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[PASSED] Repeal Liberate Islamic States

Postby Concrete Slab » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:07 pm

First Draft/Intro:
Hello! It’s Concrete Slab back at it again with another repeal. I’m sure many of you have seen the situation with Islamic States and the corresponding liberation. I am pleased to report that the operation has been a huge success! Thanks to a joint task force led by the League, IS will never threaten anyone ever again. In consultation with military leaders, I present this draft to bring Operation Majapahit to a close. As always, feedback is appreciated!

The Security Council,

Reaffirming the notion that Islamic States has caused significant harm to the international community through its operations of colonialism and oppression, both those led by their Islamic Army and their other pattern support of maligned invader regions,

Horrified to find out that the supernatural collapse of Islamic States was the result of repeat violations of international law and warfare regulations,

Appreciating the support provided by countless regions and nations across the world for Security Council Resolution #427 (SCR #427), nonetheless finding that the repeal of the resolution is critical to the final pacification of Islamic States,

Applauding the coalition counter-invasion led by The League, including The Order of the Grey Wardens, 10000 Islands, Europeia, The Mystical Alliance, Declansburg, and The Union of Democratic States,

Cherishing the poetic justice of The Mystical Alliance’s role in silencing Islamic States forever, as their predecessor region was one of the many tormented in-part by the Islamic Army in the early months of 2022,

Hoping this successful passing of judgment serves as a warning to those across the multiverse who would violate the sovereignty of innocent regions for nothing but the pleasure of wreaking destruction,

Hereby proudly repeals Security Council Resolution #427: Liberate Islamic States.

Co-authored by Rhaza


The Security Council,

Reaffirming the notion established in the target resolution that Islamic States has caused significant harm to the international community through its operations of colonialism and oppression,

Understanding that Islamic States led a variety of operations with intent to seize and destroy smaller regions, or establish military subsidiaries, in addition to supporting larger invasions by mainstream raider organizations,

Congratulating the defender and independent forces which were able to seize the aforementioned possessions through direct intervention or refound operations,

Censuring the maintenance of various acquisitions of Islamic States by other raider militaries or individuals on behalf of Islamic States’ successor region or for their own gratification,

Horrified to find out that the supernatural collapse of Islamic States (the nation, founder of the conquered region) was the result of repeat violations of international law and warfare regulations,

Appreciating the support provided by countless regions and nations across the world for Security Council Resolution #427 (SCR #427), nonetheless finding that the repeal of the resolution is critical to the final pacification of Islamic States,

Applauding the coalition counter-invasion led by The League, including The Order of the Grey Wardens, 10000 Islands, Europeia, The Mystical Alliance, Declansburg, and The Union of Democratic States,

Cherishing the poetic justice of The Mystical Alliance’s role in silencing Islamic States forever, as their predecessor region was one of the many tormented in-part by the Islamic Army in the early months of 2022,

Hoping this successful passing of judgment serves as a warning to those across the multiverse who would violate the sovereignty of innocent regions for nothing but the pleasure of wreaking destruction,

Hereby proudly repeals Security Council Resolution #427: Liberate Islamic States.

Co-authored by Rhaza
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Postby The Ice States » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:08 pm

Concrete Slab wrote:Horrified to find out that the supernatural collapse of Islamic States was the result of repeat violations of international law and warfare regulations,

You link to the nation Islamic States, rather than the region here. :P
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Postby Concrete Slab » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:09 pm

The Ice States wrote:
Concrete Slab wrote:Horrified to find out that the supernatural collapse of Islamic States was the result of repeat violations of international law and warfare regulations,

You link to the nation Islamic States, rather than the region here. :P

Fixed XD
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:20 pm

So the occupying force plans on sitting there for the next three or four months gaining influence to actually password the region? Good to know….
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Postby Gest is Best » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:24 pm

Wayneactia wrote:So the occupying force plans on sitting there for the next three or four months gaining influence to actually password the region? Good to know….

9 years and still yet to figure out how inf works
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Postby Rhaza » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:30 pm

In my capacity as Delegate of Islamic States, full support.

Real talk though - thanks for taking point on this, Slab!

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Postby Rusticus I Damianus » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:36 pm

Now the job of locking the region down.
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Postby Orcuo » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:45 pm

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Postby WayNeacTia » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:53 pm

Gest is Best wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:So the occupying force plans on sitting there for the next three or four months gaining influence to actually password the region? Good to know….

