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Kazak Yeli
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[R] Flaming

Postby Kazak Yeli » Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:58 am

Picairn wrote:
Juristonia wrote:I disagree with quite a few things she's posted in here, but if you think she should be thankful of your help, of all people, saying you have a big ego is being incredibly polite in the mildest way possible.

The level of brazen narcissism to claim someone needs to be grateful for your "help", when that someone has never asked for your backing smh.


Picairn is slandering me.

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Kazak Yeli wrote:Nobody else in this thread has been subject to the amount of slander and hatred that I have. This is unjust.

Go outside and touch grass, honestly. You're pretending that being criticized on NSG means the whole forum is coming for your head or something.

I'd like to report this, too.

El Lazaro wrote:
Kazak Yeli wrote:I have gone to bat for you in this thread more times than I can count, when these people throw unfounded allegations of pro-Russian sentiment at you. We are on the same side.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

She’s gay, Mr. Maupin, and this isn’t a great line regardless.

Another zinger from this guy, seemingly implying that my defence of Sordhau is because I want to date her.
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Postby Picairn » Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:19 am

What I said is only slander if it's false. Your posts in the thread disprove that notion. Regardless I'm not attacking you directly, I'm attacking your actions.
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Postby Kazak Yeli » Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:21 am

Picairn wrote:What I said is only slander if it's false. Your posts in the thread disprove that notion. Regardless I'm not attacking you directly, I'm attacking your actions.

No, you are attacking me.

Narcissism is a personal quality. You are falsely claiming that I'm a narcissist, all because I dare to disagree with your opinions.
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Postby Picairn » Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:25 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:No, you are attacking me.

Narcissism is a personal quality. You are falsely claiming that I'm a narcissist, all because I dare to disagree with your opinions.

Narcissism can be used to describe behaviors. That last part is wholly a product of your imagination.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:07 am

I’d like to add this report as well from same thread:

Perikuresu wrote:
Kazak Yeli wrote:I have gone to bat for you in this thread more times than I can count, when these people throw unfounded allegations of pro-Russian sentiment at you. We are on the same side.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Sordhau been on multiple iterations of the Ukraine thread and on many other threads on NS, and especially threads with debates, and she has shown to be capable of taking criticisms and all the toxic waste that comes along with debate. Kazakh Yeli comes off as narcissistic at worst and patronising at best


Can’t think of anything this post could foreseeably do except flame.
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Postby El Lazaro » Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:50 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:She’s gay, Mr. Maupin, and this isn’t a great line regardless.

Another zinger from this guy, seemingly implying that my defence of Sordhau is because I want to date her.

Not sure how supposedly implying you’re a heterosexual male is flaming, but if you’re going to make a big deal about it, the joke is actually that you’re talking like Caleb Maupin and not that you’re misguidedly looking for dates on NSG.

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Postby Perikuresu » Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:04 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I’d like to add this report as well from same thread:

Perikuresu wrote:Sordhau been on multiple iterations of the Ukraine thread and on many other threads on NS, and especially threads with debates, and she has shown to be capable of taking criticisms and all the toxic waste that comes along with debate. Kazakh Yeli comes off as narcissistic at worst and patronising at best


Can’t think of anything this post could foreseeably do except flame.

I think you're being extremely disingenuous here, my comment was just telling Kazakh Yeli (whose original comment frames Sordhau as ungrateful to KY's 'help') that Sordhau can and has handled the "allegations of pro-Russian sentiment" quite well on her own.

If it was the 'toxic waste' thing that seems flamy, I was referring to toxic behaviour such as name calling, personal insults, trolling and mocking another's arguments that has happened in both the Ukraine and other NSG threads, if it was the 'narcissistic at worst and patronising at best' bit I was just giving my own opinions on how KY's comment came off to me personally, I wasn't calling KY narcissistic or patronising and I never had the intent to do so.
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Kazak Yeli
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Postby Kazak Yeli » Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:12 am

El Lazaro wrote:a big deal about it, the joke is actually that you’re talking like Caleb Maupin and not that you’re misguidedly looking for dates on NSG.

Maybe. Whatever the moderators say goes.

Perikuresu wrote:I wasn’t calling KY narcissistic or patronising and I never had the intent to do so.

You were personally attacking me.
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Esternial
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Postby Esternial » Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:03 am

The way I see it, you were all part of a multi-page threadjack disagreement about who was the most neutral party in the thread, which was inevitably personal from the onset.

So for me the options are to either give all of you a warning for going off on this tangent or not - I'm going with the former.

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Postby Picairn » Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:22 am

Understood, I'm sorry for eagerly feeding the threadjack.

But please, can you guys tell Kazak Yeli to knock it off with his bragging posts like "I'm the most neutral person in this thread", "I'm persecuted by people in this thread for disagreeing with their Ukrainian ultranationalist opinions", "Nobody in this thread has been subject to slander and insults more than I am"? It is obnoxious spam and derails the conversation.
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Albrenia wrote:With great power comes great mockability.

Proctopeo wrote:I'm completely right and you know it.

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Listen here Jack, we're going to destroy malarkey.
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Postby Esternial » Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:33 am

Picairn wrote:Understood, I'm sorry for eagerly feeding the threadjack.

But please, can you guys tell Kazak Yeli to knock it off with his bragging posts like "I'm the most neutral person in this thread", "I'm persecuted by people in this thread for disagreeing with their Ukrainian ultranationalist opinions", "Nobody in this thread has been subject to slander and insults more than I am"? It is obnoxious spam and derails the conversation.

Everyone should knock it off, hence my ruling.

If you see someone playing the victim, don't proceed to give them a reason to cement that opinion. Consider using the foe's list to just ignore each other going forward.


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