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Quebecshire
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Telegram Cooldown Accessibility

Postby Quebecshire » Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:08 pm

Hello!

As everyone is likely aware, there is a cooldown between how long you can send telegrams. This factors in a few things (as far as I know, please correct me if I'm wrong), such as the number of nations it is addressed to (the cooldown after a telegram to one nation is much shorter than a telegram to eight).

The big factor I want to talk about though, is nation age. Younger nations have much higher cooldowns, and this is something my region's recruiters have been asking about recently. I recruit for two regions here and there, The League and Concord. For the former, I recruit via Quebecshire, a nation nearly 6 years old with slower cooldowns, and for the latter I use Fort Concord, which experiences much higher cooldowns.

But to my point: Is there any way the cooldown times/rates could be documented and posted, alongside the corresponding nation age range for each cooldown time(s)? Really in any form would be a nice resource to have, be it a list/chart of numbers, a formula (if that would work to factor in the amount of nations a telegram is addressed to, etc), or whatever else.

Sorry if this reads as scatterbrained, I wrote this quickly and wanted to post it while I had the energy to! Looking forward to replies. :)
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Refuge Isle
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Postby Refuge Isle » Wed Oct 05, 2022 12:13 am

Quebecshire wrote:Hello!

As everyone is likely aware, there is a cooldown between how long you can send telegrams. This factors in a few things (as far as I know, please correct me if I'm wrong), such as the number of nations it is addressed to (the cooldown after a telegram to one nation is much shorter than a telegram to eight).

The big factor I want to talk about though, is nation age. Younger nations have much higher cooldowns, and this is something my region's recruiters have been asking about recently. I recruit for two regions here and there, The League and Concord. For the former, I recruit via Quebecshire, a nation nearly 6 years old with slower cooldowns, and for the latter I use Fort Concord, which experiences much higher cooldowns.

But to my point: Is there any way the cooldown times/rates could be documented and posted, alongside the corresponding nation age range for each cooldown time(s)? Really in any form would be a nice resource to have, be it a list/chart of numbers, a formula (if that would work to factor in the amount of nations a telegram is addressed to, etc), or whatever else.

Sorry if this reads as scatterbrained, I wrote this quickly and wanted to post it while I had the energy to! Looking forward to replies. :)

NationStates does not often release it's technical stats and mechanics, so I would be surprised if this became publicly posted anywhere, especially since there's nothing a player can really *do* about their nation's cooldowns except bitch about them to the staff posting the information, which isn't really helpful to anyone. Suffice to say, if you want to have lower cooldowns in your frontier region, move in an older nation and recruit from there.

If you are interested in the cooldown mechanics regardless: Based on the testing that I did when I was writing the timer command, newly founded nations start out at around 1 minute, 45 seconds to send a batch of eight telegrams. The cooldown then decreases at a linear rate to an absolute minimum of 40s after 18 months. This time is based on a nation's founding timestamp, and not the amount of time they have been alive. So you can revive a nation that is two years old with 28 days of population growth, and operate the telegram system at the most efficient rate.
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Klaus Devestatorie
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:35 am

Quebecshire wrote:Hello!

As everyone is likely aware, there is a cooldown between how long you can send telegrams. This factors in a few things (as far as I know, please correct me if I'm wrong), such as the number of nations it is addressed to (the cooldown after a telegram to one nation is much shorter than a telegram to eight).

The big factor I want to talk about though, is nation age. Younger nations have much higher cooldowns, and this is something my region's recruiters have been asking about recently. I recruit for two regions here and there, The League and Concord. For the former, I recruit via Quebecshire, a nation nearly 6 years old with slower cooldowns, and for the latter I use Fort Concord, which experiences much higher cooldowns.

But to my point: Is there any way the cooldown times/rates could be documented and posted, alongside the corresponding nation age range for each cooldown time(s)? Really in any form would be a nice resource to have, be it a list/chart of numbers, a formula (if that would work to factor in the amount of nations a telegram is addressed to, etc), or whatever else.

Sorry if this reads as scatterbrained, I wrote this quickly and wanted to post it while I had the energy to! Looking forward to replies. :)

Once upon a time we actually did have a pretty good hold on these numbers- but this was before the TG system rebuild and stamps, when all recruitment was manual, and all telegrams were only addressed to one nation. If it's not publically available anymore, you'd probably need to rebuild it from scratch.

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Tinhampton
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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:20 pm

I thought the cooldown was one telegram per nation per... ten seconds? No matter how old your nation is. I feel like simplifying cooldown times as well as transparency would be good, although that's just me :P
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Comfed
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Postby Comfed » Wed Oct 05, 2022 2:58 pm

Tinhampton wrote:I thought the cooldown was one telegram per nation per... ten seconds? No matter how old your nation is. I feel like simplifying cooldown times as well as transparency would be good, although that's just me :P

It definitely decreases with nation age, an effect which can be experienced by anyone who tries to recruit with nations of differing age.

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Refuge Isle
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Postby Refuge Isle » Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:00 pm

I assure you the mechanics work in the way that I've said.

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Klaus Devestatorie
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:13 pm

Refuge Isle's numbers would line up with what I remember- it was about 15 seconds a telegram when sending one individually, eventually reducing to about 5 seconds once your nation was old enough.


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