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[DRAFT] Underage Voting

Postby Socialist Ancomistan » Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:39 pm

I know the voting age issue has been done before
https://nsindex.net/wiki/NationStates_Issue_No._182
but I believe I could make this one different from the other one, as my issue proposal involves high political participation instead of low participation. I also may need help with a more creative title.

[Validity] Political Apathy (“Whatever”) must be below 50, nations must also have elections ofc

[Issue] In response to increasing political knowledge among citizenry in @Nation Name@, politicians have came together to a debate over whether or not lowering the voting age will help provide a better outlook on what @Nation Name’s@ citizens want.

1.
“Lowering the voting age to 13 would be perfect” states populist candidate @Random Name@. “The truth is that young people are smarter than we give them credit for, and will also be around to witness future issues like climate change and artificial intelligence that you and I can’t, @Leader@. Plus my support among the 25 and under crowd is over 70% and I could really use those extra votes.”

[Effect] Politicians win bipartisan support from the under 18 crowd by promising to close schools on Fridays


2. Nation is capitalist
“A politically active populace is perfect for our country, but lowering the voting age is simply not the answer” replies conservative candidate @Random Name@ “Let’s face it, teenagers are prone to impulsive behaviour. With enough support, they could elect a far left communist just because of a single speech that went viral on social media.” He then proceeds to look at a survey showing record high support from older voters.

2. Nation is socialist
“A politically active populace is perfect for our country, but lowering the voting age is simply not the answer” replies conservative candidate @Random Name@. “Let’s face it, teenagers are prone to impulsive behavior. With enough support, they could elect a far right, laissez-faire capitalist just because of a single speech that went viral on social media.” He then proceeds to look at a survey showing record high support from older voters

[Effect] Voters are regularly inspected by the police for “looking underage.”


3.
“Perhaps I can come to an agreement with my fellow @Demonym@ on this issue” states rising star politician @Random Name@, who is famous for her vocal but shallow speeches. “We should simply allow teenagers to vote, but only give them half of a vote until they turn 18. Voila! Problem solved. There’s no way anything could go wrong here? Anyone?”

[Effect] @NATIONNAME’S@ voting laws share an uncanny resemblance to the Three Fifths Compromise


4.
“I have an even better idea,” you hear your brother scoff in the audience. “We should have a MAXIMUM voting age instead. Every polling place I have visited has been full of these stuffy old fuddyduds. And who knows what policies they are voting for? Like banning interracial marriage, mandating church attendance, or even provide a tax break! I truly struggle to think. We should make it illegal for anyone over the age of 65 to vote.”

[Effect] Retirees often reminisce about the good old days when they were allowed to take part in the political process
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Sep 10, 2022 12:10 am

I don't see how you made it distinct from the current issue about underage voting. What's the difference about how this is supposed to gear towards high political participation? Wouldn't lowering the voting age still lead to the same ends?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:23 am

How much do you wanna lower it by?
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Postby Socialist Ancomistan » Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:28 pm

/bump

Outer Sparta: My idea is that with high enough political participation, there would be strong enough opinions on underage voting rights (on both sides of the issue) to stir a political debate for and against the change. Ultimately the idea is whether or not lowering the voting age would result in government appointees that best represent what it’s citizens want

Also Options 3 and 4 were not in the older issue

Australian Republic: I’d probably lower the voting age to 13. Notice how I kept mentioning “teenagers” and not young children voting.
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Postby Panagouge » Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:06 am

Each and every option feels overbearingly long to read. You'll want to consider using fewer words. Also, mentioning the 3/5 Compromised directl, as an url reference, might not be considered the best. I suggest, say, the 5/8 Compromise or similar to cover your tracks.
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Postby Socialist Ancomistan » Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:27 pm

Panagouge wrote:Each and every option feels overbearingly long to read. You'll want to consider using fewer words. Also, mentioning the 3/5 Compromised directl, as an url reference, might not be considered the best. I suggest, say, the 5/8 Compromise or similar to cover your tracks.



Edited each response to be shorter. Still can’t find a historical alternative to the Three Fifths Compromise that is more P.C (the 5/8ths compromise, as far as I’m aware, does not exist)
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Postby Socialist Ancomistan » Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:55 pm

/bump. Unless I get a definite “This issue is good to go,” I need more feedback
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Postby Candensia » Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:39 am

I have to agree with Outer Sparta, OP. Even though this issue is triggered as a result of high political involvement, rather than political apathy, it probably is still too similar to #182.
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Postby Socialist Ancomistan » Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:08 pm

Where can I find ideas for new issues? This forum is right; we ARE running out of topics to do issues on in NS.
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Postby Watedorpley » Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:37 am

Lowering the voting age would make everything worse. Half the time the people old enough to vote don't know what is going on and justvote based on others opinions. Lowering that would be terrible. Kids need to be kid.

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Postby Juansonia » Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:56 pm

Watedorpley wrote:Lowering the voting age would make everything worse. Half the time the people old enough to vote don't know what is going on and justvote based on others opinions. Lowering that would be terrible. Kids need to be kid.

This is the issue drafting forum, not NS General.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:58 pm

Socialist Ancomistan wrote:Where can I find ideas for new issues? This forum is right; we ARE running out of topics to do issues on in NS.

There's nothing stopping you from doing an issue on a similar premise if you can find a unique angle. This one still bears too many similarities to the aforementioned issue on the voting age.
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