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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:29 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:

Ye's points have been proven to be right.


Ye's points, as detailed in the twitter thread, are things like "The Nazis did good things" and "Hitler especially had value."
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:43 pm

Is "debate" what we're calling feeding trolls that say the Nazis did good things? I had thought that was frowned upon.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:48 pm

Necroghastia wrote:Is "debate" what we're calling feeding trolls that say the Nazis did good things? I had thought that was frowned upon.

Correcting them is not feeding them.
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Postby Augusto Pinochetist Chile » Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:52 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Is "debate" what we're calling feeding trolls that say the Nazis did good things? I had thought that was frowned upon.

Correcting them is not feeding them.


The problem is that debating a Nazi, even with substantial evidence to back your claim up, will do nothing to change their hateful mindset. While I painstakingly agree that the comment in question isn’t banworthy as it’s not a direct call for violence, it still feels like an unnecessary burden for the majority of us, who haven’t done anything wrong, to have to debate these extremists. I doubt that anyone on NS forums changes their mind.
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Postby United Calanworie » Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:57 pm

Augusto Pinochetist Chile wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Correcting them is not feeding them.


The problem is that debating a Nazi, even with substantial evidence to back your claim up, will do nothing to change their hateful mindset. While I painstakingly agree that the comment in question isn’t banworthy as it’s not a direct call for violence, it still feels like an unnecessary burden for the majority of us, who haven’t done anything wrong, to have to debate these extremists. I doubt that anyone on NS forums changes their mind.

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Postby Chingis » Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:03 pm

That was about a Factbook and not a forum post.

The prohibition quoted was on Gameside, not on the forums.

In my view, the spirit of the distinction is pretty clearly covered here.

Furthermore, saying that Ye's recent rambling on Hitler having value is an explicit endorsement of all things Nazi to the level that is being described in the mentioned rulings is a long stretch.
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