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Based Illinois
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1 weird trick to fix america ( congress hates it )!

Postby Based Illinois » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:10 am

I'm sure that all of you losers have written up a manifesto at some point about how if you were made the supreme leader of the United States you would lead us all into utopia, but take a step back for a moment. If you could only make one change to do as much good as possible in improving the United States, what would it be?

Me: I would dispense with the idea of universal sufferage in exchange for an elite meritocratic enfranchisement ( The Star Ship Trooper option )

I would want the right to run for office and to vote to be a privelege one must earn through selfless dedicated service to the commonwealth: being a soldier for so many years, a teacher, an EMS responder, somebody whose done a bunch of community serivce, adopting children. Pretty much, if you want the right to wield legal political power, you'd have to first prove your dedication to the collective well being through a lot of labor which won't make you rich.

Wby?
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Le Enclave Reformas
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Postby Le Enclave Reformas » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:13 am

delete electoral cooleg, make election based on popular vote

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Emotional Support Crocodile
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:16 am

Should anyone who cannot spell weird, really be allowed to vote?

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Based Illinois
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Postby Based Illinois » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:17 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:Should anyone who cannot spell weird, really be allowed to vote?


Thatz waht im' say'n!

Edit: bro, are you attacking me for my dyslexia right now? Sounds kinda ableist of you...
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Based Illinois
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Postby Based Illinois » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:17 am

Le Enclave Reformas wrote:delete electoral cooleg, make election based on popular vote


Heh, we have like the opposite idea

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Postby South Pacifican Kilendjj » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:17 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:Should anyone who cannot spell weird, really be allowed to vote?

That's what I was about to say-
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Based Illinois
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Postby Based Illinois » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:18 am

South Pacifican Kilendjj wrote:
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:Should anyone who cannot spell weird, really be allowed to vote?

That's what I was about to say-


Ableist all of of you...

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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:21 am

Could journalists possibly be able to run? Providing the public with vital information and occasionally risking their own safety to do so I think is worthy.

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Postby Rusozak » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:23 am

Service guarantees citizenship! Would you like to know more?
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Based Illinois
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Postby Based Illinois » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:27 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:Could journalists possibly be able to run? Providing the public with vital information and occasionally risking their own safety to do so I think is worthy.


I would say no.

I get what you're going for, in that journalists provide a much needed service by keeping the public up to date on current events. It definetly is a vital service. With the advent of modern journalism and it's proclivity towards sensationalism and profit from panic and or outrage, however, the modern take on the profession seems a far cry from the selfless and unbiased ideals professed from men like Walter Cronkite.

Until the entire journalist industry did some serious soul searching and reformed the profit and fame motive out of their professional pictures, I would say no.
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Myrensis
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Postby Myrensis » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:28 am

Giant asteroid impact.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:30 am

Based Illinois wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:Could journalists possibly be able to run? Providing the public with vital information and occasionally risking their own safety to do so I think is worthy.


I would say no.

I get what you're going for, in that journalists provide a much needed service by keeping the public up to date on current events. It definetly is a vital service. With the advent of modern journalism and it's proclivity towards sensationalism and profit from panic and or outrage, however, the modern take on the profession seems a far cry from the selfless and unbiased ideals professed from men like Walter Cronkite.

Until the entire journalist industry did some serious soul searching and reformed the profit and fame motive out of their professional pictures, I would say no.


They really should tbh.

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Postby North Korea Choson » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:32 am

Le Enclave Reformas wrote:delete electoral cooleg, make election based on popular vote

Same.

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Based Illinois
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Postby Based Illinois » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:33 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:
I would say no.

I get what you're going for, in that journalists provide a much needed service by keeping the public up to date on current events. It definetly is a vital service. With the advent of modern journalism and it's proclivity towards sensationalism and profit from panic and or outrage, however, the modern take on the profession seems a far cry from the selfless and unbiased ideals professed from men like Walter Cronkite.

Until the entire journalist industry did some serious soul searching and reformed the profit and fame motive out of their professional pictures, I would say no.


They really should tbh.


