[Abandoned] "Condemn Mynation"

[Atlantic Isles]

The Security Council,

Noting with disgust numerous low-effort resolution submissions by Mynation,

Concerned that these resolutions are a contradiction of the high standard to which WA proposals ought to be held,

Disappointed in Mynation's blatant and shameless badge-chasing,

Alarmed that allowing these idly-wrought resolutions to be submitted without condemnation may render the World Assembly impotent,

Certain that allowing Mynation to sustain no punishment will set a precedent for low-effort resolutions and proposals to continue,

Hereby condemns Mynation

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I'd like feedback on this ASAP to get this in the queue. Hoping to submit within a few hours of now, so any feedback would be appreciated.

[The Ice States]

Against. Submitting bad proposals is not worthy of a condemnation.

[Veneti Marsei]

Be silent wench, Against.

[Floofybit]

"Nation is badge chasing so let's give them a condemn badge!"

Against

[800]

The Security Council,

Noting with disgust numerous low-effort resolution submissions by Mynation,

Concerned that these resolutions are a contradiction of the high standard to which WA proposals ought to be held,

Disappointed in Mynation's blatant and shameless badge-chasing,

Alarmed that allowing these idly-wrought resolutions to be submitted without condemnation may render the World Assembly impotent,

Certain that allowing Mynation to sustain no punishment will set a precedent for low-effort resolutions and proposals to continue,

Hereby condemns Mynation

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I'd like feedback on this ASAP to get this in the queue. Hoping to submit within a few hours of now, so any feedback would be appreciated.

Uhm, no, no, a condemnation would be the holy grail for any badge hunter.

[WayNeacTia]

Let's not mmkay? Rewarding badge hunters with a badge defeats the purpose.

[Atlantic Isles]

Alright, your feedback is received. I've revised this a bit so my logic is a bit clearer.
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The Security Council,

Noting with disgust numerous low-effort resolution submissions by Mynation,

Concerned that these resolutions are a contradiction of the high standard to which World Assembly proposals ought to be held,

Believing that World Assembly resolutions and proposals should be carefully written and deliberately revised,

Recognizing that instead Mynation has created a set of resolutions which serve no true purpose but rather clog up the World Assembly,

Aware that more useful resolutions are in the queue,

Seeing that creating such low-effort resolutions delays voting upon more crucial work,

Alarmed that allowing these idly-wrought resolutions to be submitted without condemnation may render the World Assembly impotent,

Certain that allowing Mynation to sustain no punishment will set a precedent for low-effort resolutions and proposals to continue,

Hereby condemns Mynation

[Kainin]

You state in the proposal that they are badge hunting, yet you want to give them a badge?

Sorry but Against

Edit: Still against, They aren't worthy of a condemn for writing bad proposals.

[800]

Alright, your feedback is received. I've revised this a bit so my logic is a bit clearer.
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The Security Council,

Noting with disgust numerous low-effort resolution submissions by Mynation,

Concerned that these resolutions are a contradiction of the high standard to which World Assembly proposals ought to be held,

Believing that World Assembly resolutions and proposals should be carefully written and deliberately revised,

Recognizing that instead Mynation has created a set of resolutions which serve no true purpose but rather clog up the World Assembly,

Aware that more useful resolutions are in the queue,

Seeing that creating such low-effort resolutions delays voting upon more crucial work,

Alarmed that allowing these idly-wrought resolutions to be submitted without condemnation may render the World Assembly impotent,

Certain that allowing Mynation to sustain no punishment will set a precedent for low-effort resolutions and proposals to continue,

Hereby condemns Mynation

Are you.... are you serious right now? Come on man, read the room!

[The Ice States]

Your redraft misses the point. The only notable thing Mynation has done which you've mentioned in your condemnation is submitting bad proposals. This is not condemnable.

[Atlantic Isles]

The Security Council,

Noting with disgust numerous low-effort resolution submissions by Mynation,

Concerned that these resolutions are a contradiction of the high standard to which WA proposals ought to be held,

Disappointed in Mynation's blatant and shameless badge-chasing,

Alarmed that allowing these idly-wrought resolutions to be submitted without condemnation may render the World Assembly impotent,

Certain that allowing Mynation to sustain no punishment will set a precedent for low-effort resolutions and proposals to continue,

Hereby condemns Mynation

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I'd like feedback on this ASAP to get this in the queue. Hoping to submit within a few hours of now, so any feedback would be appreciated.

Uhm, no, no, a condemnation would be the holy grail for any badge hunter.

I would argue that condemnations are a mark of shame, and personally I would work to avoid one rather than to receive one even as a badge hunter. Don't get me wrong, I see what you're getting at, but I just think that even as a badge hunter that would be something to be avoided. It's beyond badgehunting, too, it's about gumming up the WA and delaying other votes.

[800]

Uhm, no, no, a condemnation would be the holy grail for any badge hunter.

I would argue that condemnations are a mark of shame, and personally I would work to avoid one rather than to receive one even as a badge hunter. Don't get me wrong, I see what you're getting at, but I just think that even as a badge hunter that would be something to be avoided. It's beyond badgehunting, too, it's about gumming up the WA and delaying other votes.