9 years and still yet to figure out how inf works

Q has 113 influence. Now I don’t have an influence calculator in front of me, nor do I know if one exists, but at 112 influence (per update?) with 53 endo’s, it will be at least a month. Now if Q wants to sit WA locked for a month or so, to capture a region which was toast as soon as the founder was deated, then be my guest I suppose. In the mean time United Mapgame Nations can burn. I guess they didn’t grease the skids enough to warrant attention from the game’s “defenders”.
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

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Postby Quebecshire » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:58 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
Gest is Best wrote:9 years and still yet to figure out how inf works

Q has 113 influence. Now I don’t have an influence calculator in front of me, nor do I know if one exists, but at 112 influence (per update?) with 53 endo’s, it will be at least a month. Now if Q wants to sit WA locked for a month or so, to capture a region which was toast as soon as the founder was deated, then be my guest I suppose. In the mean time United Mapgame Nations can burn. I guess they didn’t grease the skids enough to warrant attention from the game’s “defenders”.

are you factoring in the fact that we have 12 ROs lol?

(also as a side note, and afaik raiders are aware, United Mapgame Nations is not being liberated largely due to content on its Discord server which led us to decide to not intervene)
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:21 am

Hi CS,

Just one thing - the following bit of the first clause doesn’t make much sense to me.
both those led by their Islamic Army and their other pattern support of maligned invader regions,


Not sure what you’re trying to say here. Other than that a tidy repeal.
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Postby Rhaza » Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:23 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Not sure what you’re trying to say here.

My bad... that part was me. I'll highlight it for tomorrow so CS or I can address it. Basically it is supposed to note that IS both led some small raids and piled on bigger ops for other groups like BoM, it'll get revised. Thanks BBD!

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Postby WayNeacTia » Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:56 am

Quebecshire wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:Q has 113 influence. Now I don’t have an influence calculator in front of me, nor do I know if one exists, but at 112 influence (per update?) with 53 endo’s, it will be at least a month. Now if Q wants to sit WA locked for a month or so, to capture a region which was toast as soon as the founder was deated, then be my guest I suppose. In the mean time United Mapgame Nations can burn. I guess they didn’t grease the skids enough to warrant attention from the game’s “defenders”.

are you factoring in the fact that we have 12 ROs lol?

(also as a side note, and afaik raiders are aware, United Mapgame Nations is not being liberated largely due to content on its Discord server which led us to decide to not intervene)

Interesting. I am sure you can provide some sort of proof backing up that claim? Are you sure it isn’t the 130+ pile sitting there instead? Asking for a friend….
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:23 am

I would like to see clarification of the fact that "the malevolent forces of invading" did not "attempt to secure their effective puppet state from counter-invasion" beyond the first couple of hours after Cubic submitted his Liberation proposal.
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Postby Gest is Best » Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:59 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Quebecshire wrote:are you factoring in the fact that we have 12 ROs lol?

(also as a side note, and afaik raiders are aware, United Mapgame Nations is not being liberated largely due to content on its Discord server which led us to decide to not intervene)

Interesting. I am sure you can provide some sort of proof backing up that claim? Are you sure it isn’t the 130+ pile sitting there instead? Asking for a friend….

It is standard MO for defenders to not liberate a region due to OOC behavior. UMN is far from the first of many regions we refrained from assisting due to problematic content, I am not sure why the practice is being called into practice now.

On topic, as a regional officer involved with this operation I am very proud to support this proposal in full.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:24 am

Gest is Best wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:Interesting. I am sure you can provide some sort of proof backing up that claim? Are you sure it isn’t the 130+ pile sitting there instead? Asking for a friend….

It is standard MO for defenders to not liberate a region due to OOC behavior. UMN is far from the first of many regions we refrained from assisting due to problematic content, I am not sure why the practice is being called into practice now.

On topic, as a regional officer involved with this operation I am very proud to support this proposal in full.

Once again, can ANYONE provide some sort of evidence? You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t take your word at face value…..
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Concrete Slab wrote:Hello! It’s Concrete Slab back at it again with another repeal. I’m sure many of you have seen the situation with Islamic States and the corresponding liberation. I am pleased to report that the operation has been a huge success! Thanks to a joint task force led by the League, IS will never threaten anyone ever again. In consultation with military leaders, I present this draft to bring Operation Majapahit to a close. As always, feedback is appreciated!

The Security Council,

Reaffirming the notion that Islamic States has caused significant harm to the international community through its operations of colonialism and oppression, both those led by their Islamic Army and their other pattern support of maligned invader regions,

Horrified to find out that the supernatural collapse of Islamic States was the result of repeat violations of international law and warfare regulations,

Appreciating the support provided by countless regions and nations across the world for Security Council Resolution #427 (SCR #427), nonetheless finding that the repeal of the resolution is critical to the final pacification of Islamic States,

Applauding the coalition counter-invasion led by The League, including The Order of the Grey Wardens, 10000 Islands, Europeia, The Mystical Alliance, Declansburg, and The Union of Democratic States,

Cherishing the poetic justice of The Mystical Alliance’s role in silencing Islamic States forever, as their predecessor region was one of the many tormented in-part by the Islamic Army in the early months of 2022,

Hoping this successful passing of judgment serves as a warning to those across the multiverse who would violate the sovereignty of innocent regions for nothing but the pleasure of wreaking destruction,

Hereby proudly repeals Security Council Resolution #427: Liberate Islamic States.

