What the hell else is there? If I stop enjoying porn, will I have time to ascend to apotheosis and become an eternal being that outlives the heat death of the universe?
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Postby Southland » Sun May 07, 2023 11:50 pm

While I think that pornography addiction is a far more serious issue than most people are willing to acknowledge, and more needs to be done to combat sex trafficking,I'm against banning it wholesale. Especially since it's been shown time and time again that such measure will always fail.
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon May 08, 2023 12:17 am

A request for all who support such a ban: Define "pornography."
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Postby Nue Cascadia » Mon May 08, 2023 12:18 am

As a Christian, I can't support the banning of it.

Maybe it's just the Libertarian flowing throw me (lol) but I can't support it.
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Postby Jatily » Mon May 08, 2023 12:26 am

Cook-Out wrote:I know that all the free speech advocates are gonna jump on me for this one but here goes.
Porn has no benefits besides temporary pleasure. Meanwhile, porn has many downsides such as the objectification of women (and men), sex addiction, and depression, as well as unrealistic body expectations and bad relationships. Porn also is linked to human trafficking and child sex abuse. Therefore, I believe that all porn access in the US should be banned, both digital and physical, judging based on the Miller Test. Feel free to discuss your opinion in the replies on how this would be implemented or if it shouldn't be implemented and why.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon May 08, 2023 12:28 am

Pornography has been around since we figured out who to draw and carve stone.

Outlawing it will do nothing to stop it.
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Postby Page » Mon May 08, 2023 12:29 am

Orostan wrote:Yes, ban all porn. Lock up anyone who produces it and liberate the people who are raped for money for it.


Ah yes, "liberation" like when girls from third world countries who are brought to America as victims of sex trafficking end up in an ICE prison, maybe get raped by the guards, and end up back where they came from so the whole cycle can start again. Even the Scandinavian countries with their often praised Nordic models of prostitution end up victimizing the victims in this manner.

There are plenty of scumbags in the porn industry who exploit vulnerable sex workers, but the state doesn't do jack shit to actually help those sex workers. The state doesn't give a fuck about human rights, only "law and order."
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 08, 2023 12:49 am

Porn sucks and there's a growing body of evidence that it very much is a social ill but outlawing it would do nothing to get rid of it and would just make exploitation and trafficking even worse.
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Mon May 08, 2023 1:07 am

It would make more sense to make sure children were given access to comprehensive sex education before access to internet porn.
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Postby Memestw » Mon May 08, 2023 1:10 am

seems like what isis and taliban will do

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Postby New Anarchisticstan » Mon May 08, 2023 1:12 am

Such 1984ism, porn gets us oligarchs rich!!

Apart the jokes, a ban would be quite the shittiest solution. Just offer therapy for those with porn addiction and tada.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon May 08, 2023 2:22 am

No, don't ban it.

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Postby Neu California » Mon May 08, 2023 2:24 am

Considering that porn consumption might be able to deter sexual violence, and at the very least, there's scant evidence that porn increases sexual violence, I'm gonna go with no. Should the porn industry be better regulated to curb abuses? Hell, yes (look up the GirlsDoPorn legal battle for an example of such things happening and such abuses being curbed), but that doesn't mean all porn should be banned.
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Postby Mr Matzerati » Mon May 08, 2023 2:32 am

No, for 2 reasons:
1. its someones own decision to watch it. Why would you care about someones interrests
2. If you criminalise it, it will go off the legal grid along with all rules and guidelines it has now. No making porn under 18? gone. No porn without consent? Gone. Contracts about being paid? Gone
What we need is more regulation to prevent abuse. Banning it will make it far worse

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Postby Stratonesia » Mon May 08, 2023 2:51 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Pornography has been around since we figured out who to draw and carve stone.

Outlawing it will do nothing to stop it.

The NSA uses all kinds of crazy (yet practical) encryption algorithms to protect the US Government's top secret files.
Some of which were likely created initially for making porn consumption much safer.
So a good bit of the developments in modern cryptography can be traced back to the need to watch naked babes.
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Postby Kerwa » Mon May 08, 2023 4:51 am

No. I mean there’s good evidence that there are all sort of societal evils attached to it, but any attempt to ban it would just end up causing more problems than it already creates. A bit like drug prohibition.

The government has too much say in people’s lives to begin with in any case.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon May 08, 2023 5:17 am

No there is no reason to ban it.

The main reasons are no one is making you watch it and as long as its consensual and no minors are involved why do you care?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 08, 2023 5:19 am

San Lumen wrote:No there is no reason to ban it.

The main reasons are no one is making you watch it and as long as its consensual and no minors are involved why do you care?


Because an individuals actions have impact on society at large and "why do you care" attitudes have really done nothing except help destroy said society. Don't get me wrong banning porn would do more harm than good at this point, but I think it's about time people started to accept that extreme individualism has objectively failed.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 5:33 am

Anything to put a stop to it, do it.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon May 08, 2023 5:36 am

Floofybit wrote:Anything to put a stop to it, do it.


Why? How is it harming you?

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