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Postby Nue Cascadia » Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:09 am

OR, how about a simpler solution?

Get rid of all zoning laws, get rid of all high rise bans, and get rid of regulations regarding housing.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:15 am

Nue Cascadia wrote:OR, how about a simpler solution?

Get rid of all zoning laws, get rid of all high rise bans, and get rid of regulations regarding housing.

High rises in areas without city sewer and water are remarkably bad ideas
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Postby Parmistan » Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:15 am

Nue Cascadia wrote:OR, how about a simpler solution?

Get rid of all zoning laws, get rid of all high rise bans, and get rid of regulations regarding housing.


Libertarian Capitalists never fail to recommend the least useful solution to any given problem.

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Postby Nue Cascadia » Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:18 am

Parmistan wrote:
Nue Cascadia wrote:OR, how about a simpler solution?

Get rid of all zoning laws, get rid of all high rise bans, and get rid of regulations regarding housing.


Libertarian Capitalists never fail to recommend the least useful solution to any given problem.


Obsessed, much?

Keep coping, kid.
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Postby Parmistan » Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:43 am

Nue Cascadia wrote:
Parmistan wrote:
Libertarian Capitalists never fail to recommend the least useful solution to any given problem.


Obsessed, much?

Keep coping, kid.


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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:45 am

Nue Cascadia wrote:OR, how about a simpler solution?

Get rid of all zoning laws, get rid of all high rise bans, and get rid of regulations regarding housing.


No this is an awful idea.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:52 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Nue Cascadia wrote:OR, how about a simpler solution?

Get rid of all zoning laws, get rid of all high rise bans, and get rid of regulations regarding housing.

High rises in areas without city sewer and water are remarkably bad ideas


Was going to post something similar. The same could be said for massive housing builds without consideration of resources.

One thing that would really help New York? An upgrade of the sewer and water systems. Told it’s not flashy so it’s not really wanted.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:59 am

Nue Cascadia wrote:OR, how about a simpler solution?

Get rid of all zoning laws, get rid of all high rise bans, and get rid of regulations regarding housing.

No thanks, I'd rather not emulate Houston.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:05 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Nue Cascadia wrote:OR, how about a simpler solution?

Get rid of all zoning laws, get rid of all high rise bans, and get rid of regulations regarding housing.

No thanks, I'd rather not emulate Houston.


Says the person who does not care one iota about the city they work in and doesn't understand how building a new light rail would help the city and seems to like seeing the city suffer.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:08 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:No thanks, I'd rather not emulate Houston.


Says the person who does not care one iota about the city they work in and doesn't understand how building a new light rail would help the city and seems to like seeing the city suffer.

Got nothing better to do with your time than harass me?
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:14 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Says the person who does not care one iota about the city they work in and doesn't understand how building a new light rail would help the city and seems to like seeing the city suffer.

Got nothing better to do with your time than harass me?


Its not harassment when i use you own words.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:15 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Got nothing better to do with your time than harass me?


Its not harassment when i use you own words.

It is harassment when you keep replying with the same irrelevant ad hominem any time I post something.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:19 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Got nothing better to do with your time than harass me?


Its not harassment when i use you own words.


You might want to rethink that one a few times?
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Postby Swynchynwc » Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:16 pm

Nue Cascadia wrote:OR, how about a simpler solution?

Get rid of all zoning laws, get rid of all high rise bans, and get rid of regulations regarding housing.

you know what we really need? MORE SLUMS

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Postby Dylar » Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:45 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:It's a ridiculous proposal to address housing in major cities just like forcing the poor and rich to compete in the exact same way over a smaller amount of available land but I have zero interest in spreading this species of a subject so again: the easiest fix is probably just not living places you can't afford to live. These are genuinely some of the most in demand areas in the world there are opportunities outside of major cities.


