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Should African-Americans vote Republican?

Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:12 pm

We all know that African-Americans are an overwhelmingly Democratic constituency. Not voting for the Democrats is even seen as something strange within the community: many would have agreed with Joe Biden’s statement regarding the blackness of undecided voters.

But is this a good thing? Should this be the case? After all, Republicans freed the slaves while the Democrats opposed doing so. Of course, there is an argument that the parties have changed. Switched, even. Many, however, including prominent conservative Candace Owens, would disagree with this, and point out that the Democrats have always been liberals. Racist liberals, but liberals all the same.

Should African-Americans follow her example and that of the grassroots ‘Blexit’ movement to vote for the Republicans instead? Personally, I think the Democrats have taken the black vote for granted, as evidenced by. But it is not my place to comment on how Americans should or should not vote: I am, after all, not an American.
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Postby Le Enclave Reformas » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:14 pm

until the republicans calm down and accept LGBTQ+ people and Athiests, i dont think they should.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:23 pm

Le Enclave Reformas wrote:until the republicans calm down and accept LGBTQ+ people and Athiests, i dont think they should.


It will never happen without massive change. The problem for the republicans is they chased desperate groups in order to get numbers and ended up created a Frankenstein they really can’t control anymore.

You see that with the rise of trump and the scramble to hide anti-abortion stances.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:24 pm

People can vote for whoever they want, they're voting adults the same as anyone else.
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Postby Cacos de Ayiti » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:26 pm

Think they should not partake in a 2 party system where neither parties actually look out for their interest.

Why do people always lump up LGBTQ & other groups with African Americans.. ? Stupid
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Postby Existential Cats » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:27 pm

If Republicans want to win the African-American vote, they should advocate for policies that actually benefit black Americans and quit with all the race-baiting. Democrats indeed take black voters for granted, but the Republicans only offer something worse.
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Postby Federal Reclamation Initiative » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:28 pm

African-Americans left the party in droves once Barry Goldwater was nominated as the GOP's Nominee in 1964, here's a good article from 2014 about it;

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch ... -the-1960s
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Postby El Lazaro » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:37 pm

Azzat wrote:VOTING IS AN EVIL AND NO MAN SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE FOULNESS OF DEMOCRACY

Wrong forum?

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:39 pm

No, African-Americans should not vote Republican. Nobody should vote Republican unless you have a RINO on the ballot for a local or state-level office.

Existential Cats wrote:If Republicans want to win the African-American vote, they should advocate for policies that actually benefit black Americans and quit with all the race-baiting. Democrats indeed take black voters for granted, but the Republicans only offer something worse.


^Also this.
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:41 pm

if anything, black people (and oppressed people in general) should arm themselves and organize
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Postby Cacos de Ayiti » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:44 pm

Hispida wrote:if anything, black people (and oppressed people in general) should arm themselves and organize

They did. Black Panthers was a militant community that advocated for black rights and quality of life. They were deemed terrorist by the government (who at the time considered African-Americans a national threat) and hunted down to be assassinated or imprisoned.

This is discussing if the African American demographic have a political party they should support.
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Postby Federal Reclamation Initiative » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:44 pm

Hispida wrote:if anything, black people (and oppressed people in general) should arm themselves and organize


With how confident the far-right is getting, I support this.
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Postby Federal Reclamation Initiative » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:45 pm

Cacos de Ayiti wrote:
Hispida wrote:if anything, black people (and oppressed people in general) should arm themselves and organize

They did. Black Panthers was a militant community that advocated for black rights and quality of life. They were deemed terrorist by the government (who at the time considered African-Americans a national threat) and hunted down to be assassinated or imprisoned.


Ironically Ronald Reagan went after them and took their guns away as Governor of California.
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Postby Nipponkyo » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:45 pm

From my understanding of American history, the Republican Party has always been the most friendly to black people. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and I think so was Martin Luther King jr. Meanwhile, George Wallace and Fred Phelps were both Democrats.

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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:47 pm

Cacos de Ayiti wrote:
Hispida wrote:if anything, black people (and oppressed people in general) should arm themselves and organize

They did. Black Panthers was a militant community that advocated for black rights and quality of life. They were deemed terrorist by the government (who at the time considered African-Americans a national threat) and hunted down to be assassinated or imprisoned.

This is discussing if the African American demographic have a political party they should support.

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Postby Cacos de Ayiti » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:47 pm

Nipponkyo wrote:From my understanding of American history, the Republican Party has always been the most friendly to black people. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and I think so was Martin Luther King jr. Meanwhile, George Wallace and Fred Phelps were both Democrats.


MLK stated he's not a democrat or a Republicans. If anything he was more of a socialist. in his word he said he is of the party of God.(Afterall he was a reverend/preacher)

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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:48 pm

Nipponkyo wrote:From my understanding of American history, the Republican Party has always been the most friendly to black people. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and I think so was Martin Luther King jr. Meanwhile, George Wallace and Fred Phelps were both Democrats.

mlk was more of a utopian christian socialist than anything
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:49 pm

Nipponkyo wrote:From my understanding of American history, the Republican Party has always been the most friendly to black people. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and I think so was Martin Luther King jr. Meanwhile, George Wallace and Fred Phelps were both Democrats.


Your understanding of American history appears to end sometime around the 1960s.

The Republicans changed tactics to help them flip Southern states, and they got way more racist.
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Postby Federal Reclamation Initiative » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:51 pm

Nipponkyo wrote:From my understanding of American history, the Republican Party has always been the most friendly to black people. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and I think so was Martin Luther King jr. Meanwhile, George Wallace and Fred Phelps were both Democrats.


You're understanding of American Political history is a bit outdated. For a time the Republicans were the most friendly party to African-Americans, but that changed in the 1960s due to the Republican Southern Strategy and the refusal of Republicans to back the Civil Rights Act signed into law by President Johnson in 1964 (that move brought lots of African-Americans over to the Democrats). Also, Martin Luther King Jr never endorsed any Presidential campaign and remained largely neutral in national politics unless it was related to campaigning for adoption of Civil Rights. Going further from this, King admitted in his autobiography that he'd voted for Kennedy in 1960 and in a private letter since now revealed to the public, King told a Civil Rights supporter that he'd always voted Democrat for most of his life.
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:55 pm

I don't think a certain race should vote a party just because of their race. However, another vote to Republican is sure nice
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Postby Lile Ulie Islands » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:58 pm

We can’t force people to vote one way due to their identity. The right to vote is essential, one of the many things Republicans have tried to strip away from us. One should vote for who they want to vote.
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Postby Orientis Roma » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:59 pm

They should vote however they want to.

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Postby Katganistan » Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:01 pm

Nipponkyo wrote:From my understanding of American history, the Republican Party has always been the most friendly to black people. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and I think so was Martin Luther King jr. Meanwhile, George Wallace and Fred Phelps were both Democrats.

Parties change. The Republican party today thinks that Neo-nazis marching in in Charlotte were "good people".

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Postby Free Algerstonia » Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:27 pm

Azzat wrote:VOTING IS AN EVIL AND NO MAN SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE FOULNESS OF DEMOCRACY

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