Idk man, I would want voting to be the culmination of selfless works and dedication - but a lot of contemporary journalism seems completely self serving, or intentionally devised so as to sew division.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:42 am

Based Illinois wrote:I'm sure that all of you losers have written up a manifesto at some point about how if you were made the supreme leader of the United States you would lead us all into utopia, but take a step back for a moment. If you could only make one change to do as much good as possible in improving the United States, what would it be?

Me: I would dispense with the idea of universal sufferage in exchange for an elite meritocratic enfranchisement ( The Star Ship Trooper option )

I would want the right to run for office and to vote to be a privelege one must earn through selfless dedicated service to the commonwealth: being a soldier for so many years, a teacher, an EMS responder, somebody whose done a bunch of community serivce, adopting children. Pretty much, if you want the right to wield legal political power, you'd have to first prove your dedication to the collective well being through a lot of labor which won't make you rich.

Wby?

People really watched a movie about a fascist society and said "Wow, cool!"
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Postby Vavlar » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:42 am

Coup it.

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Based Illinois
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Postby Based Illinois » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:46 am

Ifreann wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:I'm sure that all of you losers have written up a manifesto at some point about how if you were made the supreme leader of the United States you would lead us all into utopia, but take a step back for a moment. If you could only make one change to do as much good as possible in improving the United States, what would it be?

Me: I would dispense with the idea of universal sufferage in exchange for an elite meritocratic enfranchisement ( The Star Ship Trooper option )

I would want the right to run for office and to vote to be a privelege one must earn through selfless dedicated service to the commonwealth: being a soldier for so many years, a teacher, an EMS responder, somebody whose done a bunch of community serivce, adopting children. Pretty much, if you want the right to wield legal political power, you'd have to first prove your dedication to the collective well being through a lot of labor which won't make you rich.

Wby?

People really watched a movie about a fascist society and said "Wow, cool!"


What are you, a bug lover?

I did dig the movie, but i'm more on board with Heinlein's original book idea. I don't think the terran federation could have been considered fascist, though it definetly was both statist and collectivist.

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Emotional Support Crocodile
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:52 am

I'd like to know less about this idea.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:56 am

Based Illinois wrote:
Ifreann wrote:People really watched a movie about a fascist society and said "Wow, cool!"


What are you, a bug lover?

Bugs are, in fact, cool.

I did dig the movie, but i'm more on board with Heinlein's original book idea. I don't think the terran federation could have been considered fascist, though it definetly was both statist and collectivist.

Heinlein wrote cringe and was correctly mocked in the movie.
Mistake Not My Current State Of Regular Thorough Handwashing For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Mask Wearing That Are Themselves The Mere Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Social Distancing

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Postby Incel Argentina » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:57 am

Just give all of the mainland to Mexico.
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Postby Based Illinois » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:59 am

Ifreann wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:
What are you, a bug lover?

Bugs are, in fact, cool.

I did dig the movie, but i'm more on board with Heinlein's original book idea. I don't think the terran federation could have been considered fascist, though it definetly was both statist and collectivist.

Heinlein wrote cringe and was correctly mocked in the movie.


It is too early in the morning for you to be such a tasteless charlatan.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:03 am

Based Illinois wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Bugs are, in fact, cool.


Heinlein wrote cringe and was correctly mocked in the movie.


It is too early in the morning for you to be such a tasteless charlatan.

It's 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
Mistake Not My Current State Of Regular Thorough Handwashing For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Mask Wearing That Are Themselves The Mere Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Social Distancing

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Postby Based Illinois » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:09 am

Ifreann wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:
It is too early in the morning for you to be such a tasteless charlatan.

It's 4 o'clock in the afternoon.


Not in burgerland it's not

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Postby Oskenia » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:14 am

Eradicate lobbying. That would at least assist the populace in promoting more law and legislation that truly benefits all, not just the 1%.
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Postby Oskenia » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:15 am

Based Illinois wrote:I would want the right to run for office and to vote to be a privelege one must earn through selfless dedicated service to the commonwealth: being a soldier for so many years, a teacher, an EMS responder, somebody whose done a bunch of community serivce, adopting children. Pretty much, if you want the right to wield legal political power, you'd have to first prove your dedication to the collective well being through a lot of labor which won't make you rich.

I'm an EMS provider and believe me you don't want any of the people I work with running for office. :roll:
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Emergency Medical Technician.
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ARMED MINORITIES ARE HARDER
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