Tell me what opportunities there are in a small town in Kentucky, Missouri, Canada or the UK.

automotive mechanics, farming, plumbing, electrical, postal service, retail, manufacturing, warehousing, real-estate, law, food service, Sherriff's dept., and that's without me looking anything up.
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Postby Wolfgaria » Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:13 pm

3D Printed House's could possibly solve some of the issues.

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:16 pm

Dylar wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Tell me what opportunities there are in a small town in Kentucky, Missouri, Canada or the UK.

automotive mechanics, farming, plumbing, electrical, postal service, retail, manufacturing, warehousing, real-estate, law, food service, Sherriff's dept., and that's without me looking anything up.

The forestry, fish and game, firefighting.
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Postby Len Hyet » Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:12 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Dylar wrote:automotive mechanics, farming, plumbing, electrical, postal service, retail, manufacturing, warehousing, real-estate, law, food service, Sherriff's dept., and that's without me looking anything up.

The forestry, fish and game, firefighting.

Veterinarian, vet tech, dog groomer, teacher, doctor, nurse, pharmacy tech, janitor, accountant, barber, dentist, any of the massively growing remote jobs currently available, etc. I grew up in a large-ish town, around 40,000 people. Plenty of jobs there. Maybe not six figure jobs, but jobs that paid enough to live in town. Probably not as easy now of course, but I imagine it's still doable. Veterinarian is actually a pretty good bet, there's a national shortage, and small towns and farm towns are the worst off. Now obviously vet school is expensive, but there's a corresponding vet tech shortage as well, and that's only an associates degree that's offered at just about every community college in America for around ten grand, which is definitely not a crippling amount of debt.
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Postby Kernen » Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:17 am

San Lumen wrote:
Kernen wrote:I'm pulling six figures in a farm town as a litigator, maybe there are opportunities outside major cities!


Not everyone is you and wants the to live in a small town. stop with the smug attitude.

You asked what opportunities existed. I gave them. Maybe you were just wrong. :)
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Postby Kerwa » Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:47 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:High rises in areas without city sewer and water are remarkably bad ideas


Was going to post something similar. The same could be said for massive housing builds without consideration of resources.

One thing that would really help New York? An upgrade of the sewer and water systems. Told it’s not flashy so it’s not really wanted.


Upgrading the sewers in NYC is impossible for many reasons, not least of which is that the city doesn’t have complete records of where they are.

It’s not even politics at this point.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:34 am

Remember the nyc public housing repair backlog that was 40 billion dollars a few years ago.


Well thanks to nyc government snapping into action that repair backlog is now 78 billion


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/12/nyre ... nycha.html
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:42 am

Ethel mermania wrote:Remember the nyc public housing repair backlog that was 40 billion dollars a few years ago.


Well thanks to nyc government snapping into action that repair backlog is now 78 billion


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/12/nyre ... nycha.html


Well done NY.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:49 am

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Kernen wrote:This is how you get placed in jail andose your personal assets.

Tell you what, get yourself a traffic ticket and then refuse to pay. See what happens.


I mean we COULD just do a full blown Communist Revolution and liberate the Proletariat...

Which will most likely end up in civil war with millions of deaths as people run out of supplies.

Not really a great start
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:52 am

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Des-Bal wrote:Yeah it'll definitely be this time! If for some reason it doesn't though and it would be delightfully fertile ground if someone wanted to create a retro-futuristic feudal society and force mankind to toil in his salt mines. If you join willingly I shall permit you to keep some portion of the salt.


So it turns out that never happens if every dude who goes "hey everyone I'm in charge now" is beaten to death in the streets

It’s hard to beat a line of tanks to death.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:57 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Parmistan wrote:
So it turns out that never happens if every dude who goes "hey everyone I'm in charge now" is beaten to death in the streets

It’s hard to beat a line of tanks to death.

Ironic how the "ban guns, you gun lovers will never beat the government in a fight anyway!" guy is the one advocating a communist revolution, isn't it?
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