Ripping Off The Bandage: Fascism, How Do You Feel?

[The Great Nevada Overlord]

Thank you all for spreading your opinions in an orderly and constructive manner! I have seen many sides of this debate, ranging from pro-fascists to pro-stalinists and it has been fascinating to me to read all of them and to have conversations with you!

I have seen posts about furries, communists, monarchists, democrats, even evolution.

But never about the villain of history.

I do know that I will be bombarded if I don't include a good opinion in the OP so here we go.

I'm adding this because some people said that I didn't exsplain fascism. Note, this will be OPINIONATED. Fascism is the unholy child of militarism and nationalism. Fascism believes that the "master race" should be the only one within its borders. It also believes strongly in imperialism, thinking of itself as deserving everything it could possibly get.

Now fascism has an even more horrific cousin, nazism! The main difference is nazism believes in Lebensraum (or "living space" in German) which states that the far east needs to be depopulated for German resettlement. But fascism and nazism both are ; 1. Anti-semitic. 2. Totalitarian. 3. Homicidal. 4. Imperialist.

For more information, I would recommend Ur-Fascism, for more pro-fash explanations I would recommend Mein Kampf.

To me, fascism is an abhorrent thing. It's comprised of many parts so lets lay them out and break them down.

•Social Darwinism
•Eugenics
•Nationalism
•Militarism
•Psychopathic And Sociopathic Behavior
•Obsession With Order

Starting with Social Darwinism, I believe that it is nothing more than fash gibberish. The belief that one human is worth more or is smarter than others because of race is nonsensical.

Eugenics is the belief that killing a part of the population to induce survival of the fittest is good. Some people that are the targets of eugenics are, mentally unstable/handicapped folks, Jewish people, Africans, Chinese, so on so forth. Basically it's just racism + ableism. Obviously it makes no sense.

I'll combine these two into one because of how much they depend on each other. Nationalism isn't bad if contained. The people of your nation have to care about it, if they don't your state means nothing, but too much nationaliam is bad. That's where militarism come in to play. Now many modern militaristic societies exist today, mainly the USA. But it isn't good to just invade nations for the fun of it.

Now this one might sound a bit out there, but fascism has many psychopathic and sociopathic traits, mainly the disregard of other humans lives and their own self obsessions. Adolf Hitler cared only about his reputation, nothing else. He killed his dogs thinking that the Soviets were going to put them up on display, and ofcourse he can't have that! He also caused the death of 6 million people in the holocaust. Lest we forget. [Edit: I had forgotten to mention the horrible acts done by Unit 731 and The Angel of Death. Also with Unit 731, there are some shows and movies but I wouldn't advise you to search them up.]

Fascism only cares about one thing, order. And order alone. Death is wrought upon thee should thou darest stand up to thine own state.

This was a long rant, but I applaud you for reading it all.
Now please start your own talk on the matter, but also keep it civil!

Please keep this civil, we aren't trying to argue! Keep the thread on fascism, we aren't asking what countries are fascist, we aren't talking about communism vs fascism, we are talking about FASCISM and its ideas, its opponents, its ethnics etc. Why am I adding this? Because I don't want to deal with thread locking or wasting mod time or even the Ominous Redtext™. Thank you for reading!

[Mountains and Volcanoes]

I have seen posts about furries, communists, monarchists, democrats, even evolution.

But never about the villain of history.

I do know that I will be bombarded if I don't include a good opinion in the OP so here we go.

To me, fascism is an abhorrent thing. It's comprised of many parts so lets lay them out and break them down.

•Social Darwinism
•Eugenics
•Nationalism
•Militarism
•Psychopathic And Sociopathic Behavior
•Obsession With Order

Starting with Social Darwinism, I believe that it is nothing more than fash gibberish. The belief that one human is worth more or is smarter than others because of race is nonsensical.

Eugenics is the belief that killing a part of the population to induce survival of the fittest is good. Some people that are the targets of eugenics are, mentally unstable/handicapped folks, Jewish people, Africans, Chinese, so on so forth. Basically it's just racism + ableism. Obviously it makes no sense.

I'll combine these two into one because of how much they depend on each other. Nationalism isn't bad if contained. The people of your nation have to care about it, if they don't your state means nothing, but too much nationaliam is bad. That's where militarism come in to play. Now many modern militaristic societies exist today, mainly the USA. But it isn't good to just invade nations for the fun of it.

Now this one might sound a bit out there, but fascism has many psychopathic and sociopathic traits, mainly the disregard of other humans lives and their own self obsessions. Adolf Hitler cared only about his reputation, nothing else. He killed his dogs thinking that the Soviets were going to put them up on display, and of[ ]course he can't have that! He also caused the death of 6 million people in the holocaust. Lest we forget.

