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Tate Brothers are released from prison, your opinion?

Postby The Republic of Covelandia » Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:53 am

Recently the Tate brothers Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate have been released from prison and put on house arrest on March 29th, 2023. The former kick boxer posted a message saying. "I win. no tears". He has also said in a video saying he has been focusing on doing push-ups and been reading the Qur'an. Along with this he has been fasting Ramadan. In fact, he still does have his case resuming so only time will tell where this will go.

Now I would love to hear your opinion on this so please reply.
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Postby Page » Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:55 am

They're human trafficker and rapist scum. In this essay, I will... Wait. No essay. The first sentence pretty much suffices.
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Postby Greater Rostoria » Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:56 am

I dont have much of a opinion on this issue, I really hope that he converted to Islam because of his heart and not to gain sympathy from us Muslims. But I do believe that this issue should be solved using the legal system.

We can only wait and see how this goes, only Allah knows.
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Postby Rakhalia » Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:01 am

I don't like rooting for the legal systems of capitalist societies, but just this once-- dude, lock him away for life.
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Postby Page » Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:02 am

Greater Rostoria wrote:I dont have much of a opinion on this issue, I really hope that he converted to Islam because of his heart and not to gain sympathy from us Muslims. But I do believe that this issue should be solved using the legal system.

We can only wait and see how this goes, only Allah knows.


Is it really so simple for you as a Muslim to give the benefit of the doubt to a rapist human trafficker just because he said "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger"?

I'm not a Muslim or any kind of believer but if I was I think I'd at least want to see a little bit of evidence, like maybe him making public his finances to show that he's paid Zakat? And even that wouldn't be real confirmation but I bet the dude is so greedy he won't even donate that 2.5% of his income.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:08 am

Reports from journalists on the scene are that Andrew Tate responded to questions by pissing his pants, falling to the ground, curling up into a ball, and crying for his mother. Tristan Tate was revealed to be several rats in a human suit.

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Postby Imperiul romanum » Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:11 am

:eyebrow: I don't know what i will seed,anyway in Romania the news has be talking about them for some time
The Republic of Covelandia wrote:Recently the Tate brothers Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate have been released from prison and put on house arrest on March 29th, 2023. The former kick boxer posted a message saying. "I win. no tears". He has also said in a video saying he has been focusing on doing push-ups and been reading the Qur'an. Along with this he has been fasting Ramadan. In fact, he still does have his case resuming so only time will tell where this will go.

Now I would love to hear your opinion on this so please reply.

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Postby Rusozak » Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:31 am

Since it's the international day of not believing anything anyone says, I decided to look it up myself. Here's a source.

Anyways, hope these rapist scumbags don't get off easy. I presume this is just until a trial can convict them.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:36 am

Rusozak wrote:Since it's the international day of not believing anything anyone says, I decided to look it up myself. Here's a source.

Anyways, hope these rapist scumbags don't get off easy. I presume this is just until a trial can convict them.


They've been moved from prison to house arrest, yes.
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Postby Incelastan » Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:48 am

This is a matter for the Romanian courts. I prefer to leave it in their apparently capable hands. I am pleasantly surprised at their independence so far. I hadn't expected that so soon from a country once under the iron grip of Nicolae Ceausescu.
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:48 pm

The Republic of Covelandia wrote:The former kick boxer posted a message saying. "I win. no tears".

The convicted human trafficker who is being moved from prison to house arrest is posting messages saying “I win”?

Greater Rostoria wrote:I really hope that he converted to Islam because of his heart and not to gain sympathy from us Muslims.

Oh it was neither of those things, it was actually to get a weird form of clout among a specific sector of terminally online Western misogynists & Islamophobes lol
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Postby Saiwana » Sat Apr 01, 2023 10:29 pm

He isn't quite out of the woods from what I've read, he's under house arrest in Romania but has been released from their detention centers. Still, not a word from the prosecution, why not release some info already if their case really is strong enough to pursue?
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Postby Drongonia » Sat Apr 01, 2023 10:37 pm

Keeping someone who isn't actually proven guilty or even charged of anything in custody for that long is a miscarriage of justice, but one which will be let slide of course.

