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by ImperialRussia » Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:24 am
by Southern Liberstania » Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:27 am
Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:In regards to online discourse and radicalization: how many of you fallen down the alt right pipeline?
- How have you gotten out of it?
- Have you know anyone that has gone further?
- Is there an end?
by Mountains and Volcanoes » Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:46 am
by Transsibiria » Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:09 pm
Southern Liberstania wrote:I was a Conservative, radicalized into Fascism. I never became a "holocaust denial" or "sieg heil" type of guy, but I was rather more in the Mussolini camp, just more theocratic. The reason I was a Fascist was because, in my eyes, I thought that it was the perfect solution to "ending degeneracy" and enforcing morality.
Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:Thoughts on this Occult Cryptographic NFT Fascists?
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by Alcala-Cordel » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:02 pm
Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:Thoughts on this Occult Cryptographic NFT Fascists?
by Old Seeland » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:10 pm
Transsibiria wrote:Southern Liberstania wrote:I was a Conservative, radicalized into Fascism. I never became a "holocaust denial" or "sieg heil" type of guy, but I was rather more in the Mussolini camp, just more theocratic. The reason I was a Fascist was because, in my eyes, I thought that it was the perfect solution to "ending degeneracy" and enforcing morality.
The obsession of fascists with "degeneracy" never ceases to intrigue me.Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:Thoughts on this Occult Cryptographic NFT Fascists?
I know this video since a while and have shown it to many people back then.
Nobody believed it. I could not stop chuckling how they fooled everyone. But it's more likely than you think.
by Southern Liberstania » Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:23 am
Transsibiria wrote:Southern Liberstania wrote:I was a Conservative, radicalized into Fascism. I never became a "holocaust denial" or "sieg heil" type of guy, but I was rather more in the Mussolini camp, just more theocratic. The reason I was a Fascist was because, in my eyes, I thought that it was the perfect solution to "ending degeneracy" and enforcing morality.
The obsession of fascists with "degeneracy" never ceases to intrigue me.Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:Thoughts on this Occult Cryptographic NFT Fascists?
I know this video since a while and have shown it to many people back then.
Nobody believed it. I could not stop chuckling how they fooled everyone. But it's more likely than you think.
by Old Seeland » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:12 pm
Southern Liberstania wrote:Transsibiria wrote:
The obsession of fascists with "degeneracy" never ceases to intrigue me.
I know this video since a while and have shown it to many people back then.
Nobody believed it. I could not stop chuckling how they fooled everyone. But it's more likely than you think.
It is because Fascism appeals to people with traditional values more often than not, for example me, being a Conservative at the time. Now I do still have traditional values and morals, but I keep those separated from my politics
Fascism appeals to people who think all evil in the world is caused by "degenerates", that could be anyone from gay or transgender people, to Jews or non-white people depending on who you ask. So Fascism basically says "You don't like em, we'll just get rid of em!" and they just eat it right up.
by Detestable Tory » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:47 pm
by Bovad » Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:42 pm
Detestable Tory wrote:Is it bad that with how extreme both sides have gotten I consider myself, a racist, transphobic, syndicalist to be a moderate in America?
by Southern Liberstania » Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:44 am
Old Seeland wrote:Southern Liberstania wrote:It is because Fascism appeals to people with traditional values more often than not, for example me, being a Conservative at the time. Now I do still have traditional values and morals, but I keep those separated from my politics
Fascism appeals to people who think all evil in the world is caused by "degenerates", that could be anyone from gay or transgender people, to Jews or non-white people depending on who you ask. So Fascism basically says "You don't like em, we'll just get rid of em!" and they just eat it right up.
I agree with that point of view. But lest we forget, not only did Fascists try to appeal to traditional values like that (although they did it in "style" so to say, that's why they are the ones easily remembered), others tried it too. I am not trying to say your point is invalid, but merely hoping that others can also understand that at any given time it is possible that others use it against their political rivals too. Plenty of politicians, even American, have used "degenerate art" to appeal to the masses. And sadly, it worked more than we all would like to believe.
by Bewaffnete Krafte » Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:11 am
Detestable Tory wrote:Is it bad that with how extreme both sides have gotten I consider myself, a racist, transphobic, syndicalist to be a moderate in America?
