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Postby Providence Plantations and Rhode Island » Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:38 am

I found out today that of course you can commend a General Secretariat, but you cannot condemn them. They will mark it as illegal. Why is it that I can commend them, of which will never happen, but cannot condemn the overreaching they do? I encourage everyone to share your feelings.

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Postby Philimbesi » Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:57 am

Not a single one of the proposals you've submitted was legal. For reasons clearly stated by GenSec. You can't condemn a staff member for doing their job. Draft in the forums, receive feedback and make your proposals not suck or at least make them legal, and maybe you won't be as "persecuted" as you believe you are.

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Providence Plantations and Rhode Island
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Postby Providence Plantations and Rhode Island » Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:04 am

Philimbesi wrote:Not a single one of the proposals you've submitted was legal. For reasons clearly stated by GenSec. You can't condemn a staff member for doing their job. Draft in the forums, receive feedback and make your proposals not suck or at least make them legal, and maybe you won't be as "persecuted" as you believe you are.

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That isn't the point. I have supported many bills that have passed. I am simply saying that it's odd how you can commend GenSec but not condemn them. It doesn't have anything to do with their views.

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Postby Providence Plantations and Rhode Island » Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:07 am

Philimbesi wrote:Not a single one of the proposals you've submitted was legal. For reasons clearly stated by GenSec. You can't condemn a staff member for doing their job. Draft in the forums, receive feedback and make your proposals not suck or at least make them legal, and maybe you won't be as "persecuted" as you believe you are.

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I proposed a resolution to repeal Transgender Hormone Therapy and it was deemed legal. I withdrew it because one of my friends wrote his own that was also deemed legal.

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Postby PotatoFarmers » Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:10 am

Providence Plantations and Rhode Island wrote:
Philimbesi wrote:Not a single one of the proposals you've submitted was legal. For reasons clearly stated by GenSec. You can't condemn a staff member for doing their job. Draft in the forums, receive feedback and make your proposals not suck or at least make them legal, and maybe you won't be as "persecuted" as you believe you are.

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That isn't the point. I have supported many bills that have passed. I am simply saying that it's odd how you can commend GenSec but not condemn them. It doesn't have anything to do with their views.

I think you miss the point. You can commend or condemn a GenSec player, but for reasons other than the fact that they are a GenSec member.

Providence Plantations and Rhode Island wrote:I proposed a resolution to repeal Transgender Hormone Therapy and it was deemed legal. I withdrew it because one of my friends wrote his own that was also deemed legal.

Note that legal doesn't mean good, and proposals which are poor and didn't go through the drafting process often never make it to the floor.
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Postby Untecna » Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:13 am

If you read their rule citing, they explained that you can not condemn site staff for doing their jobs properly.

Wallenburg (or any other GenSec member) has not strayed from their job and has done it properly.

A good idea would be for you to read the rules before you continue any further.

Also, wrong forum.
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Postby Philimbesi » Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:14 am

Providence Plantations and Rhode Island wrote:
Philimbesi wrote:Not a single one of the proposals you've submitted was legal. For reasons clearly stated by GenSec. You can't condemn a staff member for doing their job. Draft in the forums, receive feedback and make your proposals not suck or at least make them legal, and maybe you won't be as "persecuted" as you believe you are.

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I proposed a resolution to repeal Transgender Hormone Therapy and it was deemed legal. I withdrew it because one of my friends wrote his own that was also deemed legal.


What were the reasons given for them being illegal?
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Postby Bananaistan » Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:37 am

Commendations and condemnations have nothing to do the General Assembly or GenSec, and GenSec have nothing to do with commendations and condemnations. You need the other place for that.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:17 am

Providence Plantations and Rhode Island wrote:
Philimbesi wrote:Not a single one of the proposals you've submitted was legal. For reasons clearly stated by GenSec. You can't condemn a staff member for doing their job. Draft in the forums, receive feedback and make your proposals not suck or at least make them legal, and maybe you won't be as "persecuted" as you believe you are.

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That isn't the point. I have supported many bills that have passed. I am simply saying that it's odd how you can commend GenSec but not condemn them. It doesn't have anything to do with their views.

You can condemn a member of GenSec. You cannot condemn them for their actions AS GENSEC. You need to find different reasons to condemn somebody.

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Postby Philimbesi » Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:43 am

Nigel lifts his head from the desk and looks around. Slowly realization dawns on him that he is in the wing of the WA he swore never to enter. With a shriek, he leaps out of his chair and runs from the room back to the relative safety of the General Assembly.

After a moment, he runs back into the room and picks up the bottle of Lagavulin he had in his haste left on the desk, then promptly exists again.
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