From the BBC article posted earlier
No charges have been brought against the brothers or the two Romanian associates who were arrested alongside them.

They were in prison for four months on... not even bogus charges - literally no charges at all. It's understandable to have time to build a case and collate evidence, but how much time could you as a prosecutor possibly need?

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Postby Haganham » Sat Apr 01, 2023 10:51 pm

Saiwana wrote:He isn't quite out of the woods from what I've read, he's under house arrest in Romania but has been released from their detention centers. Still, not a word from the prosecution, why not release some info already if their case really is strong enough to pursue?

It's not. Once the alleged victims came forward and said it didn't happen the whole thing has fallen apart. The only people who still "believe" the prosecution at this point are the ones who don't care if it's true or not.
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Postby United Calanworie » Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:08 pm

Haganham wrote:
Saiwana wrote:He isn't quite out of the woods from what I've read, he's under house arrest in Romania but has been released from their detention centers. Still, not a word from the prosecution, why not release some info already if their case really is strong enough to pursue?

It's not. Once the alleged victims came forward and said it didn't happen the whole thing has fallen apart. The only people who still "believe" the prosecution at this point are the ones who don't care if it's true or not.

Can you source this? A quick google search only got me tabloid articles.
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Postby Haganham » Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:23 pm

United Calanworie wrote:
Haganham wrote:It's not. Once the alleged victims came forward and said it didn't happen the whole thing has fallen apart. The only people who still "believe" the prosecution at this point are the ones who don't care if it's true or not.

Can you source this? A quick google search only got me tabloid articles.

You're not, by definition, going to find more then tabloid articles covering this. It's celebrity gossip. but the court has ruled on it. https://www.insider.com/women-associate ... sed-2023-1 https://www.roundposter.com/two-women-w ... dges-rule/
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Postby Drongonia » Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:03 am

Haganham wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:Can you source this? A quick google search only got me tabloid articles.

You're not, by definition, going to find more then tabloid articles covering this. It's celebrity gossip. but the court has ruled on it. https://www.insider.com/women-associate ... sed-2023-1 https://www.roundposter.com/two-women-w ... dges-rule/

I am not a fan of courts or the legal system being able to tell people their intent, or what they are thinking. In this case the Romanian prosecutors told these women they had been brainwashed, regardless of what they actually said.

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Postby A m e n r i a » Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:07 am

Page wrote:
Greater Rostoria wrote:I dont have much of a opinion on this issue, I really hope that he converted to Islam because of his heart and not to gain sympathy from us Muslims. But I do believe that this issue should be solved using the legal system.

We can only wait and see how this goes, only Allah knows.


Is it really so simple for you as a Muslim to give the benefit of the doubt to a rapist human trafficker just because he said "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger"?

I'm not a Muslim or any kind of believer but if I was I think I'd at least want to see a little bit of evidence, like maybe him making public his finances to show that he's paid Zakat? And even that wouldn't be real confirmation but I bet the dude is so greedy he won't even donate that 2.5% of his income.


Zakat is payable once a year (except special kinds of zakat if he has plantations, gold and such), if you want that you'd have to wait until Idul Fitri.

EDIT: I just realized him being an influencer means he should pay professional zakat on top of zakat fitrah.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:09 am

Haganham wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:Can you source this? A quick google search only got me tabloid articles.

You're not, by definition, going to find more then tabloid articles covering this. It's celebrity gossip. but the court has ruled on it. https://www.insider.com/women-associate ... sed-2023-1 https://www.roundposter.com/two-women-w ... dges-rule/


So what about the other four victims? Or do they not count?
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Postby Greater Los Angeles » Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:10 am

An Islamist pornographer and his brother have been released from prison?

That doesn't sound good.

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Postby Fan-T Pashtunistan » Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:13 am

The convicted human trafficker who is being moved from prison to house arrest is posting messages saying “I win”?

Convicted?
An Islamist pornographer and his brother have been released from prison?

That doesn't sound good.

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Postby Imperiul romanum » Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:16 am

Incelastan wrote:This is a matter for the Romanian courts. I prefer to leave it in their apparently capable hands. I am pleasantly surprised at their independence so far. I hadn't expected that so soon from a country once under the iron grip of Nicolae Ceausescu.

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