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by Kalivyah » Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:13 am
Detestable Tory wrote:Is it bad that with how extreme both sides have gotten I consider myself, a racist, transphobic, syndicalist to be a moderate in America?
by The Zumal Gang » Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:22 am
Salus Maior wrote:The New Rio Grande wrote:Why yes there is an end.
It’s when you Realize that the “Alt-right extremists” and their “Brainwashed pipeline followers” aren’t going to do anything. They’re just gonna sit around in their little discord ‘safe spaces’ whilst those who live up on the “Moral Highground” continue to talk about them as if they’re gonna take over the world.
Until they commit shootings like the Christchurch and Buffalo guys.
by Southern Liberstania » Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:15 pm
Detestable Tory wrote:Is it bad that with how extreme both sides have gotten I consider myself, a racist, transphobic, syndicalist to be a moderate in America?
by Mountains and Volcanoes » Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:48 pm
More akin to fascism... (see: national syndicalism and palingentic ultranationalism) or Third Positionist.
by Australian rePublic » Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:55 pm
Wynnemac wrote:Australian rePublic wrote:So I got sucked into the far right when they started posting anti-SJW content. I never actually realised how far right nor how radical they actually were. That's how they get you. It wasn't til I started seeing people debunk the far-right extremists
How exactly did people debunk them?
by Mattopilos III » Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:01 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:Wynnemac wrote:How exactly did people debunk them?
By talking about how idiotic their opinions they are. Let me put it this way
SJWs: Eminem wearing a sombrero=racist
Far right: Eminem wearing a sombrero=/=racist
As long as the moderate left don't talk about how Eminem wearing a sombrero=/=racist, then all the left will get lumped in together. I've already explained this
by Diaboland » Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:59 am
by Uiiop » Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:14 am
Diaboland wrote:Jeez, I thought this thread would just be everyone (rightfully) dunking on right-wing radicals. I don't believe that every person should have the same political beliefs, but I would have hoped we had moved on from "bigotry is a valid political ideology" by now
by Khurkhogur » Sun Oct 16, 2022 12:37 pm
Diaboland wrote:Jeez, I thought this thread would just be everyone (rightfully) dunking on right-wing radicals. I don't believe that every person should have the same political beliefs, but I would have hoped we had moved on from "bigotry is a valid political ideology" by now
by Sordhau » Sun Oct 16, 2022 12:42 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:Wynnemac wrote:How exactly did people debunk them?
By talking about how idiotic their opinions they are. Let me put it this way
SJWs: Eminem wearing a sombrero=racist
Far right: Eminem wearing a sombrero=/=racist
As long as the moderate left don't talk about how Eminem wearing a sombrero=/=racist, then all the left will get lumped in together. I've already explained this
by Necroghastia » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:00 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:Wynnemac wrote:How exactly did people debunk them?
By talking about how idiotic their opinions they are. Let me put it this way
SJWs: Eminem wearing a sombrero=racist
Far right: Eminem wearing a sombrero=/=racist
As long as the moderate left don't talk about how Eminem wearing a sombrero=/=racist, then all the left will get lumped in together. I've already explained this
by Mountains and Volcanoes » Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:01 pm
by Australian rePublic » Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:05 am
Necroghastia wrote:Australian rePublic wrote:By talking about how idiotic their opinions they are. Let me put it this way
SJWs: Eminem wearing a sombrero=racist
Far right: Eminem wearing a sombrero=/=racist
As long as the moderate left don't talk about how Eminem wearing a sombrero=/=racist, then all the left will get lumped in together. I've already explained this
I don't remember the last time I heard anyone talk about Eminem, let alone his choice of hat.
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