Fascism only cares about one thing, order. And order alone. Death is wrought down upon thee if thy dare stand up to thine own state.

This was a long rant, but I applaud you for reading it all.
Now please start you own talk on the matter, but also keep it civil!

Fascism comes in many forms! Isn’t exclusive to whites but regardless, it brings out the “worst in people”! It really is abhorrent...

[Countesia]

My feelings are simple, I don't like extremism. It's a short term solution to long term issues and trades any and all sense of pragmatism and rational thought for emotionally compromised decision making.

[East Lukalkus]

Mixed, there are elements of it I like such as its anti-communism but it's often genocidal and its economic third positionism is idiotic, it's a preferable system to any socialist/communist government but I don't think it's a very practical ideology

[Observation Post 13]

I've seen a really interesting video by Tom Nicholas that talks about the Authoritarian Personality, a theory that argues that some people are more susceptible to fascist ideology than others. These people may be attracted to authoritarian leaders and systems of government on a psychological level, even if they think they aren't.

[Strastoterpets]

I've always found fascism, and other similar ideologies, to be rather interesting. Now...is it fair to call the ideology the "villain of history"? There's different forms of fascism, some of which weren't exactly eye-to-eye with Hitler's views. If we're going off off of the amount of people dead I'd reckon that communism, more specifically Maoism and Stalinism, was much worse.

[TheKeyToJoy]

I've always found fascism, and other similar ideologies, to be rather interesting. Now...is it fair to call the ideology the "villain of history"? There's different forms of fascism, some of which weren't exactly eye-to-eye with Hitler's views. If we're going off off of the amount of people dead I'd reckon that communism, more specifically Maoism and Stalinism, was much worse.

Hilters fascism was worse than there’s.

[Mountains and Volcanoes]

I've always found fascism, and other similar ideologies, to be rather interesting. Now...is it fair to call the ideology the "villain of history"? There's different forms of fascism, some of which weren't exactly eye-to-eye with Hitler's views. If we're going off off of the amount of people dead I'd reckon that communism, more specifically Maoism and Stalinism, was much worse.

Need thy remind you about the fact that social structures rarely change in spite of ideology!

[Free Algerstonia]

fascism is the ideology of the NWO, the fringe white nationalist groups and neofascist groups are pawns of the deep state just like the woke corporations and career politicians are, fascism demands control just like the neoliberal system demands control

[WW1 carrier pigeon]

I kinda agree with some parts like nationalism, but most fascist regimes are very authoritarian

[Portzania]

fascism is the ideology of the NWO, the fringe white nationalist groups and neofascist groups are pawns of the deep state just like the woke corporations and career politicians are, fascism demands control just like the neoliberal system demands control

This is true, as Orwell was one of the first fascists, he even inspired Mussolini to take power in Italy. Damn social democrats always undermining our commvnist VTOPIA...

[Observation Post 13]

In the modern world, fascism has largely been rejected and condemned as a dangerous and oppressive ideology, and is not widely practiced or supported.

Worryingly, there have been instances of fascism and far-right extremist movements gaining traction and influence in some countries in recent years. For example, in the United States, the Ku Klus Klan and the Proud Boys are all American fascist groups. economic and social unrest, political polarization, and the rise of authoritarian leaders have exacerbated this issue.

It's easy to tell openly fascist groups because they usually show up during protest events with large swastikas, skulls, and dress in all black. Some hardcore neo-nazis like to wear paramilitary uniforms and salute each other with the nazi salute.

Some fascist groups are uncomfortable with who they are and actively conceal or disguise their ideas and agendas to avoid detection and opposition. Like using code words or phrases, or disguising themselves under the veneer of conservatism, patriotism, and religious views.

[Portzania]

In the modern world, fascism has largely been rejected and condemned as a dangerous and oppressive ideology, and is not widely practiced or supported.

Worryingly, there have been instances of fascism and far-right extremist movements gaining traction and influence in some countries in recent years. For example, in the United States, the Ku Klus Klan and the Proud Boys are all American fascist groups. economic and social unrest, political polarization, and the rise of authoritarian leaders have exacerbated this issue.

It's easy to tell openly fascist groups because they usually show up during protest events with large swastikas, skulls, and dress in all black. Some hardcore neo-nazis like to wear paramilitary uniforms and salute each other with the nazi salute.

Some fascist groups are uncomfortable with who they are and actively conceal or disguise their ideas and agendas to avoid detection and opposition. Like using code words or phrases, or disguising themselves under the veneer of conservatism, patriotism, and religious views.

like social democracy... Good thing I punch fascists and they tremble under their beds when they see how much reddit gold I have. Truly, fascism could never come into fruition EVER again with the defense of us antifa super soldiers.

