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Should I become a 2 party state?

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How many Political Parties should be in my Parliament?

2-3
12
16%
4-5
19
25%
5-7
8
11%
7-9
3
4%
9-11
4
5%
11-13
0
No votes
13-15
2
3%
15+
27
36%
 
Total votes : 75

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Should I become a 2 party state?

Postby Kostrotyevsk » Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:32 pm

So currently I have like 20 parties in my parliament. I hope to see if I should lower this to like 2 like in America or something. I wanna see recommendations and stuff, also currently I have 100 people in my upper house (The Senate) and 650 in the lower house (House of Representatives). I wonder if I should raise or lower these numbers. Anyways, poll for # of political parties are below. I would like to hear what names you would provide for the party names.
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Postby Cuba 2022 RP » Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:36 pm

Dont switch to 2 party state, that’s one of the biggest flaws of america, if you have more than 2, youre probably doing better than them
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Postby Kostrotyevsk » Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:38 pm

Cuba 2022 RP wrote:Dont switch to 2 party state, that’s one of the biggest flaws of america, if you have more than 2, youre probably doing better than them

I wanna hear your ideas on this and the number of seats in my government and stuff. And how many parties.
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Postby Guild Commonwealth » Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:59 pm

I voted 4 to 5 but after looking over the size of your parliament again, I think having at least 6 or 7 would be good.

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Postby Kostrotyevsk » Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:20 pm

Guild Commonwealth wrote:I voted 4 to 5 but after looking over the size of your parliament again, I think having at least 6 or 7 would be good.

What i mean is 2 parties will be the largest then 3-4 other smaller ones. Also kk
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Postby Veraguas » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:51 pm

4-5 sounds like a good practical number. More than 10 is just excessive.
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Postby Republica Federal de Catalunya » Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:28 am

Having more than 2 gives more flexibility. In my country there at least 20 political parties, but, in the last 75 years only 5 have been leading a government coalition or ruling in solitary.

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Postby New Stonen » Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:33 am

A group of 4-6 parties can result in a very diverse and unique political system in your nation. A 2-3 system can be boring, where it's simply an "apples or oranges" scenario. New Stonen has 3 parties that are regularly elected, along with 4 parties that, very rarely, can gain control of large parts of the nation. This makes politics more interesting and refreshing every once in a while.
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Postby Republica Federal de Catalunya » Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:34 am

Kostrotyevsk wrote:
Guild Commonwealth wrote:I voted 4 to 5 but after looking over the size of your parliament again, I think having at least 6 or 7 would be good.

What i mean is 2 parties will be the largest then 3-4 other smaller ones. Also kk


Most multiparty systems are similar, there 2-3 main parties and some minor parties. that make coalitions common.

In my case liberalemocrats are the main party, but minor Christian Democrats, greens and Social-liberals are the government coalition parties. giving the coalition in total 96/186 seats.
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Postby Novaya Equestria » Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:36 am

A multi-party system is preferable to a two-party system, which is bad because it actually prevents other multiple parties from being involved; the only way said multiple parties can circumvent this is if they revise their views in order to be a part of either one of two majority parties.

That being said, I don't mind several big tent groups and coalition parties.
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Postby Bagong Luzon » Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:25 am

New Luzon does not have political parties as they are conventionally understood, the closest analog in the Royal Assembly being the various factions the Counts affiliate themselves with out of mutual self-interest. That being said, if your parliament is too large for a two-party system to be viable, then you need to scale up the number of parties; 4-6 sounds reasonable enough for most of us in this thread, but a seventh might not hurt too much.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:43 am

Veraguas wrote:4-5 sounds like a good practical number. More than 10 is just excessive.


More than 10 adds political flavor. Everyone has 4-7 political parties, not many have 16+

For example in Thermodolia there are 21 parties in the Federal Parliament grouped into 5 coalitions
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Postby Republica Federal de Catalunya » Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:54 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Veraguas wrote:4-5 sounds like a good practical number. More than 10 is just excessive.


More than 10 adds political flavor. Everyone has 4-7 political parties, not many have 16+

For example in Thermodolia there are 21 parties in the Federal Parliament grouped into 5 coalitions


If got 10 in the parliament now ranging from alt-left to alt-right and a Government coalition of 4 centrist parties and sometimes is difficult to pass new legislation.

More local parties and Ethnic minorities nationalist parties.
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Postby Galanica » Sat Apr 01, 2023 9:54 pm

I choose 15+ for the poll, just because I thought it would be funny.

To give a serious answer, I think 3-4 parties is ideal. It's more than a 2 party system (which is pretty flawed), but it isn't an excessive number like 6 or 7.
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Postby Kostrotyevsk » Sun Apr 02, 2023 4:27 am

Galanica wrote:I choose 15+ for the poll, just because I thought it would be funny.

To give a serious answer, I think 3-4 parties is ideal. It's more than a 2 party system (which is pretty flawed), but it isn't an excessive number like 6 or 7.

My friend look at my parliament Facebook, scroll to the House of Representatives lol
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Postby Kostrotyevsk » Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:03 pm

What I was thinking is should I have a Canada like parliament with x many seats and x many parties
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Postby El Lazaro » Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:48 pm

As many as makes sense for your nation. A country with a proportional electoral system, religious/ethnic/geographic diversity, stark class divisions, a fractured political history, major powerbrokers outside of the central government (i.e. unusually strong local rulers or religious organizations) which inform political identity is likely to have many political parties. Conversely, homogenous nations with majoritarian political systems and a general lack of many social divides (with those which do exist being lumped into political coalitions) are unlikely to have to multiparty systems regardless if their populations wish they did.

The groups people are part of inform their beliefs and define their interests, and certain electoral systems mathematically favor two-party or multi-party systems, so the number of political parties a country has is largely a question about its society/culture and political system.

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Postby Krakoyea » Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:24 pm

I say multi-party would give you more creative freedom and honestly in the real world having two parties can cause issues down the line as the US and UK show.

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Postby The Aquaria » Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:53 am

A two party system sucks. I would rather call that a Two-Party Dictatorship, since it disallow any kind of diversity and eventually causes monopoly of one single power class. That is nothing different from a one-party state.
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Postby Greater Marine » Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:05 am

The best amount is between 4 and 8. Enough for a diversity of opinions, but not so many that it becomes impossible to form an effective government.
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Postby Minoa » Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:38 am

Two-party politics has, in my opinion, a significant risk of increasing political polarisation to insane levels: just look at the state of politics in the United States.
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Postby Kostrotyevsk » Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:48 am

Love all the comments yall stated. I am becoming a like european thing like France where many parties gather together.
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Postby Democratic Poopland » Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:23 am

I want to just say that you should be a one-party state. I shouldn't.
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