You gotta be kidding me, so you're saying that it is a mark of shame, and not a huge profile badge that anyone will immediately notice upon clicking on their profile, that is worth more than 50 GA and SC writings would ever be.

[Giovanniland]

I would argue that condemnations are a mark of shame

That's the flaw in your argument. They aren't.

[Atlantic Isles]

Alright, I see where you all are coming from. Personally I think the WA should be something to be taken more seriously and that research should be done on them- Mynation clearly didn't do that in "On Warzones", since it's become clear that the Warzones are much more stable than the proposal suggests. I also think that resolutions & proposals should take a stance. Again, "On Warzones" doesn't really do that, and the phrasing of "Aquatic Cleaning Act" is shockingly weak, and submitting such weak documents to the WA does 2 things: 1, it risks making the WA a weaker Assembly, since it sets a precedent for new members to come in and write more weak documents that really don't do much, if anything, and 2, it gums things up for everyone else who's submitted proposals that actually do things. My 2 cents. I'll wait a while for more feedback but at the moment it looks like I'll not be submitting this one.

[Atlantic Isles]

I would argue that condemnations are a mark of shame

That's the flaw in your argument. They aren't.

Well, every time I've seen a nation be condemned it's for doing something that makes them highly unpopular or just generally playing poorly. Seems like this situation fits both of those descriptors pretty well.

[Zanderlock]

I AM SO TIRED OF SEEING THESE LOW-EFFORT WA PROPOSALS. 100% FOR.

[800]

I AM SO TIRED OF SEEING THESE LOW-EFFORT WA PROPOSALS. 100% FOR.

Why are you screaming?

[Giovanniland]

That's the flaw in your argument. They aren't.

Well, every time I've seen a nation be condemned it's for doing something that makes them highly unpopular or just generally playing poorly. Seems like this situation fits both of those descriptors pretty well.

Nope. Almost every condemnation in the SC's history (barring a few attempts in its early history, which had the intention of shaming until people realized it only made the nominee happier) has been in order to recognize someone for 'playing the villain' well, much like commendations are an award for excelling at good things. Essentially both are badges of honor for different things.

[Floofybit]

I AM SO TIRED OF SEEING THESE LOW-EFFORT WA PROPOSALS. 100% FOR.

CONDEMNING THEM WON'T MAKE THEM STOP MAKING LOW-EFFORT WA PROPOSALS. ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK IT WOULD ENCOURAGE IT. STAND AGAINST!!!!!

[Atlantic Isles]

Well, every time I've seen a nation be condemned it's for doing something that makes them highly unpopular or just generally playing poorly. Seems like this situation fits both of those descriptors pretty well.

Nope. Almost every condemnation in the SC's history (barring a few attempts in its early history, which had the intention of shaming until people realized it only made them happier) has been in order to recognize someone for 'playing the villain' well, much like commendations are an award for excelling at good things.

Ah. Haven't been around for a terribly long time, so this is the first I'm hearing of this. I can definitely see the issue here. Thanks for the explanation!

[Free Algerstonia]

Well, every time I've seen a nation be condemned it's for doing something that makes them highly unpopular or just generally playing poorly. Seems like this situation fits both of those descriptors pretty well.

Nope. Almost every condemnation in the SC's history (barring a few attempts in its early history, which had the intention of shaming until people realized it only made the nominee happier) has been in order to recognize someone for 'playing the villain' well, much like commendations are an award for excelling at good things. Essentially both are badges of honor for different things.

one author clogging up both world assembly chambers for three days is not villainous?

[WayNeacTia]

Nope. Almost every condemnation in the SC's history (barring a few attempts in its early history, which had the intention of shaming until people realized it only made the nominee happier) has been in order to recognize someone for 'playing the villain' well, much like commendations are an award for excelling at good things. Essentially both are badges of honor for different things.

one author clogging up both world assembly chambers for three days is not villainous?

If it was done with some intention other than attention, maybe.

[Outer Sparta]

Nope. Almost every condemnation in the SC's history (barring a few attempts in its early history, which had the intention of shaming until people realized it only made the nominee happier) has been in order to recognize someone for 'playing the villain' well, much like commendations are an award for excelling at good things. Essentially both are badges of honor for different things.

one author clogging up both world assembly chambers for three days is not villainous?

Hardly the most heinous act one can do. At worst, it's just a ploy to grab attention and publicity.

[Free Algerstonia]

one author clogging up both world assembly chambers for three days is not villainous?

Hardly the most heinous act one can do. At worst, it's just a ploy to grab attention and publicity.

in the marvel comics, thanos killed half the universe as a ploy to grab attention and publicity by lady death

[Outer Sparta]

Hardly the most heinous act one can do. At worst, it's just a ploy to grab attention and publicity.

in the marvel comics, thanos killed half the universe as a ploy to grab attention and publicity by lady death

Surprised nobody has tried to Thanos snap the WA despite all the threats from different delegations over the years. Only the actual United Nations has been able to do that