[Engadine Mcdonalds 1997]

Fascism is probably the worst ideology to have been concocted, focusing on rabid xenophobia, hyper militarisation, and unrestrained capitalism, and the amount of people who don't get that last point really worry me. I mean, if you think that fascism is anti-capitalist in any way aside from the slogans and aesthetics, then you've been lied to and I don't blame you for believing such deceptions, and all I can really say is go read Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti, at least the first third if you're not a red.

[Strastoterpets]

I've always found fascism, and other similar ideologies, to be rather interesting. Now...is it fair to call the ideology the "villain of history"? There's different forms of fascism, some of which weren't exactly eye-to-eye with Hitler's views. If we're going off off of the amount of people dead I'd reckon that communism, more specifically Maoism and Stalinism, was much worse.

Hilters fascism was worse than there’s.

Statistically speaking, the governments of Stalin and Mao killed far more people than Hitler ever did. Does this mean I'm condoning Hitler's actions? No. But it's a widely-known fact, my friend.

I've always found fascism, and other similar ideologies, to be rather interesting. Now...is it fair to call the ideology the "villain of history"? There's different forms of fascism, some of which weren't exactly eye-to-eye with Hitler's views. If we're going off off of the amount of people dead I'd reckon that communism, more specifically Maoism and Stalinism, was much worse.

Need thy remind you about the fact that social structures rarely change in spite of ideology!

I mean, it's actually true.

[Port Caverton]

Horrible ideology. The US should have intervened in WW2 earlier against the genocidal régimes of Germany, Japan and Italy

[Portzania]

Horrible ideology. The US should have intervened in WW2 earlier against the genocidal régimes of Germany, Japan and Italy

Yeah, and the axis should have invaded Canada and USA for their genocides against natives.

[Mountains and Volcanoes]

In the modern world, fascism has largely been rejected and condemned as a dangerous and oppressive ideology, and is not widely practiced or supported.

Worryingly, there have been instances of fascism and far-right extremist movements gaining traction and influence in some countries in recent years. For example, in the United States, the Ku Klus Klan and the Proud Boys are all American fascist groups. economic and social unrest, political polarization, and the rise of authoritarian leaders have exacerbated this issue.

It's easy to tell openly fascist groups because they usually show up during protest events with large swastikas, skulls, and dress in all black. Some hardcore neo-nazis like to wear paramilitary uniforms and salute each other with the nazi salute.

Some fascist groups are uncomfortable with who they are and actively conceal or disguise their ideas and agendas to avoid detection and opposition. Like using code words or phrases, or disguising themselves under the veneer of conservatism, patriotism, and religious views.

Need they not forget deny and to explore and exploit any Avenue at reach (from video games, message/image boards, text / Chatrooms) threw co-opting the media’s communication via “edgy” jokes and veneer of deniability!

[Observation Post 13]

like social democracy... Good thing I punch fascists and they tremble under their beds when they see how much reddit gold I have. Truly, fascism could never come into fruition EVER again with the defense of us antifa super soldiers.

Another thing is that lots of online platforms and communities, social media, forums, and online groups have algorithms that pushes alt-right ideology and propaganda to vulnerable guys and gals. Weird people's videos like Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson, for example.

Check this video out made by Adam Something of someone's experience of radicalization and how they escaped the Alt-Right pipeline.

[Observation Post 13]

Need they not forget deny and to explore and exploit any Avenue at reach (from video games, message/image boards, text / Chatrooms) threw co-opting the media’s communication via “edgy” jokes and veneer of deniability!

Sad but true

[Ifreann]

Fascism is bad and stinky.

[East Lukalkus]

like social democracy... Good thing I punch fascists and they tremble under their beds when they see how much reddit gold I have. Truly, fascism could never come into fruition EVER again with the defense of us antifa super soldiers.

Another thing is that lots of online platforms and communities, social media, forums, and online groups have algorithms that pushes alt-right ideology and propaganda to vulnerable guys and gals. Weird people's videos like Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson, for example.

Check this video out made by Adam Something of someone's experience of radicalization and how they escaped the Alt-Right pipeline.

I don't want to sound like I'm jumping the gun here but are you calling Jordan Peterson a fascist?

[Hispida]

stalin and roosevelt should've ignored churchill and killed 100,000 nazi officers like they wanted to

fascism is an ontological evil and any action against it is morally justified

[Floofybit]

Fascism is terrible. Especially the racist part

[East Lukalkus]

Fascism is terrible. Especially the racist part