Co-authored by Rhaza

Actually, I led the counter-invasion.
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Postby Chef Big Dog » Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:54 am

Wayneactia wrote:Once again, can ANYONE provide some sort of evidence? You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t take your word at face value…..

Can confirm that I was informed of the region's do not defend status. Generally speaking of a region has an active native community and defenders don't jump on it it's due to something OOC.

Armed with this knowledge you can perhaps avoid looking like a fool in the future.
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Postby The North Polish Union » Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:23 am

With even a fraction of those 53 endos you all could've absolutely obliterated BoM's tag run at major. Especailly so since your target here updates only 6 minutes in. Its impressive to bring those kinds of numbers to update but stomping Islamic States isn't going to stop its former members from operating out of Dar-al-Islam and Wayne has a point that this ties up some of defending's big-time updaters as ROs, even if he's wrong about the timescale.
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Postby Rhaza » Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:16 am

The Ice States wrote:
Concrete Slab wrote:Horrified to find out that the supernatural collapse of Islamic States was the result of repeat violations of international law and warfare regulations,

You link to the nation Islamic States, rather than the region here. :P


I mentioned this on Discord to Slab, but this was intentional. It's meant to note the deletion of the founder similar to how the initial liberation does (though with some more implied detail since we now know why he was deleted).

It'll be reworked and better clarified alongside BBD's criticism when we get around to it later, thank you though! :)

The North Polish Union wrote:With even a fraction of those 53 endos you all could've absolutely obliterated BoM's tag run at major. Especailly so since your target here updates only 6 minutes in. Its impressive to bring those kinds of numbers to update but stomping Islamic States isn't going to stop its former members from operating out of Dar-al-Islam and Wayne has a point that this ties up some of defending's big-time updaters as ROs, even if he's wrong about the timescale.

Very sad about Kanjuura being tied up as an RO. He was surely 0s chasing raiders on their tag runs from his mission trip in Chile until recently. Same as Matthew given he was retired until like a week ago.

We're capable of running our own operations and taking such things into account, thanks. Go back to complaining in the BoM server while we have our RMB party.

Wayneactia wrote:at 112 influence (per update?) with 53 endo’s

This is a good one, thanks Wayne.

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Postby The North Polish Union » Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:06 am

Rhaza wrote:Very sad about Kanjuura being tied up as an RO. He was surely 0s chasing raiders on their tag runs from his mission trip in Chile until recently. Same as Matthew given he was retired until like a week ago.

I'm sure that Kanjuura and Matthew being ROs frees up other updaters such as yourself to execute those 0s chases. Oh wait...

Rhaza wrote:59365"]We're capable of running our own operations and taking such things into account, thanks. Go back to complaining in the BoM server while we have our RMB party.

I prefer to keep the bulk of my complaining on-site if possible. What's the fun otherwise? ;)
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Postby WayNeacTia » Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:44 pm

Chef Big Dog wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:Once again, can ANYONE provide some sort of evidence? You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t take your word at face value…..

Can confirm that I was informed of the region's do not defend status. Generally speaking of a region has an active native community and defenders don't jump on it it's due to something OOC.

Armed with this knowledge you can perhaps avoid looking like a fool in the future.

Again.... For the third time. Can someone provide a single fucking shred of evidence of problematic OOC behavior? If there is legitimate reasons, then fine. Because to me it seems awfully convenient that they are occupying IS, and sacrificing a valid defense simply for the win. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I will admit it, but some sort of evidence is required.

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Postby Chef Big Dog » Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:06 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
Chef Big Dog wrote:Can confirm that I was informed of the region's do not defend status. Generally speaking of a region has an active native community and defenders don't jump on it it's due to something OOC.

Armed with this knowledge you can perhaps avoid looking like a fool in the future.

Again.... For the third time. Can someone provide a single fucking shred of evidence of problematic OOC behavior? If there is legitimate reasons, then fine. Because to me it seems awfully convenient that they are occupying IS, and sacrificing a valid defense simply for the win. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I will admit it, but some sort of evidence is required.

No. If a raider officer and RO on the occupation telling you that what defenders are saying in this thread is accurate then I don't know what to tell you. If you really want your "required" evidence reach out to someone in the know(preferably not me) on discord. Alternatively you can continue with your weird conspiracy theories and keep making yourself look foolish in this thread. The choice is yours, but I know what I would do.
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